...has anyone got extra knowledge of this terrible thing, as shown in the video? Or defence of Indonesia?

(And again, it looks like American interference as the root cause....any refutation of that?)

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=806074989466525&set=vb.381635185243843&type=2&theater

By "root cause", I presume you are referring to the period of 1963 and earlier? Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.

I won't even try to refute it or get into a wordy contest with you on the "root causes". It would appear your mind is already made up.

More currently, you seem to have overlooked the comment about $1 Billion coming from Australia and the poster pleading with Abbott to help solve the problem. Why is that?

Blame the US if you want. I doubt anybody really cares who you blame.

Based on most of his posts, you have a very legitimate point.

Something bad happening somewhere in the world.

Quick, got to mention Israel too.

Talk about OBSESSION!

By "root cause", I presume you are referring to the period of 1963 and earlier? Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.

I won't even try to refute it or get into a wordy contest with you on the "root causes". It would appear your mind is already made up.

More currently, you seem to have overlooked the comment about $1 Billion coming from Australia and the poster pleading with Abbott to help solve the problem. Why is that?

Blame the US if you want. I doubt anybody really cares who you blame.

Always the glass half empty guy.

Or is it a reading comprehension problem?

My mind is not made up, that is why I have appealed for input. Seems obvious. That is why I asked if there is refutation....would it have made you a little less pessimistic if I had worded it thus, "Can anyone please disprove this nasty anti-American allegation?". That would do too as that is essentially what I was asking in seeking refutation.

I am sure there are TVers who are familiar with Indonesia from the inside, not just readers of news, although readers of news' views will be appreciated too.

The video is my first and only source of information on this subject thus far. Hence asking if there are alternate or confirming views.

The subject matter, that of genocide, is important for humanity.

Cheer up, grumpiness is bad for your health.

Something bad happening somewhere in the world.

Quick, got to mention Israel too.

Talk about OBSESSION!

Yes, your obsession. I'm truly surprised that you didn't claim the title of this thread was anti-semitic.

I thought you had me on "ignore", mores the pity that you couldn't help yourself replying because you added nothing to the thread but ill-feeling.

By "root cause", I presume you are referring to the period of 1963 and earlier? Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.

I won't even try to refute it or get into a wordy contest with you on the "root causes". It would appear your mind is already made up.

More currently, you seem to have overlooked the comment about $1 Billion coming from Australia and the poster pleading with Abbott to help solve the problem. Why is that?

Blame the US if you want. I doubt anybody really cares who you blame.

Always the glass half empty guy.

Or is it a reading comprehension problem?

My mind is not made up, that is why I have appealed for input. Seems obvious. That is why I asked if there is refutation....would it have made you a little less pessimistic if I had worded it thus, "Can anyone please disprove this nasty anti-American allegation?". That would do too as that is essentially what I was asking in seeking refutation.

I am sure there are TVers who are familiar with Indonesia from the inside, not just readers of news, although readers of news' views will be appreciated too.

The video is my first and only source of information on this subject thus far. Hence asking if there are alternate or confirming views.

The subject matter, that of genocide, is important for humanity.

Cheer up, grumpiness is bad for your health.

".would it have made you a little less pessimistic if I had worded it thus, "Can anyone please disprove this nasty anti-American allegation?"."

If you had worded it that way, you might have received the response you now claim you were looking for..

But you didn't word it that way...did you.

By "root cause", I presume you are referring to the period of 1963 and earlier? Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.

I won't even try to refute it or get into a wordy contest with you on the "root causes". It would appear your mind is already made up.

More currently, you seem to have overlooked the comment about $1 Billion coming from Australia and the poster pleading with Abbott to help solve the problem. Why is that?

Blame the US if you want. I doubt anybody really cares who you blame.

Always the glass half empty guy.

Or is it a reading comprehension problem?

My mind is not made up, that is why I have appealed for input. Seems obvious. That is why I asked if there is refutation....would it have made you a little less pessimistic if I had worded it thus, "Can anyone please disprove this nasty anti-American allegation?". That would do too as that is essentially what I was asking in seeking refutation.

I am sure there are TVers who are familiar with Indonesia from the inside, not just readers of news, although readers of news' views will be appreciated too.

The video is my first and only source of information on this subject thus far. Hence asking if there are alternate or confirming views.

The subject matter, that of genocide, is important for humanity.

Cheer up, grumpiness is bad for your health.

".would it have made you a little less pessimistic if I had worded it thus, "Can anyone please disprove this nasty anti-American allegation?"."

If you had worded it that way, you might have received the response you now claim you were looking for..

But you didn't word it that way...did you.

".....(is there) any refutation of that?"

As I said, always glass half empty.

I have read that the older one gets, the more cynical one gets. That wouldn't apply in your case, would it?

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I have read that the older one gets, the more cynical one gets. That wouldn't apply in your case, would it?

No. surprisingly not.

What age does bring is the freedom to cut through BS so much quicker than before and voice my opinion about it.

Hence, my responses to your posts appear from time to time.

Well, considering that there is no BS in any of my posts, least of all the posts in this thread, I'd have to conclude that, if as you assert you're not a cynic, then you must just be a grumpy man looking to find fault.

Back to topic......

Similar in many ways to East Timor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trials_of_Henry_Kissinger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLtTjzxuE8I

. Cool. Me being a glass-half-full guy, I assume you've had a look in the mirror and have come around to see the humour in your attitude, and are having a bit of a giggle at yourself.

Cool......It's so much better to laugh than to be grumpy.

I'm happy for you.

Something bad happening somewhere in the world.

Quick, got to mention Israel too.

Talk about OBSESSION!

not mentioned often enough!

Is SeaStallion the former Harcourt?

Most countries in the World today are no different to their savage past of yesterday . . . the only difference is they have iphones.

Australia is the known western power in the archepolo and Indonesia by virtue of size, population and military is the most powerful country in the Asian by all definition a sleeping dog that needs not be angered. The USA may have backed Sukarno and Suharto and habibi so on and so forthe Indo is rich in minerals and natural resources, the Dutch lost a cash cow after WWII and it has been for sale to the highest bidder ever since. The radical Muslim is a very small % percentage of the total population.