French man found dead in Koh Tao – incident being treated as suicide not homicide

[micmichd]

http://www.internationalcrimeauthors.com/?p=1367

Don't oversimplify.

Remember, in Farang countries you also need money to get the law working for you.

Call it bribe, or call it fee. For me, money is money is money.

[samuijimmy]

After over ten trips to the Dark Tao over the years, I will never again consider returning, and am making an attempt to convince everyone in my power not to visit, ever. It is an incredibly dark place, run by five piglet families, who own the police and ALL other authorities. Nobody will touch them. Not the big general, not the government, not the police. When crime families like these are above the law, the place reminds one of Chicago before Elliott Ness. That island is an extremely dangerous place. Visit at your own peril. Pass the word please. Withdraw all support to the pigs. Remember Nomsod the Terrible. Never forget David, Hannah, and the more recent murders.

Utter rubbish... to say the whole island is dangerous.... another one of the continual attempts of your complete negativity it seems about everything on the islands here...

[spidermike007]

After over ten trips to the Dark Tao over the years, I will never again consider returning, and am making an attempt to convince everyone in my power not to visit, ever. It is an incredibly dark place, run by five piglet families, who own the police and ALL other authorities. Nobody will touch them. Not the big general, not the government, not the police. When crime families like these are above the law, the place reminds one of Chicago before Elliott Ness. That island is an extremely dangerous place. Visit at your own peril. Pass the word please. Withdraw all support to the pigs. Remember Nomsod the Terrible. Never forget David, Hannah, and the more recent murders.

Utter rubbish... to say the whole island is dangerous.... another one of the continual attempts of your complete negativity it seems about everything on the islands here...

Tao is far, far more dangerous than Phangan or Samui. Having five families run everything, including the law, is just plain ignorant and dangerous, and Tao is a very dark place. And yes, I have my share of complaints about Samui. There is still a lot I like about it, but I do not recognise the place anymore. I am soon leaving. It is not moving in a positive direction, in my humble view.

[BigBadGeordie]

After over ten trips to the Dark Tao over the years, I will never again consider returning, and am making an attempt to convince everyone in my power not to visit, ever. It is an incredibly dark place, run by five piglet families, who own the police and ALL other authorities. Nobody will touch them. Not the big general, not the government, not the police. When crime families like these are above the law, the place reminds one of Chicago before Elliott Ness. That island is an extremely dangerous place. Visit at your own peril. Pass the word please. Withdraw all support to the pigs. Remember Nomsod the Terrible. Never forget David, Hannah, and the more recent murders.

Utter rubbish... to say the whole island is dangerous.... another one of the continual attempts of your complete negativity it seems about everything on the islands here...

I assume you live there or a regular visitor.....I rest my case

[AleG]

Good to see some Thai's speak out against the RTP for once ... would be nice if they looked into all the foreigner "suicides" over the years to determine the real cause of death and who the perpetrators actually were (as if we didn't already know in most cases).

STRANGE COINCIDENCE, the man who fell to his death 50 m or so (no bruises) a while back only shortly after leaving the same bar the British couple were drinking in, and escorted home by family, judged (suicide by RTP) and now a Frenchman dead one hour after leaving a bar.

What seems to be is that a gang of murderers is operating without fear and females are obviously involved in this gang.

Probably the same gang that murdered the British couple and they operate without fear as every death is a suicide and if not then was committed by a Burma worker.

RTP should be looking for the one armed man (Richard Kimble) or a man called Iris.

This is what happens when people take at face value comments on a website from people with no credibility at all; that man didn't fall 50 meters, he fell 50 feet, he had bruises and I don't know who told you the tale that he was coming from the same bar as the two UK victims or if you just pulled that one out of... thin air.

Amazingly (not), from that complete unacquaintance with facts you draw some pretty far out conclusions, like: "What seems to be is that a gang of murderers is operating without fear and females are obviously involved in this gang"

Makes one lose faith in humanity, yes it does.

[micmichd]

I hoped nobody would notice that part about the females.

So, halali, finally back to our favourite targets ?

[AleG]

Criminologist doubts suicide theory of a tourist

BANGKOK: -- A criminologist has voiced his support for calls by media and relatives of a victim of suspected suicide by the police and forensic experts to look for more evidences to determine the exact cause of the death the victim.

The victim who was a tourist was found dead in his hotel room on New Year’s Day with his hands and neck tied to ropes. Police suspected he committed suicide by hanging himself.

But Associate Professor Charnkanit Krittiya Suriyamanee, a criminologist and lecturer at the faculty of social science and humanities of Mahidol University, said he doubted the suicide theory citing some irrelevant evidences.

He said that the victim had been drunk to the extent that he was unable to control himself, he would not have been able to tie himself up so tightly that he died of suffocation.

Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists. Also, he noted that the several pieces of rope which were used in the suspected suicide appeared to be different which might suggest that the death was not caused by suicide.

The wound on the victim’s elbow could have been inflicted by someone else, he said.

He also suggested that it was not too late to check the level of alcohol in the body of the dead victim to find out if he was drunk or not.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/criminologist-doubts-suicide-theory-tourist

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-06

So,,, let the TVF "Criminologists" who routinely defend the RTP on ANY subject they're suspected of, corrupting/fouling up,,,, start tearing into this guy,,,, I'm sure he knows not of what he speaks, compared to all you, "experts"...... This guy is saying/questioning nearly exactly the same inconsistancies that many of us on here have said from day one,,,,, lol

Off the bat I can point out that he is factually incorrect in one important point: "Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists"

The man had injuries in his neck: "Wounds were discovered around the man’s neck" I would say such a glaring mistake blows the validity of his opinions out of the water.

Did he see an actual report on the case or is he just giving an opinion based on media reports?

[Mooner]

Good to see some Thai's speak out against the RTP for once ... would be nice if they looked into all the foreigner "suicides" over the years to determine the real cause of death and who the perpetrators actually were (as if we didn't already know in most cases).

STRANGE COINCIDENCE, the man who fell to his death 50 m or so (no bruises) a while back only shortly after leaving the same bar the British couple were drinking in, and escorted home by family, judged (suicide by RTP) and now a Frenchman dead one hour after leaving a bar.

What seems to be is that a gang of murderers is operating without fear and females are obviously involved in this gang.

Probably the same gang that murdered the British couple and they operate without fear as every death is a suicide and if not then was committed by a Burma worker.

RTP should be looking for the one armed man (Richard Kimble) or a man called Iris.

This is what happens when people take at face value comments on a website from people with no credibility at all; that man didn't fall 50 meters, he fell 50 feet, he had bruises and I don't know who told you the tale that he was coming from the same bar as the two UK victims or if you just pulled that one out of... thin air.

Amazingly (not), from that complete unacquaintance with facts you draw some pretty far out conclusions, like: "What seems to be is that a gang of murderers is operating without fear and females are obviously involved in this gang"

Makes one lose faith in humanity, yes it does.

Only 50 ft. Now I see why he only had bruises to his face and no broken bones

[Willy Eckerslike]

Criminologist doubts suicide theory of a tourist

BANGKOK: -- A criminologist has voiced his support for calls by media and relatives of a victim of suspected suicide by the police and forensic experts to look for more evidences to determine the exact cause of the death the victim.

The victim who was a tourist was found dead in his hotel room on New Year’s Day with his hands and neck tied to ropes. Police suspected he committed suicide by hanging himself.

But Associate Professor Charnkanit Krittiya Suriyamanee, a criminologist and lecturer at the faculty of social science and humanities of Mahidol University, said he doubted the suicide theory citing some irrelevant evidences.

He said that the victim had been drunk to the extent that he was unable to control himself, he would not have been able to tie himself up so tightly that he died of suffocation.

Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists. Also, he noted that the several pieces of rope which were used in the suspected suicide appeared to be different which might suggest that the death was not caused by suicide.

The wound on the victim’s elbow could have been inflicted by someone else, he said.

He also suggested that it was not too late to check the level of alcohol in the body of the dead victim to find out if he was drunk or not.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/criminologist-doubts-suicide-theory-tourist

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-06

So,,, let the TVF "Criminologists" who routinely defend the RTP on ANY subject they're suspected of, corrupting/fouling up,,,, start tearing into this guy,,,, I'm sure he knows not of what he speaks, compared to all you, "experts"...... This guy is saying/questioning nearly exactly the same inconsistancies that many of us on here have said from day one,,,,, lol

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

[micmichd]

I would really like to learn some of the backgrounds.

Did the young Frenchman promised a rose garden to any Thai (girl), well knowing that he would not be able to keep his promises?

Or - in other words: was he maybe part of a scam?

[spidermike007]

Criminologist doubts suicide theory of a tourist

BANGKOK: -- A criminologist has voiced his support for calls by media and relatives of a victim of suspected suicide by the police and forensic experts to look for more evidences to determine the exact cause of the death the victim.

The victim who was a tourist was found dead in his hotel room on New Year’s Day with his hands and neck tied to ropes. Police suspected he committed suicide by hanging himself.

But Associate Professor Charnkanit Krittiya Suriyamanee, a criminologist and lecturer at the faculty of social science and humanities of Mahidol University, said he doubted the suicide theory citing some irrelevant evidences.

He said that the victim had been drunk to the extent that he was unable to control himself, he would not have been able to tie himself up so tightly that he died of suffocation.

Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists. Also, he noted that the several pieces of rope which were used in the suspected suicide appeared to be different which might suggest that the death was not caused by suicide.

The wound on the victim’s elbow could have been inflicted by someone else, he said.

He also suggested that it was not too late to check the level of alcohol in the body of the dead victim to find out if he was drunk or not.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/criminologist-doubts-suicide-theory-tourist

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-06

So,,, let the TVF "Criminologists" who routinely defend the RTP on ANY subject they're suspected of, corrupting/fouling up,,,, start tearing into this guy,,,, I'm sure he knows not of what he speaks, compared to all you, "experts"...... This guy is saying/questioning nearly exactly the same inconsistancies that many of us on here have said from day one,,,,, lol

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

It is simply good for the country that someone is speaking out. First the top forensic expert in the country, with regard to David and Hannah, and now a reputable guy like this, in regard to this latest "murder". Change is only going to happen here if it is forced upon the relevant parties. It will not happen because it is the right thing to do, or to benefit the Thai masses. It will happen out of deep embarrassment, or humiliation. It may happen due to outside forces. Regardless. The more people that blow the cover off the RTP, and the government cover up, the better. Keep it up guys. Keep the pressure on the army and the coddled, overly protected, incompetent police force. These police matters should never be allowed to be politicized, as they are being done now.

[stephen terry]

Criminologist doubts suicide theory of a tourist

BANGKOK: -- A criminologist has voiced his support for calls by media and relatives of a victim of suspected suicide by the police and forensic experts to look for more evidences to determine the exact cause of the death the victim.

The victim who was a tourist was found dead in his hotel room on New Year’s Day with his hands and neck tied to ropes. Police suspected he committed suicide by hanging himself.

But Associate Professor Charnkanit Krittiya Suriyamanee, a criminologist and lecturer at the faculty of social science and humanities of Mahidol University, said he doubted the suicide theory citing some irrelevant evidences.

He said that the victim had been drunk to the extent that he was unable to control himself, he would not have been able to tie himself up so tightly that he died of suffocation.

Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists. Also, he noted that the several pieces of rope which were used in the suspected suicide appeared to be different which might suggest that the death was not caused by suicide.

The wound on the victim’s elbow could have been inflicted by someone else, he said.

He also suggested that it was not too late to check the level of alcohol in the body of the dead victim to find out if he was drunk or not.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/criminologist-doubts-suicide-theory-tourist

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-06

So,,, let the TVF "Criminologists" who routinely defend the RTP on ANY subject they're suspected of, corrupting/fouling up,,,, start tearing into this guy,,,, I'm sure he knows not of what he speaks, compared to all you, "experts"...... This guy is saying/questioning nearly exactly the same inconsistancies that many of us on here have said from day one,,,,, lol

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

It is simply good for the country that someone is speaking out. First the top forensic expert in the country, with regard to David and Hannah, and now a reputable guy like this, in regard to this latest "murder". Change is only going to happen here if it is forced upon the relevant parties. It will not happen because it is the right thing to do, or to benefit the Thai masses. It will happen out of deep embarrassment, or humiliation. It may happen due to outside forces. Regardless. The more people that blow the cover off the RTP, and the government cover up, the better. Keep it up guys. Keep the pressure on the army and the coddled, overly protected, incompetent police force. These police matters should never be allowed to be politicized, as they are being done now.

If this guy's analysis proves to be factual, and the evidence points more to homicide than suicide, the RTP are in deep mire. Loss of faeces comes to mind.

IMHO, should the above be regarded as a homicide, it would be about bl**dy time the PM demanded some accountability on Koh Tao, or would he be comfortable letting untouchable killers roam the island at will? But the good news would be that the Burmese 2 defence would look stronger every day.

Edited January 8, 2015 by stephen terry

[spidermike007]

The latter statement appears to be an absolute fact. In many of our minds, that is exactly what happened with the murder of David and Hannah. Paris Hilton is more guilty of that crime, than those poor Burmese chaps. Prayuth made a conscious choice to leave the piglet family alone. Do not upset the apple cart. Do not unseat the elite. They are above the law. All laws. Their wealth, power and influence make those five families more powerful than the local or national police, the local or national government, and the army. Keep in mind, they have been selling leased land, that they do not own, for decades now, and making hundreds of millions of dollars from it, with the complicity of the local land department. It is a scam of monumental proportions. The entire island is leased land. It is one of the darkest places in Thailand. A crime infested land of corruption, and influence, that puts the rest of Thailand to shame. Tao is completely out of control, and NOBODY wants to, or is willing to do anything about it. I will never visit that dark cave of an island again.

Edited January 9, 2015 by PoorSucker
removed tangled quotes

[AleG]

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

It is simply good for the country that someone is speaking out. First the top forensic expert in the country, with regard to David and Hannah, and now a reputable guy like this, in regard to this latest "murder". Change is only going to happen here if it is forced upon the relevant parties. It will not happen because it is the right thing to do, or to benefit the Thai masses. It will happen out of deep embarrassment, or humiliation. It may happen due to outside forces. Regardless. The more people that blow the cover off the RTP, and the government cover up, the better. Keep it up guys. Keep the pressure on the army and the coddled, overly protected, incompetent police force. These police matters should never be allowed to be politicized, as they are being done now.

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

[steven100]

RTP = no credibility

Check out the Koh Tao mafia might be a good place to start ......

[micmichd]

No, this should be the next step in case it was not suicide.

In this case it would still be questionable whether it should be considered to be murder. Should be investigated what happened before, maybe misunderstandings because of poor English, or the like.

[stephen terry]

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

It is simply good for the country that someone is speaking out. First the top forensic expert in the country, with regard to David and Hannah, and now a reputable guy like this, in regard to this latest "murder". Change is only going to happen here if it is forced upon the relevant parties. It will not happen because it is the right thing to do, or to benefit the Thai masses. It will happen out of deep embarrassment, or humiliation. It may happen due to outside forces. Regardless. The more people that blow the cover off the RTP, and the government cover up, the better. Keep it up guys. Keep the pressure on the army and the coddled, overly protected, incompetent police force. These police matters should never be allowed to be politicized, as they are being done now.

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

Thai BPS report, the broadcaster you can trust: Wounds were discovered around the man’s neck as well as two 5 cm lacerations to his arm, one near his wrist, and the second near to his elbow.

Bruises or wounds around the neck? A bruise or laceration near his wrist? Quite a few wounds and lacerations, then - no mention of bruises? Open verdict on the basis of the above. What is clear is that the so-called RTP 'autopsy' was inadequate in determining exact cause of death. A shambles, really. No wonder there has been speculation.

[sambum]

Not counting the wounds on the neck which are not bruises and were obviously not caused by the rope...................No bruising from the rope around his neck would indicate he was dead before he was hanged, whearas the bruising from the rope around his wrists would indicate he was alive when his hands were tied..............Well spotted the Criminologist........

It is simply good for the country that someone is speaking out. First the top forensic expert in the country, with regard to David and Hannah, and now a reputable guy like this, in regard to this latest "murder". Change is only going to happen here if it is forced upon the relevant parties. It will not happen because it is the right thing to do, or to benefit the Thai masses. It will happen out of deep embarrassment, or humiliation. It may happen due to outside forces. Regardless. The more people that blow the cover off the RTP, and the government cover up, the better. Keep it up guys. Keep the pressure on the army and the coddled, overly protected, incompetent police force. These police matters should never be allowed to be politicized, as they are being done now.

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

He didn't claim that there were no injuries on the neck - can you not read? He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope, and this would indicate that he was dead before he was hanged.

[wilcopops]

You can hang yourself with your hgands tiued behind your back..there are established ways and reasons for doing this.

What the criminologist appears to imply is that it wasn't a hanging at all at least in the conventional sense

I don't see anyone suggesting this.

[AleG]

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

He didn't claim that there were no injuries on the neck - can you not read? He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope, and this would indicate that he was dead before he was hanged.

I can read, what I don't do is make things up; nowhere in the article he claims that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"

Here's again the relevant part:

"Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists."

Now, tell me where does he claim that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"? Or for that matter, where does he mention any type of lesion on the neck?

[sambum]

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

He didn't claim that there were no injuries on the neck - can you not read? He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope, and this would indicate that he was dead before he was hanged.

I can read, what I don't do is make things up; nowhere in the article he claims that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"

Here's again the relevant part:

"Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists."

Now, tell me where does he claim that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"? Or for that matter, where does he mention any type of lesion on the neck?

To say that the bruises should have appeared on his neck seems pretty clear to me that there were no bruises on his neck. Also to say (rather) than on his hands to me says that there were bruises on his wrists, but none on his neck, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

[AleG]

He didn't claim that there were no injuries on the neck - can you not read? He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope, and this would indicate that he was dead before he was hanged.

I can read, what I don't do is make things up; nowhere in the article he claims that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"

Here's again the relevant part:

"Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists."

Now, tell me where does he claim that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"? Or for that matter, where does he mention any type of lesion on the neck?

To say that the bruises should have appeared on his neck seems pretty clear to me that there were no bruises on his neck. Also to say (rather) than on his hands to me says that there were bruises on his wrists, but none on his neck, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

No, I´m not being obtuse, were does he mention any sort of lesion on the neck?

He says, or rather implies, there were no bruises on the neck, period. This: "He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope" is just your spin on what the article says, should I ask a second time were in the article it says what you claim it says or would you be less obtuse and admit it doesn't say what you claim it says?

[Willy Eckerslike]

Of course the fact that the reputable guy is factually wrong on a fundamental detail (he claiming there were no injuries on the neck) is of absolutely no consequence to you, is it?

He says something you agree with you and you don't feel the need to run it through the merest rudiments of critical thinking before accepting it.

He didn't claim that there were no injuries on the neck - can you not read? He claimed that the wounds on the neck were not bruises, and were not caused by the rope, and this would indicate that he was dead before he was hanged.

I can read, what I don't do is make things up; nowhere in the article he claims that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"

Here's again the relevant part:

"Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists."

Now, tell me where does he claim that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"? Or for that matter, where does he mention any type of lesion on the neck?

To say that the bruises should have appeared on his neck seems pretty clear to me that there were no bruises on his neck. Also to say (rather) than on his hands to me says that there were bruises on his wrists, but none on his neck, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Stop feeding him....it is obvious he does not know the difference between a bruise and a wound......................

[sambum]

Yes, you're right, Willy! "There's none so blind .......... " etc. etc. So get back to your business on Koh Tao AleG, there's money to be made! Have you not heard it's bursting at the seams! Oh, and don't hurry back - I for one won't miss you, and I think I'll go and talk to the wall instead.

[Rooo]

Enough with the bickering please.

[AleG]

I can read, what I don't do is make things up; nowhere in the article he claims that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"

Here's again the relevant part:

"Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists."

Now, tell me where does he claim that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"? Or for that matter, where does he mention any type of lesion on the neck?

To say that the bruises should have appeared on his neck seems pretty clear to me that there were no bruises on his neck. Also to say (rather) than on his hands to me says that there were bruises on his wrists, but none on his neck, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Stop feeding him....it is obvious he does not know the difference between a bruise and a wound......................

I know the difference between someone saying something and someone else claiming that person said something.

You want me to shut up? Tell me where in the article the Dr. says there is any kind of lesion (bruise or wound) on the man's neck; shouldn't be difficult, it's a short article. Since you seem to agree with sambum claims it should be very easy to point out where it says what he claims he says, no?

Here, let me help you:

BANGKOK: -- A criminologist has voiced his support for calls by media and relatives of a victim of suspected suicide by the police and forensic experts to look for more evidences to determine the exact cause of the death the victim.

The victim who was a tourist was found dead in his hotel room on New Year’s Day with his hands and neck tied to ropes. Police suspected he committed suicide by hanging himself.

But Associate Professor Charnkanit Krittiya Suriyamanee, a criminologist and lecturer at the faculty of social science and humanities of Mahidol University, said he doubted the suicide theory citing some irrelevant evidences.

He said that the victim had been drunk to the extent that he was unable to control himself, he would not have been able to tie himself up so tightly that he died of suffocation.

Had he hanged himself, the professor pointed out that the bruises should have appeared on the neck than on his wrists. Also, he noted that the several pieces of rope which were used in the suspected suicide appeared to be different which might suggest that the death was not caused by suicide.

The wound on the victim’s elbow could have been inflicted by someone else, he said.

He also suggested that it was not too late to check the level of alcohol in the body of the dead victim to find out if he was drunk or not.

Source: http://englishnews.t...-theory-tourist

Where does he say that "the wounds on the neck were not bruises"?

Yes, you're right, Willy! "There's none so blind .......... " etc. etc. So get back to your business on Koh Tao AleG, there's money to be made! Have you not heard it's bursting at the seams! Oh, and don't hurry back - I for one won't miss you, and I think I'll go and talk to the wall instead.

I don't have a business in Koh Tao, why do you make that up instead of answering a very simple question?

[DJVillain]

In your Farang countries you would probably say "case closed = good police job".

Why different in Thailand?

Oh sorry, I forgot: Dead Farang smells like a God was killed.

First and foremost; Thanks for recognising that us farang smell like Gods when we are killed... However, our aromas are far more sweet when we aren't being butchered with impunity by the natives of a country when we are on holiday.

Secondly; I will be using the British police and Scotland Yard as the rule of thumb in this example, but take it as you will... The difference between our 'farang countries' police forces (yeah, there are quite a few countries that are run by 'farang'... Care to narrow it down *just a touch*) and the so-called 'Land of Smiles' Boys in Blue is that our police tend to actually try and do their job and uncover all the possibilities of a crime until it is beyond all doubt... Not just try and sweep things under the rug, come up with the easiest excuse or squeeze a few thousand baht out of people for the 'best answer'...

The British police aren't famous for providing alibis for the rich and famous when crimes have been committed... The British police don't have a reputation for taking bribes, covering up and generally not giving a rats backside when crimes are committed against people who are not from Britain...

Its not because the farang is dead that people don't think the police of Thailand haven't done a good job...

Its because the police of Thailand havent done a good job that people think they havent done a good job

[vikingfromnorth]

In your Farang countries you would probably say "case closed = good police job".

Why different in Thailand?

Oh sorry, I forgot: Dead Farang smells like a God was killed.

Now I can recognize the thai attitude again : Thais dontl ike to be critizeised or told the thruth about how it is in their country with many things, ,

But let me tell you : Every day there is attacks o n" farangs" - from thais it is allways our own fault.. or it is Burmese or cambodians or some one other but it is NEVER thais who do something wrong wright ?

The problem in your country is that the police dont do anything to find out what is actually happened - they are scared what can hapens if it is a thai who did the crime.. because the whole populatio nare brainwashed from childhood.. how wodnerfull country they have and that they NEVER do something bad -

I can hear it on you - as soon some want to tell you the thruth - you get evvil " dead farang smells" you jump on peopels feeligns who has lost their dear which only wnated to go on holiday in the " land of smiles"

You country are rotten from bottom to top - it isn ot the people on the street I blame I meet many nice thais who is still my friends but the problem is that you DONT WANT to understand there are something wrong with your system it is as a south american banana republic with a growing crime rate -

No we dont pay a bribe to the police - that is corruption - as in your country - we pay it by tax and the police in our countries really try to do a HONEST JOB -

But it is notl ike that in your country which is pathetic and not very brigth people who run it.. to many hands wants to put money in their own pocket and they dont care about honesty and truth of fair play

One last question :

yo ucal lus from " farang country"

Can you mention 10 countries by name in Europe ?

Thais odnt know anything about the wolrd cause they dont learn anything and if there are something they dont understand they get angry agressive and violent primi´tive

goodbye Thailand you are o nthe way dont and you can blame only yourself !

[sambum]

In reply to AleG Post No # 267.

I'm sorry - I thought you mentioned in an earlier post that you did have business interests in Koh Tao, as well as friends in the RTP? I must be getting confused with JD or JTJ or some other member of the "Glee Club" as you are collectively known by a few posters here.Anyway, we have been warned by the moderators to stop bickering (I can't believe you didn't see that - had to get the last word in eh?) so I'm afraid that is the last comment from me to you on this thread, so no more posts please - I won't answer them. Have a nice day!

[AleG]

In reply to AleG Post No # 267.

I'm sorry - I thought you mentioned in an earlier post that you did have business interests in Koh Tao, as well as friends in the RTP? I must be getting confused with JD or JTJ or some other member of the "Glee Club" as you are collectively known by a few posters here.Anyway, we have been warned by the moderators to stop bickering (I can't believe you didn't see that - had to get the last word in eh?) so I'm afraid that is the last comment from me to you on this thread, so no more posts please - I won't answer them. Have a nice day!

You called me obtuse, Willy Eckerslike implies I'm a troll and I am the one bickering?

Your inability or unwillingness to answer a simple question is duly noted.