Plodprasob says Pheu Thai will not join charter writing process

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Plodprasob says Pheu Thai will not join charter writing process



BANGKOK: -- The Pheu Thai party will not participate in any activities staged by the government set up by the military junta , including the drafting of a new constitution and reforming the country, said Mr Plodprasob Surasvadi, acting deputy leader of the party, today.

He said that the party had not been officially invited by the Constitution Drafting Committee to present its input for the new charter apart from a telephone call to join the meeting with the CDC.

He pointed out that the party could not send an official representative to meet the CDC but could, at best, offer some general views about the charter such as protection of the liberty and right for equal treatment and a true democratic rule.

Mr Plodprasob further said that any official view of the party concerning the charter would have to be discussed in the party or, at least, in the executive committee. He suggested that the martial law be eased to allow political parties to hold meetings.

Dr Weng Tochirakarn, a core member of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, suggested that civic groups should also be invited to share their views on the new charter with the CDC. He also recommended that the martial law should be scrapped otherwise it would be accused later on that the new charter was drafted under martial law.

(Photo : Thai PBS File)

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/plodprasob-says-pheu-thai-will-join-charter-writing-process/


-- Thai PBS 2014-11-13

[clockman]

The ex science minister come wild animal food expert appears!

[Costas2008]

Doesn't matter about your party's input Mr Plodprasob,

For 2.5 years you were in charge and you contributed nothing to Thailand.

Except spending the taxpayers money for your own benefits.

Hope I don't hear from you ever again.

[Commerce]

Prod the plop should have enough assets to go and shut up. Begone with you old man.... you are not even a part of history.... you're a no mark.

[Robby nz]

The ex science minister come wild animal food expert appears!

Indeed, he has still got to answer charges of exporting endangered wildlife :

THE NATION August 14, 2012 1:00 am

The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) will meet with the Office of the Attorney-General today to arrange for proceedings to begin against Science Minister Plodprasob Surassawadi over his controversial approval of the export of 100 tigers to China in 2003.

Plodprasob, who headed the Royal Forestry Department (RFD) at the time, said yesterday he was currently immune to legal prosecution because he was an MP carrying out his duty during the ongoing parliamentary session.

Now that he has no longer got parliamentary immunity we should be hearing more about this case soon.

But of course they wont put forward any ideas of their own, they arent allowed to have ideas, Thaksin still thinks for them and gives the orders.

[thesetat2013]

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

[Cuchulainn]

Yeah, because it doesn't fill their troughs with gravy.

What do you expect from a bunch of banned fraudsters and criminals led by a fugitive?

[ramrod711]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, turns out this is one of the rare times I was right. The very first thing that crossed my mind when I read the headline was; "who gives a sh#t what the Plod thinks". Judging from the replies so far, nobody.

[worgeordie]

They will not take part,but will wait until they are back in power again,

then make changes that suit them.

regards Worgeordie

[JOC]

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

In the unlikely event the army should ever stage a coup against a Democrat-led government, do you really think, the yellows would be eager to join talks about a new charter with the guys, who removed them from power??

[JOC]

They will not take part,but will wait until they are back in power again,

then make changes that suit them.

regards Worgeordie

Isn't that exactly what the coup-makers are doing now??

[JOC]

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

"The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only selfcentered and have nothing to do with real democracy" <quote

Have to agree, the idea of 1person/1vote is the most perverted idea the scamming reds have ever come up with!! Have even started to spread to Western countries!! Time to put a stop to the disease!!

[slapout]

The only place that Plod should be, is behind bars along with all of his associates. I would like to hear his explanation for his massive wealth accumlated while he has held his public service positions. So far he has shown he was/is completly unqualified to accomplish anything of substance for Thailnd and her general population. This man is typical of the entire group of Thaksin's supporters/hench men/women, dumber than a rock and selfserving in his thoughts and actions.

[dru2]

Prod the plop should have enough assets to go and shut up. Begone with you old man.... you are not even a part of history.... you're a no mark.

A skidmark.

[Cuchulainn]

Like the main runway on LHR Terminal 3

[djjamie]

How appropriate that the man that wants nothing to do with restoring democracy to Thailand is the same man that told protestors they are garbage while threatening them with violence at the hands of the RCM51 terror group. The same man that had steadfastly refused to allow the public to give input into the water management project and had to be taken to court to ensure transparency of the scheme.

Thank god for small mercies though. At least he is not dressed up as a 13th century king while giving this statement that he won't support a brighter future for all Thai's, but then…….he never supported them when he was in office either.

[whybother]

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

In the unlikely event the army should ever stage a coup against a Democrat-led government, do you really think, the yellows would be eager to join talks about a new charter with the guys, who removed them from power??

The Yellows might not. The Democrats probably would.

[lungmi]

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In the unlikely event the army should ever stage a coup against a Democrat-led government, do you really think, the yellows would be eager to join talks about a new charter with the guys, who removed them from power??

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.
The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.
Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

JOC , you ae volunteer to be eaten at the Safari Park in Chiang Mai? Or you need some propellers to brush up your mind?

[mrtoad]

A fine example of everything that is wrong with Thai politics.

[rubl]

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

In the unlikely event the army should ever stage a coup against a Democrat-led government, do you really think, the yellows would be eager to join talks about a new charter with the guys, who removed them from power??

If the charter writing with extra safeguards and the necessary reforms to go with it to make Thailand really democratic most 'yellows' will rue the day they asked for it.

Mind you, even with proper changes we still have the 67 million Thai who have to start to get used to 'real' democracy. Now that is a daunting task.

[rubl]

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited. They stated a few times before that they would not cooperate and not obstruct and adapt a 'wait-and-so' stance for the time till reforms and charter activities got more form.

Somehow it seems they are now annoyed taken by their word that they wouldn't cooperate. " 'not invited', tjeez did the NRC, CDC, whoever think we really meant it?"

As I wrote before, an overwhelming response could have had positive influences.

"I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you?"

With thanks to Monty Python

[JOC]

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In the unlikely event the army should ever stage a coup against a Democrat-led government, do you really think, the yellows would be eager to join talks about a new charter with the guys, who removed them from power??

Just as well they dont go! The PTP and UDD idea about democracy are only self centered and have nothing to do with real democracy.

The only problem is that once the martial law is ended they will return screaming injustice and that it was the Armies fault they didnt get to make any input.

Or, they will just find sneaky ways to amend whatever laws and rules to benefit themselves.

JOC , you ae volunteer to be eaten at the Safari Park in Chiang Mai? Or you need some propellers to brush up your mind?

If I was able to understand one word of your post, I would be more than happy to reply!!

[fab4]

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited. They stated a few times before that they would not cooperate and not obstruct and adapt a 'wait-and-so' stance for the time till reforms and charter activities got more form.

Somehow it seems they are now annoyed taken by their word that they wouldn't cooperate. " 'not invited', tjeez did the NRC, CDC, whoever think we really meant it?"

As I wrote before, an overwhelming response could have had positive influences.

"I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you?"

With thanks to Monty Python

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited.

Despite your attempt to portray a political parties decision not to take part in any type of charter writing process which has come about as the result of a coup that removed democracy from Thailand, as some sort of petulance, it is more likely that the clarification of the PTP's position was due to this erroneous report

The Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) says it welcomes opinions from all sectors, and various political parties have already accepted its invitation to discuss the charter drafting.

The CDC is scheduled to hold discussions with those parties on the following dates: November 17th with the Pheu Thai Party,.........................

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/776208-several-political-parties-accept-to-participate-in-the-thai-charter-drafting-discussion/#entry8664800

Edited November 13, 2014 by fab4

[givenall]

This is a great news

[AleG]

Well, great! Who wants someone like Plodprasop giving input regarding Democratic governance?
Here's he's (and the party he belongs to) concept of "Democracy":

Speaking in the Chiang Mai Gymnasium at a political event called “Pheu Thai for the Future of Thailand”, he said, “I don’t want to do it [the convention centre in Phuket]. Why? Any problem? We will do it in the future when the people of Phuket see the good side of us and elect our man.
“I will do it for you, but right now I don’t feel like it,” he said to cheers from the crowd in the gymnasium, many wearing red shirts and rattling “foot clappers”.

That's PTP vision for the future of Thailand, "vote for us or we'll screw you"

[yimlitnoy]

Plodprasob says Pheu Thai will not join charter writing process

Thank God! Pheu Thai have tried to sink Thailand so much already.for the benefit of a fugitive instead of the good people of Thailand who are suffering.

[rubl]

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited. They stated a few times before that they would not cooperate and not obstruct and adapt a 'wait-and-so' stance for the time till reforms and charter activities got more form.

Somehow it seems they are now annoyed taken by their word that they wouldn't cooperate. " 'not invited', tjeez did the NRC, CDC, whoever think we really meant it?"

As I wrote before, an overwhelming response could have had positive influences.

"I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you?"

With thanks to Monty Python

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited.

Despite your attempt to portray a political parties decision not to take part in any type of charter writing process which has come about as the result of a coup that removed democracy from Thailand, as some sort of petulance, it is more likely that the clarification of the PTP's position was due to this erroneous report

The Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) says it welcomes opinions from all sectors, and various political parties have already accepted its invitation to discuss the charter drafting.

The CDC is scheduled to hold discussions with those parties on the following dates: November 17th with the Pheu Thai Party,.........................

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/776208-several-political-parties-accept-to-participate-in-the-thai-charter-drafting-discussion/#entry8664800

Ah, thanks. I missed that one, been a bit busy lately.

So, Pheu Thai only got a phone call to ask them to join, but no formal invitation.

The "pointed out that the party could not send an official representative to meet the CDC but could, at best, offer some general views" in the OP is still a bit confusing then. Its not explicitly stated why they couldn't send an official representative. That may be related to the 'formal' stance of the party on not participating of course.

[noitom]

This is the same guy as the flood guy - the water management guy? The same guy who was accused by the criminal court of signing an illegal order to ship 100 Bengal tigers to China in 2002? Wow, he is still in a position of power and influence in Thailand. Amazing.

[heybruce]

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited. They stated a few times before that they would not cooperate and not obstruct and adapt a 'wait-and-so' stance for the time till reforms and charter activities got more form.

Somehow it seems they are now annoyed taken by their word that they wouldn't cooperate. " 'not invited', tjeez did the NRC, CDC, whoever think we really meant it?"

As I wrote before, an overwhelming response could have had positive influences.

"I warned you, but did you listen to me? Oh, no, you knew it all, didn't you?"

With thanks to Monty Python

It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited.

Despite your attempt to portray a political parties decision not to take part in any type of charter writing process which has come about as the result of a coup that removed democracy from Thailand, as some sort of petulance, it is more likely that the clarification of the PTP's position was due to this erroneous report

The Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) says it welcomes opinions from all sectors, and various political parties have already accepted its invitation to discuss the charter drafting.

The CDC is scheduled to hold discussions with those parties on the following dates: November 17th with the Pheu Thai Party,.........................

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/776208-several-political-parties-accept-to-participate-in-the-thai-charter-drafting-discussion/#entry8664800

Ah, thanks. I missed that one, been a bit busy lately.

So, Pheu Thai only got a phone call to ask them to join, but no formal invitation.

The "pointed out that the party could not send an official representative to meet the CDC but could, at best, offer some general views" in the OP is still a bit confusing then. Its not explicitly stated why they couldn't send an official representative. That may be related to the 'formal' stance of the party on not participating of course.

"It would seem that the Pheu Thai party is really peeved at not being invited."

I think they're primarily peeved about the coup.

"The "pointed out that the party could not send an official representative to meet the CDC but could, at best, offer some general views" in the OP is still a bit confusing then."

Perhaps the party would like to have a meeting of five or more members before deciding on participation and input, but can't under martial law.

[Thormaturge]

^

Given that the alternative is "Vote for us or there will be another coup" I wonder why anyone bothers to vote.