Lite Beer Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 PM vows to uphold democracy, with Thai featuresTHE NATION BANGKOK: -- PRIME Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha vowed yesterday that he was building democracy for the country - but said it would not be 100 per cent like democracy in Western countries.Speaking at the opening ceremony for an essay contest promoting the Twelve Core Values, Prayut said he was aware that his government was installed by undemocratic means."Although I took power in this way [coup], I understand democratic means and we will not fail democracy. We will take care of the people well and equally," he said.People would be able to access justice equally and fairly, he said. "Please be confident in the existing justice system," he said. "We have to reduce conflicts and stay away from them," he said, "I myself from now on will never talk about anything to ignite conflict."Reporters should also ask less questions about this [conflict]. It's useless. For anything that has already proceeded to the justice system, you should ask the question there," he said. "If you ask me and I answer, there will be some problems," he said.He said his government was laying the fundamental groundwork for the future of the country and trying to solve problems from the past."I chair countless committees to take care of all aspects - economic, finance, fiscal and education. I need to explain to the public what I have done for one hour every Friday. Hopefully, it will not bother people too much. I might take your time from TV soap operas but you can follow them on YouTube later, so please listen to me - you will understand," he said."If you want something from the government, please wait until the elected government comes in and ask them," he said. "So, next time, please elect a good government into power. Today, we are now moving toward democracy but we also need to enforce the law, which will never cause trouble for you unless you do something wrong," Prayut said."If you understand the situation, I think the majority can accept this," he said. "Democracy is the best, but how do we make our democracy move forward? We have to put Thai elements into the democracy, but it will not contradict international values," he said."Well, having to come out to show a three finger salute is a crisis, so why don't we translate that crisis into opportunities," he said. "Protest, yes, you can protest, but don't bring a bomb or an M-16 onto the street. That should not be part of democracy," he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/PM-vows-to-uphold-democracy-with-Thai-features-30256456.html -- The Nation 2015-03-21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tbthailand Posted March 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2015 Orwell would be vomiting on his shoes right now... 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted March 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2015 " Although I TOOK power this way ( coup ) I understand democracy ... " Cue Music - " But through it all I stood tall and did it My Way " 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExPratt Posted March 20, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2015 Democracy Lite ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 "We have to put Thai elements into the democracy" Appointed Senate Appointed PM Appointed EC Appointed NACC Appointed CC Appointed Judges Appointed Top Bureaucrats Appointed State Board Members Appointed Reform Committee (after election) Appointed People's Assembly (after election) ...and one neutered, gerrymandered elected House of Representatives who do none of the appointing. That is a lot of Thai element and very little democracy. 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 That will be a democracy Thai (gangnam ) style.. with som tam and khow niew on the side.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Orwell would be vomiting on his shoes right now... "Thai style" means he will have no shoes on. He took them off at the steps to the meeting hall. So we can all breathe a sigh of relief, the shoes are OK. Three cheers for "Thainess". Or is 2 or four cheers more appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Orwell would be vomiting on his shoes right now... "Thai style" means he will have no shoes on. He took them off at the steps to the meeting hall. So we can all breathe a sigh of relief, the shoes are OK. Three cheers for "Thainess". Or is 2 or four cheers more appropriate? Three "Chaiyo's" and a shot of Lao Khao thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExPratt Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "We have to put Thai elements into the democracy" Appointed Senate Appointed PM Appointed EC Appointed NACC Appointed CC Appointed Judges Appointed Top Bureaucrats Appointed State Board Members Appointed Reform Committee (after election) Appointed People's Assembly (after election) ...and one neutered, gerrymandered elected House of Representatives who do none of the appointing. That is a lot of Thai element and very little democracy. Can't see it working without an appointed electorate 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 He is fixated on "western" democracy. Does not even bother acknowledging certain Asian countries have viable, representative governments. His preachy, bossy tone is nauseating as well. The westerner lovers of all things coup have been rather quiet as of late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 "Thai features." We all know what this means. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Commerce Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 "Reporters should also ask less questions about this [conflict]. It's useless. For anything that has already proceeded to the justice system, you should ask the question there," he said. "If you ask me and I answer, there will be some problems," he said. Too right there'd be problems. Basically, because you don't know what you're talking about and you'd utter unbelievable statements! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chainarong Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "We have to put Thai elements into the democracy" Appointed Senate Appointed PM Appointed EC Appointed NACC Appointed CC Appointed Judges Appointed Top Bureaucrats Appointed State Board Members Appointed Reform Committee (after election) Appointed People's Assembly (after election) ...and one neutered, gerrymandered elected House of Representatives who do none of the appointing. That is a lot of Thai element and very little democracy. Democracy is okay , the Thai interpretation is a worry. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 "We have to reduce conflicts and stay away from them," he said. We do not all think the same way and it is impossible to achieve a society where they do short of mass hallucination or drugging the entire populace. Conflicts are going to happen if people are not allowed differing points of view and are free to air them. They are going to happen if politicians, the law and other groups are allowed to do as they please with no fear of consequences. They are going to happen if political parties rule in favour of their faction of the elite and not the country. What the country needs is a free and fair judicial system and a political system that is bound by the laws. All need to know that if they break the law or abuse power they are going to gaol. No matter who they are. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 The most ridiculous part of the whole speech is saying please have confidence in the existing justice system!! The judiciary was one of the main areas where reform was desperately needed, you just have to look at the sentencing/fines/non sentencing/bail's etc etc to see how inept and desperately needed reform is needed. You could have the best police force in the world, but if the judiciary is incompetent/corrupt/inept/immoral/can be influenced etc then having those best police is completely worthless. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 "We have to reduce conflicts and stay away from them," he said. We do not all think the same way and it is impossible to achieve a society where they do short of mass hallucination or drugging the entire populace. Conflicts are going to happen if people are not allowed differing points of view and are free to air them. They are going to happen if politicians, the law and other groups are allowed to do as they please with no fear of consequences. They are going to happen if political parties rule in favour of their faction of the elite and not the country. What the country needs is a free and fair judicial system and a political system that is bound by the laws. All need to know that if they break the law or abuse power they are going to gaol. No matter who they are. We know who "they" are, and "they" do not want to be held accountable for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 I still think democracy is overrated, here in Thailand as in other countries I believe an iron fist is required to keep these uneducated, undisciplined masses in check, and that includes the hisos. Should this country advance with quality education and the other ingredients to create a truly modern society, then democracy is of course a key component of modernisation. Problem with this philosophy is that the people who have the power to guide the country on a path to the modern world are too busy looking after themselves and their cronies. Now thats a familiar scenario isn't it! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DM07 Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 Again: "Blah...and blah...and even more blah..." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 >>People would be able to access justice equally and fairly, he said. "Please be confident in the existing justice system," he said. << Quote A justice system where people are abducted and/or sentenced behind closed doors in military courts!! Sure that invokes a lot of confidence. Am I the only one? Whenever I here about "the 12 core values" , I want to throw up!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeedwards Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 BANGKOK: -- PRIME Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha vowed yesterday that he was building democracy for the country - but said it would not be 100 per cent like democracy in Western countries. So not democracy then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dragonfly94 Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 All Thai are equal but some are more equal than others 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 " Although I TOOK power this way ( coup ) I understand democracy ... " Cue Music - " But through it all I stood tall and did it My Way " How dare you- that was the anthem of the Las Vegas Mafia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Can you say, "Third world?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> "We have to put Thai elements into the democracy" Appointed Senate Appointed PM Appointed EC Appointed NACC Appointed CC Appointed Judges Appointed Top Bureaucrats Appointed State Board Members Appointed Reform Committee (after election) Appointed People's Assembly (after election) ...and one neutered, gerrymandered elected House of Representatives who do none of the appointing. That is a lot of Thai element and very little democracy. Democracy is okay , the Thai interpretation is a worry. Western style democracy (for Thailand) is concerning, a sprinkling of Thainess is reassuring!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 I still think democracy is overrated, here in Thailand as in other countries I believe an iron fist is required to keep these uneducated, undisciplined masses in check, and that includes the hisos. Should this country advance with quality education and the other ingredients to create a truly modern society, then democracy is of course a key component of modernisation. Problem with this philosophy is that the people who have the power to guide the country on a path to the modern world are too busy looking after themselves and their cronies. Now thats a familiar scenario isn't it! The 1800's called. They want their repressed attitudes back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 " Although I TOOK power this way ( coup ) I understand democracy ... " Cue Music - " But through it all I stood tall and did it My Way " Cue Music - " But through it all I stood tall and did it My Thai Way " 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Compared with earlier statements made by him I finally got it: only a 100% democracy is a trap. If I subtract 10 % for each point bruce64 mentioned in his post there is nothing left to be named- unless you accept "Cryness" for a Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oneday Posted March 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2015 "...Thai features..." Ah, those would be the UNDEMOCRATIC PARTS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry123 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 BANGKOK: -- PRIME Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha vowed yesterday that he was building democracy for the country - but said it would not be 100 per cent like democracy in Western countries. So not democracy then. correct like the man said not 100% but who wants that anyway ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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