Tottenham Thread

[wilai]

All this talk of Liverpool having SAS in their forward line, that's nothing. Tottenham have LOL in midfield and <deleted> in defence!

[Sparkles]

AVB will of course be rolling in dosh with yet another pay out for getting the sack.Estimates vary from 10m quid up for stints at Chelsea and Spurs.

Sven is still the master. He has a real estate portfolio, including villas in Phuket, that would blow your mind. Google Wikipedia if you want to see his fortunes mounting.

Capello's name is being bandied about for Spurs,you wouldn't wish him on your worst enemy ...clown.

[uptheos]

AVB will of course be rolling in dosh with yet another pay out for getting the sack.Estimates vary from 10m quid up for stints at Chelsea and Spurs.

Sven is still the master. He has a real estate portfolio, including villas in Phuket, that would blow your mind. Google Wikipedia if you want to see his fortunes mounting.

Capello's name is being bandied about for Spurs,you wouldn't wish him on your worst enemy ...clown.

SAF has shortened from 100 to 66/1

[Chicog]

Paolo Di Canio is free....

[StevieH]

john gregory just took the job at crawley town unfortunately.

[Exsexyman]

Redknap.

Ramos. Jol. Santini. Graham.

Pleat. Hoddle.

Gross. Hughton. Francis. Villas- Boas.

So what is this, a Spurs team using the 4-2-4 system?

No, it's the number of managers Spurs have had since Wenger took over at Arsenal!

[stoneyboy]

Funny As.

[smokie36]

Do 1 the lot of ya.

[MrRed]

Do 1 the lot of ya.

cnx ian

rijit

carmine

Alfie

smokie?

Just like your lot have done Smokes.....your the only one left standing

I do miss my playthings

At least you have stayed on to front it for the lot of them .........Do you know has Alfie changed his photo yet? I wonder who it will be next

[smokie36]

Not much to be said....AVB has left a royal mess behind and a tough job for Tim Sherwood to sort out.

All we can hope is the players respond....but life goes on at the Lane as always.....we're still in the hunt for top four!

[MrRed]

Do any of you lot apportion any blame to Baldini and Levy in all this or are all the players you spent Bales money on down to AVB?

Seems to me Levy's position at the top and Baldini's technical direction skills are unapproachable at Spurs.

A good piece here from Sam Wallace of the Independent.

What little power Andre Villas-Boas commanded among the Tottenham Hotspur hierarchy had crumbled away when yesterday the club made the swift decision that time was up for the modern young coach with the big ideas.

The call was made by chairman Daniel Levy following a meeting with Villas-Boas and the technical director Franco Baldini. It is Baldini who has overseen the investment of almost £110m in seven new players but the feeling within the club, as the team were crushed 5-0 at home by Liverpool was that change was needed - and the most obvious change was the manager.

For a club that started the new season on a crest of a wave after an unprecedented level of investment in seven new players, the falling away since then has been dramatic. Just 103 days after Gareth Bale's departure to Real Madrid, his former manager has been sacked and Spurs find themselves looking at an interim appointment until the end of the season.

Tim Sherwood will take the team against West Ham in the Capital One Cup quarter-finals tomorrow night, the beginning of what the club hope will be a stint in charge taking him to the end of the season. Sherwood could yet make the job his own on a permanent basis, although whether he is compatible in the long-term with Baldini remains to be seen.

Villas-Boas' long-term successor will have to buy into the vision created by Baldini and Levy which has at its heart the seven players bought in the summer. That policy of reinvesting the money from the Bale transfer simply has to be made to work. Those players will have to play.

The conversation that eventually led to Villas-Boas' exit surrounded Emmanuel Adebayor, a player whom Villas-Boas has picked for just 45 minutes of football this season — the second half of the 6-0 defeat to Manchester City. But in the meantime there have been suggestions that he had not been happy with some of the seven players brought in this summer.

The most notable of those has been the Argentine Erik Lamela, who arrived for a record pnds30m deal from Roma the former club of the Spurs technical director. Baldini, Fabio Capello's general manager during his time in charge of the England team, is convinced of the qualities of Lamela. That tension has been growing for some time.

By the last few days of his time in charge, Villas-Boas found himself isolated within the club with just Luis Martins, Jose Maria Rocha and Daniel Sousa, the Portuguese assistants he brought with him, still part of the inner circle. His relationship with Steffen Freund, his German assistant, had become so testy that the two men no longer sat alongside one another on the bench.
Of the seven players who came to Spurs in the summer, only Roberto Soldado was expressly Villas-Boas' choice. The pnds26m forward has struggled, especially in the league, and at 28 does not fit the age profile of the club's buying policy. The club have long maintained that the summer's acquisition policy was, on the whole, a collegiate effort between board and head coach, the official title given to Villas-Boas.

Having originally tried to placate the young coach, who has a tendency, from his Chelsea days, to imagine the world is against him, Baldini was among those who agreed that he had to go. The manager's future has been a matter of discussion at the club for some time with the only significant obstacle to his removal the question of who would replace him.

Curiously, Villas-Boas never fallen out irrevocably with his players, as he did with many at Chelsea. While there were a few grumblers, like Adebayor, completely frozen out until half-time in the 6-0 defeat to Manchester City, the Spurs players generally liked and accepted his methods. The team were only five points off fourth with 16 games played but the scale of the defeats to Manchester City and then Liverpool on Sunday, has contributed to Villas-Boas' sacking.

Villas-Boas' hint at Sunday's post-match press conference that the new players have not been his choice further imperilled him. His criticism of the home fans at White Hart Lane after the win over Hull City has not helped, given how conscious Levy and the club are of the way they are perceived by supporters. The team's failure to score goals, they have managed just 15 goals in 16 leagues, has been a major contributing factor.

A manager under this kind of pressure might have handled the scrutiny better but Villas-Boas has decided to meet it head on, confronting critics in the press and reacting to comments from the former chairman Alan Sugar. Whatever the merits of this approach, it has evidently not gone down well with the Spurs board.

Nevertheless, there remain concerns in some quarters about the quality of the signings Baldini has made, and that they would have been better served buying two elite-level players rather than seven of roughly the same quality. None of those seven — with the possible exception of Paulinho — have established themselves as obvious first team regulars. Additionally, Sandro was rushed back too quickly from injury and broke down again on Sunday.

Outside of Villas-Boas' staff, the key figure at the training ground is Sherwood. He oversees the development squads with Chris Ramsey and the former Spurs striker Les Ferdinand. There is also the former captain Ledley King who remains a presence at the training ground where he is doing his coaching badges.

None of them have had any involvement with the first team until now, other than developing players from their junior teams to work with the senior squad. It was Villas-Boas' way to do all the coaching, even to the exclusion of Freund and his Portuguese assistants. It will be a very different approach from Sherwood, for a newly-assembled squad that had hardly started to settle in under their previous manager.

[BangrakBob]

Good read. I hope The Great Baldini has got some more targets lined up in January.

AVB has to be the highest placed manager in history to get the arse after 16 games, another record broken.

Edited December 18, 2013 by BangrakBob

[uptheos]

Good read. I hope The Great Baldini has got some more targets lined up in January.

AVB has to be the highest placed manager in history to get the arse after 16 games, another record broken.

I think he would dearly like to out a few that he brought in, but to do so would mean hefty losses IF anyone is interested.

So, I think they will go with what they have and if Sherwood can't bring them to life, then I guess he's out of the running.

[rixalex]

Good read. I hope The Great Baldini has got some more targets lined up in January.

AVB has to be the highest placed manager in history to get the arse after 16 games, another record broken.

They say the league never lies but I think at times it tells a few fibs.

Spurs might have been doing well in the league but the way they were playing football, the way they weren't scoring goals, the way their biggest signing wasn't being played, the way they were losing high profile games with utter capitulation and embarrassment, told a very different tale.

Not that I think he should have been fired, just that I think purely looking at the table position is a bit misleading in Spur's case.

[wilai]

Good read. I hope The Great Baldini has got some more targets lined up in January.

AVB has to be the highest placed manager in history to get the arse after 16 games, another record broken.

Think poor old Di Matteo still holds that one Bob.

[Chicog]

Good read. I hope The Great Baldini has got some more targets lined up in January.

AVB has to be the highest placed manager in history to get the arse after 16 games, another record broken.

Not sure that makes sense. Clough got the sack from Leeds after 44 days, but they were losing hand over fist to get him kicked out.

Redknapp got the sack from the Spuds when they'd finished 4th I think.

(Sidenote: The tiny totts were looking at Moyes after they binned 'Arry. They should really be grateful).

[wilai]

^ Chelski were in 3rd when DM lost his game of Russian Roulette

[BangrakBob]

^^ Jesus yeah right, i didn't consider those guys

[MrRed]

(Sidenote: The tiny totts were looking at Moyes after they binned 'Arry. They should really be grateful).

What reason are they to be grateful?

[Chicog]

(Sidenote: The tiny totts were looking at Moyes after they binned 'Arry. They should really be grateful).

What reason are they to be grateful?

Is that a rhetorical question or are you being facetious?

[Chicog]

Seriously guys, someone go and knock on carmine's door, there might still be time to save him.

[MrRed]

(Sidenote: The tiny totts were looking at Moyes after they binned 'Arry. They should really be grateful).

What reason are they to be grateful?

Is that a rhetorical question or are you being facetious?

It is what it is ........Moyes has already won one piece of silverware this season and is involved in every competition there is to be in unbeaten in Europe as well.....to bring Moyes in probably would of done them a lot more good than AVB.

I think you should concern yourself with how badly your team is performing don't you, what is it three games without a win or four?

[sumrit]

Seriously guys, someone go and knock on carmine's door, there might still be time to save him.

I wouldn't worry too much about Carmine, he's on here looking regularly. Just doesn't want to show himself yet. He was last looking just over a hour ago.

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[wilai]

Will be back tomorrow.....if the spuds beat West Ham?

[BangrakBob]

It's like the away fans have taken over the whole south stand in here

[Soi Sauce]

Let's save all the prattle and put it in a nutshell;

The totts had a crap man-manager with no knowledge of tactics, as exposed at Chelsea.

Badini is a crap technical director with no knowledge of players, as shown by the crap players he bought for inflated prices.

Levy is a crap owner with no knowledge of football, as proven by the fact he recruited the above two idiots.

Not hard to see why the cocks are in such a sad state and saying that 5 points off 4th place is an achievment. It isn't.

Nuff said.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Soi Sauce

[Soi Sauce]

It's like the away fans have taken over the whole south stand in here

Well, LIverpool's and West Ham's players recently took over the whole of the tottnam pitch; why not the fans take the stands next?

[MrRed]

I think the Spurs boys have been treated with kid gloves by us regular posters here,if Singher or Imola were still about then it would of been crucifying especially if they don't beat the hammers tonight.

Interesting to see Tim Sherwood's formation over the next couple of games because there is no doubt he is a contender for the job at least this season where they still at the moment are in every comp they entered.

[uptheos]

I think the Spurs boys have been treated with kid gloves by us regular posters here,if Singher or Imola were still about then it would of been crucifying especially if they don't beat the hammers tonight.

Interesting to see Tim Sherwood's formation over the next couple of games because there is no doubt he is a contender for the job at least this season where they still at the moment are in every comp they entered.

The Mail: Tim Sherwood will give striker Emmanuel Adebayor another chance at Tottenham after he was frozen out by sacked manager Andre Villas-Boas. It is understood the striker is in the squad for Wednesday’s Capital One Cup quarter-final against West Ham.

Mind you it is The Mail, who said Bale would definitely leave and AVB's job was in jeopardy, so take it with a pinch of salt.

[Chicog]

(Sidenote: The tiny totts were looking at Moyes after they binned 'Arry. They should really be grateful).

What reason are they to be grateful?

Is that a rhetorical question or are you being facetious?

It is what it is ........Moyes has already won one piece of silverware this season and is involved in every competition there is to be in unbeaten in Europe as well.....to bring Moyes in probably would of done them a lot more good than AVB.

I think you should concern yourself with how badly your team is performing don't you, what is it three games without a win or four?

Not concerned at all. I don't see you above us.