British police arrive in Thailand to observe Koh Tao murder probe

[Dogmatix]

What are the allegations of corruption in the KT murder investigation that the FCO has expressed concern about? Was it the allegation of the B700k allegedly offered to the taxi driver to implicate the footballers in the murders, after he was also allegedly beaten up, or is the allegation on Thai social media that B120m has been paid or offered to cover up the case?

I would not believe the latter story. If there really was a cover up reaching to the top levels, how could they share out only US$4m between all of them? That wouldn't even buy one decent sized mansion.

Edited October 26, 2014 by Dogmatix

[JacknDanny]

A question that jdinasia will NOT answer..........................

Why do you think the UK has sent the cream of the UK police force to investigate the murder of Hannah and Dave ....?

Politics

What do you mean?

[Johnsen]

According to JD they don't have to disclose how they were cleared. They were cleared with 120 million baht. Of course phone records could have been a lot cheaper. Kinda makes you wonder huh..

[DennisF]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

[jdinasia]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

Alibis? Who? Where?

You talking about CCTV that can be proven to have been altered, or a cousin who said she was in Bangkok with suspect and was subsequently found to be in Pattaya with her BF?

Ah... Back to the conspiracy theory regarding the CCTV. School records etc but feel free to keep citing unreliable sources and calling it fact.

[Johnsen]

Steady transam that's exactly what he wants you to say. Just tell him there is not enough disclosed evidence to charge the boys with murder. He hates that one...

[bertty]

I have joined the growing list of people who have now blocked the bores that are called John.

Life seems so much better already.

[AGareth2]

politics?

you having a laugh?

[DarloKnight]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at.

[Johnsen]

Yes a Photo shopped photo of CCTV video. A still of video. Can't release any real video just a photo only a person with a child brain could believe. Strange how his girlfriend couldn't find him at his apartment. 120 million baht people, that's what it has cost to keep him out of jail.

[binjalin]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Source?

Why was one of the 'big bosses' allowed onto the crime scene? You seem to be 'knowledgable. Explain please?

I have no idea.

now there's something we can ALL agree on

[JacknDanny]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

Alibis? Who? Where?

You talking about CCTV that can be proven to have been altered, or a cousin who said she was in Bangkok with suspect and was subsequently found to be in Pattaya with her BF?

Ah... Back to the conspiracy theory regarding the CCTV. School records etc but feel free to keep citing unreliable sources and calling it fact.

The unreliable sources?

Your sources are what the RTP come out with!!!! Are they reliable???? Behave!!

By the way, CSI LA whom you seem to think are attention seeking morons, have just found a missing girl, took them with the help of social media a total of 5 hours. RTP had the case for 1 month and could not find her!!!

Call CSI LA, all you want but there is a lot of stuff they are saying which makes a lot more sense than your posts

[jdinasia]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that.

You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected.

[transam]

Steady transam that's exactly what he wants you to say. Just tell him there is not enough disclosed evidence to charge the boys with murder. He hates that one...

Yeh I know, just pisses me off when we all want the truth and this guy wants to hang anyone so he and his KT chums are still cool with you know who...........

Sure a warning for me soon but it would be worth it, just for the kids peace......

[JacknDanny]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that.

You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected.

What mistakes? Examples please

[jdinasia]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at.

No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal.

[Johnsen]

How can you say not checking phone records would not strengthen the case either way. Of course it would. You know what, they wouldn't even have to disclose it. Again non sensical.

Edited October 26, 2014 by Johnsen

[JacknDanny]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at.

No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal.

Why is it illegal?

Define probable cause as defined by Thai Law? Act and Section please

[Elmer Gantry]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

Totally agree with your post,the problem in kintergarten is that as soon as you mention the M word you are put in the naughty corner.It takes balls to be a man.something lacking here abouts!!!!!!!

[AGareth2]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

I was never a moderator. I have no idea why you keep saying that.

You left out various other possibilities. Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected.

Such as some mistakes were made and then corrected

heard that before

that is the point

[Johnsen]

JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.

[jdinasia]

Does anyone know if the phone records have been investigated ? I know in other countries this is looked into along with bank transactions. I do not know how the Thai police operate so I would be interested to know if this happens in Thailand.

There must be probable cause to do either.

Do you think they have done it in this case?

Highly unlikely. Who would they be looking at? The people that the conspiracy theorists want to blame have been ruled out as suspects due to having alibis

But would it not strengthen the case against the accused if they had looked at theirs? I'm at such a loss with all this I really do not understand why obvious things to me are not looked at.

No it would not strengthen the case. Plus lacking probable cause it is illegal.

Why is it illegal?

Define probable cause as defined by Thai Law? Act and Section please

You are welcome to query a lawyer.

[jdinasia]

JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.

Straw man

[phuketandsee]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

Why do I have to choose? I go for both

Edited October 26, 2014 by phuketandsee

[Johnsen]

Why are you resorting to name calling again JD.

[DennisF]

I dont get you all replying and biting the hooks that the SAD MAN baits his hook with.

He is loving all this attention and will always take the opposing view.

It is not a shock he was kicked off the moderators panel.

So this investigation boils down to 2 things only and you have to hang your ht on one of only 2 possible pegs:

Peg 1. This investigation has been conducted by the most inefficient, stupid, banal, brain dead set of moronic

idiots it would be possible to gather together, none of which could challenge a 5 year old in terms of protecting a crime scene or gathering evidence.

OR

Peg 2. This is a complete coverup coupled with corruption to protect the guilty.

No other scenarios possible given the public disclosures, press statements and media pressure.

Take your pick, up to you.

Why do I have to choose? I go for both

Peg 3. Both of the above :-)

[harrry]

New Scotland Yard loose face big time.

Only allowed to observed, not allowed anything else. Just like any British tourist in Thailand.

You may be surprised. Observing is what proper police do. They do it well too, they may observe someone drop a cigarette butt and being responsible people regarding the environment pick it up. Strange it then goes quietly with a proper custody chain to a proper lab.

They may observe that people mysteriously do not want to talk and others want to talk too much. All grist for the mill.

Then they will put it all together and I think the results will be quietly sent to the Thai government with a polite reminder that these facts could be bought out in an inquest in the UK and such adverse publicity may not occur if the correct thing is done.

[BuddhistVirus]

JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.

Straw man

I think you're tired or something...go take a nap.

[jdinasia]

JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.

Straw man

I think you're tired or something...go take a nap.

not tired. Just finished with a guy that cannot comprehend discovery

[transam]

JDINASIA's sources are things that don't have to be disclosed to the public. That's all he has because he knows there is not enough evidence to send the boys to trial for murder on the disclosed evidence.

Straw man

I think you're tired or something...go take a nap.

not tired. Just finished with a guy that cannot comprehend discovery

OH, you been for a massage................