DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[SteveFong]

Yes, even though the defenders of the Thai investigation (and suppression of Brit involvement) are often a pain-in-the-you-know-what, it's useful to hear some of what they opine, (except perhaps IL, who keeps going with his baby-talk banter).

It relates to the early stage of the investigation, with the original police head, when thing were going reasonably sensibly: i.e. Mon and Nomsod were still the prime suspects, and evidence was was continuing to point at them. Then all of a sudden, a new head cop was appointed by Bkk, and the headline which followed said (in effect), "Investigators are now looking at visiting football players and Burmese suspects." At that same moment, Mon and Nomsod were mysteriously no longer suspects.

What I'm trying to convey here, is that it's useful sometimes, to hear what officialdom is thinking/planning. Officialdom doesn't always announce their thoughts, so JD and some others are a window to that.

On social media, there is a photo of one of a visiting football player (or is it an AC bouncer?) - which shows him partying within inches of Hannah on that fateful night. Another recent photo of him (or the bouncer) shows the same man wearing a sharks-tooth ring, which is the sort of weapon which could inflict the injuries shown on David. The Thai is a big hefty fellow, and could more plausibly overpower a tall man like David. Much more likely than the pint-sized Burmese.

It's telling that Thai officialdom cares not a whit for the scenario in the boisterous bar - prior to the crime that night. Or perhaps they're apprised of the scenario, but don't want to make any mention to the public, because it will implicate the headman's people.

I think it's unlikely there was a one on one fight with David. That's not the way Thai thugs operate. They prefer the dog pack style. More likely three or four of the bastards overpowered David, either holding upright or on the ground while one of them, probably a left hander judging by the pattern of the wounds, enjoyed himself stabbing him with a shark's tooth ring, punch knife or diver's knife. I wonder how long it will be before they strike like that again.

The possibility of David's wounds being inflicted by the same hoe that was used to kill Hannah (without a trace of his DNA being left on it) or any other blunt instrument, as reported in the police autopsy report, seem to be virtually nil and must raise grave doubts about the integrity of the rest of the work performed by the police's Institute of Forensic Medicine on the case, including the DNA testing. As Khunying Pornthip has said the collection of evidence from the unsealed off crime scene without the presence of a trained forensic pathologist created serious contamination. As she has said in the past not specific to this case, letting the police present forensic evidence through their own Institute of Forensic Medicine where all the doctors are police officers under the direct command of the national police office, with no independent corroboration is a farce in cases where there the police have a conflict of interests, which is so often the case.

any girls still going to those bars and out after the groups go home is in danger on ko tao

[Dogmatix]

sean said he had a bike accident,

the wound was unlike any i have seen from a bike,

usually they have scrapes, not punctures,

bruises, not punctures

gaping holes, not punctures

burns, not punctures

broken bones........ sean?

Sean might have had a bike accident but there was no sign of any scrapes from a bike accident on his photographs and the wounds he did have on his arm and leg were clearly not caused by a bike accident. They were, as you say, incision wounds. He said he was too hung over to go out at all on the night of the murders and stayed in. But Mon said Sean was seen covered in blood on the night of the murders and stopped at the Lotus Bar where he asked the staff to clean him up. Sean said that was from a bike accident which seems to contradict his alibi that he spent the entire day and night hung over in his room, seen by no one who could back him up.

His story about what he was doing on the night of the murders makes little sense. He knew David from Leeds and had an appointment with him on the night he was killed which he said he didn't make. He has contradictory stories about what he was doing that night and how he ended up covered in blood. He has spent quite a lot of time hanging around and working illegally on Murder Beach and knows many of the dodgy characters there and a bit about the things they get up to and claimed that two of them, including a policeman, threatened to murder him. I would think that British police would have definitely wanted to interview him. He is easy to trace if he is still staying with Francesca Mussi, former student at Leeds Uni, in Milan.

Edited November 22, 2014 by Dogmatix

[Heisenberg01]

Yes, even though the defenders of the Thai investigation (and suppression of Brit involvement) are often a pain-in-the-you-know-what, it's useful to hear some of what they opine, (except perhaps IL, who keeps going with his baby-talk banter).

It relates to the early stage of the investigation, with the original police head, when thing were going reasonably sensibly: i.e. Mon and Nomsod were still the prime suspects, and evidence was was continuing to point at them. Then all of a sudden, a new head cop was appointed by Bkk, and the headline which followed said (in effect), "Investigators are now looking at visiting football players and Burmese suspects." At that same moment, Mon and Nomsod were mysteriously no longer suspects.

What I'm trying to convey here, is that it's useful sometimes, to hear what officialdom is thinking/planning. Officialdom doesn't always announce their thoughts, so JD and some others are a window to that.

On social media, there is a photo of one of a visiting football player (or is it an AC bouncer?) - which shows him partying within inches of Hannah on that fateful night. Another recent photo of him (or the bouncer) shows the same man wearing a sharks-tooth ring, which is the sort of weapon which could inflict the injuries shown on David. The Thai is a big hefty fellow, and could more plausibly overpower a tall man like David. Much more likely than the pint-sized Burmese.

It's telling that Thai officialdom cares not a whit for the scenario in the boisterous bar - prior to the crime that night. Or perhaps they're apprised of the scenario, but don't want to make any mention to the public, because it will implicate the headman's people.

I think it's unlikely there was a one on one fight with David. That's not the way Thai thugs operate. They prefer the dog pack style. More likely three or four of the bastards overpowered David, either holding upright or on the ground while one of them, probably a left hander judging by the pattern of the wounds, enjoyed himself stabbing him with a shark's tooth ring, punch knife or diver's knife. I wonder how long it will be before they strike like that again.

The possibility of David's wounds being inflicted by the same hoe that was used to kill Hannah (without a trace of his DNA being left on it) or any other blunt instrument, as reported in the police autopsy report, seem to be virtually nil and must raise grave doubts about the integrity of the rest of the work performed by the police's Institute of Forensic Medicine on the case, including the DNA testing. As Khunying Pornthip has said the collection of evidence from the unsealed off crime scene without the presence of a trained forensic pathologist created serious contamination. As she has said in the past not specific to this case, letting the police present forensic evidence through their own Institute of Forensic Medicine where all the doctors are police officers under the direct command of the national police office, with no independent corroboration is a farce in cases where there the police have a conflict of interests, which is so often the case.

any girls still going to those bars and out after the groups go home is in danger on ko tao

You would be surprised.

There are various facebook sites that show the Ibiza/Koh tao mentality is still strong with young travellers even with what has happened.

Makes you wonder how many women have woken up with no recollection of what they did the night before.

[SteveFong]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

[Heisenberg01]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

Mcanna has done an interview with the Mail, he said so himself.

For whatever reason its not gone to print.

Yet....

[jdinasia]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

[transam]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

What police....?

[Heisenberg01]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

Im not being funny mate, i agree with with some of what your trying to get across, but do you really believe half of what you actually type?

Being cleared by police in Thailand means your not a suspect, technically yes you are correct but surely you must accept that it doesnt actually account for much, are you just being stubborn or do you actually believe that the police have done a good job on this case and are to be believed?

[jdinasia]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

What police....?

The police with jurisdiction.

Did you ever answer "what stuff"?

[jdinasia]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

Im not being funny mate, i agree with with some of what your trying to get across, but do you really believe half of what you actually type?

Being cleared by police in Thailand means your not a suspect, technically yes you are correct but surely you must accept that it doesnt actually account for much, are you just being stubborn or do you actually believe that the police have done a good job on this case and are to be believed?

You are asking 2 different questions.

Yes being cleared means you are not a suspect.

The RTP Have been far from perfect in the investigation. More of the issue has been too many public statements. Other issues include why the conspiracy theorists are fixated on one set of cleared suspects and skipping over the rest.

Consider why not one single foreign witness has come forward, consider why not one journalist from here or abroad has been able to verify even a single theory as published on csila.

People want to believe that this is a conspiracy to shield the 3rd set of suspects but not one fact to prove this has been proven.

[transam]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

What police....?

The police with jurisdiction.

Did you ever answer "what stuff"?

Jurisdiction has nothing to do with capability in many eyes.........

What what stuff.?

[jdinasia]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

What police....?

The police with jurisdiction.

Did you ever answer "what stuff"?

Jurisdiction has nothing to do with capability in many eyes.........

What what stuff.?

You have made few enough posts to me, I have made fewer replies to you. You should be able to find where I replied to your "stuff in the future" and asked "what stuff?"

[AGareth2]

if the investigation is over then what changes are being made by the police when they send the file back to the prosecutor?

additions or deletions?

[boomerangutang]

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Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

if the investigation is over then what changes are being made by the police when they send the file back to the prosecutor?

additions or deletions?

It appears the investigation has been officially over for weeks now. Your question is good. Because both the cops and the prosecutor are rowing for the same team, they both want the results dictated by higher ups: conviction of the Burmese. Whatever they need to do to skew the data in order to make it believable, they'll do. They're under more pressure than usual, with so many other eyes watching what they're doing. In the old days, they could just declare whatever suits them, and expect the public to either accept it or not care. Now they have to make it convincing, and it's a tougher row to hoe (no pun intended).

JD's point about a suspect, once excused, can not be reinstated as a suspect is interesting. Though not a binding rule in farang countries, it could apply here in Thailand, as a way to continue shielding the headman's people. If so, then a simple wave of the hand, a grin, and a 'you're not a suspect' by a top cop, can let a murderer/rapist off the hook. Easy as pie.

[jdinasia]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

if the investigation is over then what changes are being made by the police when they send the file back to the prosecutor?

additions or deletions?

It appears the investigation has been officially over for weeks now. Your question is good. Because both the cops and the prosecutor are rowing for the same team, they both want the results dictated by higher ups: conviction of the Burmese. Whatever they need to do to skew the data in order to make it believable, they'll do. They're under more pressure than usual, with so many other eyes watching what they're doing. In the old days, they could just declare whatever suits them, and expect the public to either accept it or not care. Now they have to make it convincing, and it's a tougher row to hoe (no pun intended).

JD's point about a suspect, once excused, can not be reinstated as a suspect is interesting. Though not a binding rule in farang countries, it could apply here in Thailand, as a way to continue shielding the headman's people. If so, then a simple wave of the hand, a grin, and a 'you're not a suspect' by a top cop, can let a murderer/rapist off the hook. Easy as pie.

Not a suspect means not a suspect. The additional things you add are about you.

[IslandLover]

boomerangutang, on 22 Nov 2014 - 02:40, said:boomerangutang, on 22 Nov 2014 - 02:40, said:

Yes, even though the defenders of the Thai investigation (and suppression of Brit involvement) are often a pain-in-the-you-know-what, it's useful to hear some of what they opine, (except perhaps IL, who keeps going with his baby-talk banter).

It relates to the early stage of the investigation, with the original police head, when thing were going reasonably sensibly: i.e. Mon and Nomsod were still the prime suspects, and evidence was was continuing to point at them. Then all of a sudden, a new head cop was appointed by Bkk, and the headline which followed said (in effect), "Investigators are now looking at visiting football players and Burmese suspects." At that same moment, Mon and Nomsod were mysteriously no longer suspects.

What I'm trying to convey here, is that it's useful sometimes, to hear what officialdom is thinking/planning. Officialdom doesn't always announce their thoughts, so JD and some others are a window to that.

On social media, there is a photo of one of a visiting football player (or is it an AC bouncer?) - which shows him partying within inches of Hannah on that fateful night. Another recent photo of him (or the bouncer) shows the same man wearing a sharks-tooth ring, which is the sort of weapon which could inflict the injuries shown on David. The Thai is a big hefty fellow, and could more plausibly overpower a tall man like David. Much more likely than the pint-sized Burmese.

It's telling that Thai officialdom cares not a whit for the scenario in the boisterous bar - prior to the crime that night. Or perhaps they're apprised of the scenario, but don't want to make any mention to the public, because it will implicate the headman's people.

It's telling that Thai officialdom cares not a whit for the scenario in the boisterous bar - prior to the crime that night. Or perhaps they're apprised of the scenario, but don't want to make any mention to the public, because it will implicate the headman's people.

I was doing some research yesterday and came across a post in this forum dated 2 days after the murders in which the poster (who appeared to have inside knowledge of Koh Tao) claimed that there WAS an altercation at the AC bar involving the victims and that a foreign tourist had witnessed it and had spoken out. This was several days before the international press got hold of the story and I'm inclined to believe it. So why the silence now? It was interesting that nobody challenged the poster at the time and it wasn't until later when a picture was beginning to emerge of what may have really happened that night that the challenges by the RTP apologists came in thick and fast. Curious, and my gut feeling tells me your statement above is most likely correct.

Regarding "Stingray Man", some people here seem to think he is the same person as the "Hoe Man". They are two different people. Hoe Man apparently runs a bike repair/rental shop on KT and has been posting tasteless pictures of himself posing with a hoe on social media. Stingray Man is easily identifiable by a prominent birth mark across his forehead and appears in many pictures in and around the AC bar. Both of them are very much part of the AC bar scene and I suspect they are the "muscle" for the owners. The scenario of a gang of heavies attacking Hannah and David rather than two drunken Burmese midgets is much more likely IMHO. It is to be hoped that the British police have looked into this too.

My own theory about Nomsod (or any other island big shot for that matter), if in fact he was on the island that night, is that he would not have got his hands dirty, given his status, and would have got his minions to do his dirty work for him.

Edited November 22, 2014 by IslandLover

[thailandchilli]

Just an observation:

I find it strange how a few on here fall for or follow the RTP line hook line and sinker.

In the face of international criticism and concern of police corruption in this case, suspects cleared by the RTP means absolutely nada, unless of course you believe everything they say and have faith in the Thai Justice system.

Being cleared by the police means that you are not a suspect. Which is far from being "nada"

Unfortunately the ignore function does not stop you showing up in the quotes!

Let me repeat myself just for you. A suspect released by the RTP in this investigation means NOTHING.

Just one example of that from this investigation....Chris Ware, a suspect (yes when the RTP tried to play the gaye jealous theory LOL, I wonder which of the RTP thought that one up!), then no longer a suspect and allowed to go. Then picked up again and stopped from boarding his flight in Bangkok because he suddenly became a suspect again.

Common sense tells you that in an ongoing investigation, which according to the prosecutors it is still on going, a suspect who is no longer a suspect can also resurface as a suspect again if evidence arises. You do not need to make a quote from your lawyers text book to work that one out and neither does anyone else.

Of course the evidence that some of the locals tried to destroy to cover up the real killers is still there somewhere and is the Achilles heal of the conspiracy

Edited November 22, 2014 by thailandchilli

[metisdead]

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[HeijoshinCool]

We often used the ploy of making statements to the press that a suspect was no longer a suspect, so the suspect would let his/her guard down.

[catsanddogs]

We often used the ploy of making statements to the press that a suspect was no longer a suspect, so the suspect would let his/her guard down.

Apols if this is not the appropriate thread for this and if it has been posted already:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/democracy-rule-law-thailand-murders-britons

At long last we are getting news in the British press. Come on journalists. Do you best to find the truth for Hannah and David for they have no voices now. RIP.

Edited November 22, 2014 by catsanddogs

[balo]

The boy has been cleared , even after a DNA test in Bangkok after a social media storm thanks to you guys, and with the Brits as observers .

Please deal with it now and leave the kid alone .

[HeijoshinCool]

The boy has been cleared , even after a DNA test in Bangkok after a social media storm thanks to you guys, and with the Brits as observers .

Please deal with it now and leave the kid alone .

..

He has not been cleared in my playbook.

I'm dealing with it quite well, thank you, just as I deal quite well with people spouting sarcasms intended to end any intelligent debate.

I'm not bothering "the kid." But if I were Hannah's father, or brother, or uncle ….

[Islandlife]

sean said he had a bike accident,

the wound was unlike any i have seen from a bike,

usually they have scrapes, not punctures,

bruises, not punctures

gaping holes, not punctures

burns, not punctures

broken bones........ sean?

Sean might have had a bike accident but there was no sign of any scrapes from a bike accident on his photographs and the wounds he did have on his arm and leg were clearly not caused by a bike accident. They were, as you say, incision wounds. He said he was too hung over to go out at all on the night of the murders and stayed in. But Mon said Sean was seen covered in blood on the night of the murders and stopped at the Lotus Bar where he asked the staff to clean him up. Sean said that was from a bike accident which seems to contradict his alibi that he spent the entire day and night hung over in his room, seen by no one who could back him up.

His story about what he was doing on the night of the murders makes little sense. He knew David from Leeds and had an appointment with him on the night he was killed which he said he didn't make. He has contradictory stories about what he was doing that night and how he ended up covered in blood. He has spent quite a lot of time hanging around and working illegally on Murder Beach and knows many of the dodgy characters there and a bit about the things they get up to and claimed that two of them, including a policeman, threatened to murder him. I would think that British police would have definitely wanted to interview him. He is easy to trace if he is still staying with Francesca Mussi, former student at Leeds Uni, in Milan.

Even i dont know him personally. Do know few things.

Sean never worked on Sairee beach.

He worked other end of island Maehad at Karma bar and pub crawl host sometimes i think.

He was here about 2years ago for short while and had 2 leave bcase

Unpaid bar tabs and run out money ive heard .

When he was here last time he arrived day before murders was drunk till left 10 days later with drama and bs statements. He was drunk idiot and im pretty shure reason why he not released eny more interviews its bcase its all hes own created delucional story.

Also it was found by Scottish news paper that last summer he was convicted by court of having un decent images of litle children in hes laptop and got sentenced about it.

I think out with fairies would be my description of him .

[Islandlife]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

Mcanna has done an interview with the Mail, he said so himself.

For whatever reason its not gone to print.

Yet....

Mail reporter said him self . 2 days after Sean first interview wich he did was and was widely shared ,maby Sean got hes 15 min of fame and he shud of checked he's story/backround before publishing it. And how it really went down. Well we all know those papers is not really about truth. Its about selling papers.

Also if he looked scared on interview was bcase hed been on week bender and night before was been drinking from morning till this supposed death threat happened...

Lets put it like this..Head line,Koh tao mafia tryed kill scared scots man..

far more dramatic headline then how it really went down .

Thai resort owner was thinking he solved murders when he thought Sean fled bcase they conforted him about why he was covered in blood around time of murders etc in Ac bar that night.. Instantly after Sean left running from them and thats why they went after him .

He run next super market . And wasnt interest getting help . He wrote status facebook instead that call sky news...

Dont get me wrong but if id be chased by soneone .id think its gangster in 2000 century id just call police . Corrupted or not.

Just my thoughts and version ive heard from reliable source whom have no reason to lie to me.

[SteveFong]

We often used the ploy of making statements to the press that a suspect was no longer a suspect, so the suspect would let his/her guard down.

Apols if this is not the appropriate thread for this and if it has been posted already:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/21/democracy-rule-law-thailand-murders-britons

At long last we are getting news in the British press. Come on journalists. Do you best to find the truth for Hannah and David for they have no voices now. RIP.

the writer of this article had an agenda which co-opted the brutal Ko Tao murders and was more a swipe at the junta, that isn't a junta.

I don't like the article leaving out the multiple and serious defects in the case

I do like that he wrote about the two brutally murdered Ko Tao tourists and brought it to the Guardian on a weekend when it can wind its way through the web, and gain increased awareness for the case

[SteveFong]

The boy has been cleared , even after a DNA test in Bangkok after a social media storm thanks to you guys, and with the Brits as observers .

Please deal with it now and leave the kid alone .

the "kid" has a pictorial reputation that no amount of lawyered contriteness will white wash

his pictures prior to the murders with other blonde females, lends credibility to this

he may well have been the rapist, and then left by boat

that, would be the likeliest of scenarios if his father ran the island,

the other rapists joined in, but guaranteed, he was the first, if he was there

the Burmese kids have probably been aware of this gang of killers and decided to vamoose the scene,

only to be picked as the one's to take the fall,

if the one Burmese kid was a bartender there,

he knows plenty

[SteveFong]

sean said he had a bike accident,

the wound was unlike any i have seen from a bike,

usually they have scrapes, not punctures,

bruises, not punctures

gaping holes, not punctures

burns, not punctures

broken bones........ sean?

Sean might have had a bike accident but there was no sign of any scrapes from a bike accident on his photographs and the wounds he did have on his arm and leg were clearly not caused by a bike accident. They were, as you say, incision wounds. He said he was too hung over to go out at all on the night of the murders and stayed in. But Mon said Sean was seen covered in blood on the night of the murders and stopped at the Lotus Bar where he asked the staff to clean him up. Sean said that was from a bike accident which seems to contradict his alibi that he spent the entire day and night hung over in his room, seen by no one who could back him up.

His story about what he was doing on the night of the murders makes little sense. He knew David from Leeds and had an appointment with him on the night he was killed which he said he didn't make. He has contradictory stories about what he was doing that night and how he ended up covered in blood. He has spent quite a lot of time hanging around and working illegally on Murder Beach and knows many of the dodgy characters there and a bit about the things they get up to and claimed that two of them, including a policeman, threatened to murder him. I would think that British police would have definitely wanted to interview him. He is easy to trace if he is still staying with Francesca Mussi, former student at Leeds Uni, in Milan.

Even i dont know him personally. Do know few things.

Sean never worked on Sairee beach.

He worked other end of island Maehad at Karma bar and pub crawl host sometimes i think.

He was here about 2years ago for short while and had 2 leave bcase

Unpaid bar tabs and run out money ive heard .

When he was here last time he arrived day before murders was drunk till left 10 days later with drama and bs statements. He was drunk idiot and im pretty shure reason why he not released eny more interviews its bcase its all hes own created delucional story.

Also it was found by Scottish news paper that last summer he was convicted by court of having un decent images of litle children in hes laptop and got sentenced about it.

I think out with fairies would be my description of him .

so, in your view,

Sean didn't know any of the people at the AC bar,

Sean didn't know the headmans son?

Sean never slipped a date rape drug into any visiting females drinks?

[SteveFong]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

Mcanna has done an interview with the Mail, he said so himself.

For whatever reason its not gone to print.

Yet....

Mail reporter said him self . 2 days after Sean first interview wich he did was and was widely shared ,maby Sean got hes 15 min of fame and he shud of checked he's story/backround before publishing it. And how it really went down. Well we all know those papers is not really about truth. Its about selling papers.

Also if he looked scared on interview was bcase hed been on week bender and night before was been drinking from morning till this supposed death threat happened...

Lets put it like this..Head line,Koh tao mafia tryed kill scared scots man..

far more dramatic headline then how it really went down .

Thai resort owner was thinking he solved murders when he thought Sean fled bcase they conforted him about why he was covered in blood around time of murders etc in Ac bar that night.. Instantly after Sean left running from them and thats why they went after him .

He run next super market . And wasnt interest getting help . He wrote status facebook instead that call sky news...

Dont get me wrong but if id be chased by soneone .id think its gangster in 2000 century id just call police . Corrupted or not.

Just my thoughts and version ive heard from reliable source whom have no reason to lie to me.

so, islandlife,

does your reliable source know about any rapes and murders of the past in Ko Tao?

does your reliable source, know Sean?

and ps.

I don't care if Sean had pictures of 17 year old girls on his laptop,

he was 19, and, it is legal to have sex with 17 year old girls, if you are below 24, in almost every state in the USA, and

in muslim countries, they marry little girls to old men, so take your pornography implications elsewhere

stay on the topic,

which is your reliable source

what does your reliable source tell you about date rape drugs being used at the AC bar?

and by the way,

how do all of those drugs get into Ko Tao?

[jaidam]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

Mcanna has done an interview with the Mail, he said so himself.

For whatever reason its not gone to print.

Yet....

Mail reporter said him self . 2 days after Sean first interview wich he did was and was widely shared ,maby Sean got hes 15 min of fame and he shud of checked he's story/backround before publishing it. And how it really went down. Well we all know those papers is not really about truth. Its about selling papers.

Also if he looked scared on interview was bcase hed been on week bender and night before was been drinking from morning till this supposed death threat happened...

Lets put it like this..Head line,Koh tao mafia tryed kill scared scots man..

far more dramatic headline then how it really went down .

Thai resort owner was thinking he solved murders when he thought Sean fled bcase they conforted him about why he was covered in blood around time of murders etc in Ac bar that night.. Instantly after Sean left running from them and thats why they went after him .

He run next super market . And wasnt interest getting help . He wrote status facebook instead that call sky news...

Dont get me wrong but if id be chased by soneone .id think its gangster in 2000 century id just call police . Corrupted or not.

Just my thoughts and version ive heard from reliable source whom have no reason to lie to me.

So Sean, hiding for his life in a supermarket, with bent police threatening to kill him by hanging to frame him for the murder, should have just called the police?

I'd say the lad got it right calling the media in this unusual situation.

Sean's accident was from a week or so before the murders. Andy Lines amongst others covered this early on. Thanks to the passage of time it's easy now for the casual liar to suggest the blood on Sean came from the fatal night. Remember this rumor started when a manager of AC Bar claimed in an interview that Sean had blood etc, cleaned off at Lotus Bar. Isn't it a shame that all CCTV in that area disappeared, and I'm talking footage from over a dozen cameras. Must be those influential Burmese again?

[SteveFong]

I think Sean did speak with police in UK,

I read where it was arranged by a uk reporter

I also think this doesnt go away,

it gets worse and takes some big people down

Mcanna has done an interview with the Mail, he said so himself.

For whatever reason its not gone to print.

Yet....

Mail reporter said him self . 2 days after Sean first interview wich he did was and was widely shared ,maby Sean got hes 15 min of fame and he shud of checked he's story/backround before publishing it. And how it really went down. Well we all know those papers is not really about truth. Its about selling papers.

Also if he looked scared on interview was bcase hed been on week bender and night before was been drinking from morning till this supposed death threat happened...

Lets put it like this..Head line,Koh tao mafia tryed kill scared scots man..

far more dramatic headline then how it really went down .

Thai resort owner was thinking he solved murders when he thought Sean fled bcase they conforted him about why he was covered in blood around time of murders etc in Ac bar that night.. Instantly after Sean left running from them and thats why they went after him .

He run next super market . And wasnt interest getting help . He wrote status facebook instead that call sky news...

Dont get me wrong but if id be chased by soneone .id think its gangster in 2000 century id just call police . Corrupted or not.

Just my thoughts and version ive heard from reliable source whom have no reason to lie to me.

not to worry islandlife,

no one is getting you wrong here

we have you just right.

we were awake the night Sean rn for his life and posted on Facebook for someone to save his life

no amount of story telling by you or anyone else will be able to recreate that the way your friends on the island would like

since your opinion of Sean is one of a drunken loser,

I would imagine that you also think he would use date rape drugs on unsuspecting pretty females who didnt want to have se with him, right?

after all,

he likes pornography of girls his age,

it just happened to have been a crime because the law said it was a crime,

but when I was 19, I had a 17 year old girlfriend, and that wasnt a crime

but if I had a picture of her topless on my computer it would have been a crime, so,

what about it islandlife,

tell is all, that you also think he would use date rape drugs on unsuspecting pretty females who didnt want to have se with him,

or ask your reliable source if Sean, who didnt want to pay for overpriced drinks,

didn't like to use date rape drugs on pretty girls?