How do i report an english school

[madr0x]

i have just finished 4 months of my 1 year course with *** School name removed by SlyAnimal as per name & shame rule***

i have paid for a 1 year 200 hour course and so far they have delivered 8 hours

how do i report the school?

is there a chance id get my money back?

im pretty sure there breaching some major laws, as the stamp for the ed visa is issued by the thai education board

on the privisal that im learning for at least 8 hours a week and that im actually learning, this is not the case for me not through y own choice but through the choice of the school, who have effectively robbed me

any advice

[nzexpat]

Why not try the Police station if you believe you are the victim of criminal activity !

[Mario2008]

Schools are certified by the Ministry of Education, you could complain to them or to immigration. Another possibility is the Consumer Protection Board.

http://www.ocpb.go.th/ewtadmin/ewt/ocpb_eng/main.php?filename=index___EN

[blackcab]

Some excellent advice here. I am interested to hear how this ends up. Please keep us updated.

[konying]

Call 1111, they will either pass it on to relevant agency or advise who to contact

[bigt3116]

If you have been there for 4 months, you have already done your first extension of stay with them ? So you are happy to have the extension but want to report the lack of lessons ? Surely you should have left before doing the extension if the school is that bad ? (And then tried to get your money back, because at the moment, you are an enrolled and extended student).

Also, 8 hours a week does not equate to 200 hours a year :-)

And you should not be working on an ED visa/extension of stay ?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/823395-website-designer-do-you-need-a-website/?view=findpost&p=9381575

[madr0x]

If you have been there for 4 months, you have already done your first extension of stay with them ? So you are happy to have the extension but want to report the lack of lessons ? Surely you should have left before doing the extension if the school is that bad ? (And then tried to get your money back, because at the moment, you are an enrolled and extended student).

Also, 8 hours a week does not equate to 200 hours a year :-)

And you should not be working on an ED visa/extension of stay ?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/823395-website-designer-do-you-need-a-website/?view=findpost&p=9381575

ive done my first extension yes and i did it as i had to get my extension to stay, but i am very unhappy i though ill get the extension talk to them and everything will be better and its worse its gone from a few hours a week to none

i can add mate i know the math what im saying is this is what i paid for and this is what im getting

im not working

[madr0x]

outrageous! a language school providing lessons! what new hoops will ED visa holders be forced to endure. all the bars will go broke.

umm the issue is that there not providing the lessons and i actually want to learn thai

[bigt3116]

Sorry, but this sure looks like working to me ? Maybe you should have followed the link to your own post from yesterday before saying you were not working :-)

Posted Yesterday, 17:51

I have worked in web design for the last 6 years i have many clients in Thailand and im looking to increase my portfolio

I am a specialist in CMS WORDPRESS-MAGENTO-DURPAL-BOONEX websites, so you can self manage the content

websites from 20,000+

monthly maintenance/management from 2,000+ per month

i do high class websites for all business sizes, regardless of your needs i can help

currently im developing a business site all inquiries are welcome

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/823395-website-designer-do-you-need-a-website/#entry9381575

I posted the link to your post again :-)

[JohnOFphon]

Busted by "Big3116"

[gk10002000]

Busted by "Big3116"

It sure seems like the OP is working in Thailand, and is also going to a language school. If working, he is supposed to have the proper permits which I doubt he has. So it looks like he is getting his extension of stay by "attending" a language school. Tsk tsk. But it does bring up the issue of how somebody that may act as a consultant or provide short-term on and off services to clients in Thailand could get a proper work permit. I assume there are software consulting firms all over Thailand that might be able to accommodate such a thing and the OP could get a work permit from them? Of course that would bring up payroll issues, and whether the OP is actually an employee of the agency versus getting paid directly from the Client firm.

[gk10002000]

I guess the OP could open a business, but doesn't that require hiring Thais, so many million baht, etc? Is there a mechanism for a consultant IT type of handyman to get proper work setup in Thailand?

[madr0x]

Sorry, but this sure looks like working to me ? Maybe you should have followed the link to your own post from yesterday before saying you were not working :-)

Posted Yesterday, 17:51

I have worked in web design for the last 6 years i have many clients in Thailand and im looking to increase my portfolio

I am a specialist in CMS WORDPRESS-MAGENTO-DURPAL-BOONEX websites, so you can self manage the content

websites from 20,000+

monthly maintenance/management from 2,000+ per month

i do high class websites for all business sizes, regardless of your needs i can help

currently im developing a business site all inquiries are welcome

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/823395-website-designer-do-you-need-a-website/#entry9381575

I posted the link to your post again :-)

I did read my post, i made it so i know what it says and no i didnt apply for a ED visa so i could work on the sly surely that would negate the reason i made this post??

also in your first reply you said if the school is that bad...i didnt say the school was bad or good i just said ive paid for this and this is what ive received so far....I just want to learn Thai

i have a post in the forum yes, as i think it makes sense if you are looking at issues with your current visa and want to stay to at least research the area you want to work in, all sites on the list were completed while i was in my home country, my visa is to important to mess about with. As per the end of the post its all developmental to see if there is interest if there is i can look into that avenue of employment

so any chance we can get back on point of the post.....advice on non delivery of hours from a language school

[bigt3116]

As for the issue of not getting what you have paid for with the language school, you may well just have to bite the bullet and accept the loss of that money. I think it would be close to impossible to get a refund, especially in a place that is well know for being run by a few "families".

The other option would be to just let it be, and hope that the lessons do start to materialize.

[balo]

Maybe the OP is just a digital nomad like the rest of us? if he do not receive his earnings in Thailand but overseas working online he is one of many here . The language school is a different matter.

[madr0x]

 

Maybe the OP is just a digital nomad like the rest of us? if he do not receive his earnings in Thailand but overseas working online he is one of many here . The language school is a different matter.

 

Exactly

[shirtless]

You should be quiet as you have no work permit quit while your ahead

[willyumiii]

TV is such a secure web site that the labor department and Thai Immigration can never monitor the post here on TV!

Maybe they are just sitting there , smiling and waiting for you to come in and file a complaint about your school who is breaking the laws?

Go give it a try

[MarkTS]

TV is such a secure web site that the labor department and Thai Immigration can never monitor the post here on TV!

Maybe they are just sitting there , smiling and waiting for you to come in and file a complaint about your school who is breaking the laws?

Go give it a try:whistling:

OR...

as bigt3116 so astutely researched and pointed out, the Labor Ministry (it's not a department) is just sitting there, smiling and waiting for you to come in so they can address the illegal work done by the OP.

[bigt3116]

Maybe the OP is just a digital nomad like the rest of us? if he do not receive his earnings in Thailand but overseas working online he is one of many here . The language school is a different matter.

It does not matter where you are paid, or even if you are paid, the important fact is that the work is done whilst in Thailand on an Ed Visa/extension of stay.

[redandyellow]

Sorry to hear about this. There are so many damned scammers about - in and out of the LOS

[FritsSikkink]

 

Maybe the OP is just a digital nomad like the rest of us? if he do not receive his earnings in Thailand but overseas working online he is one of many here . The language school is a different matter.

 

Exactly

You are working in Thailand an don't pay any tax here. this is illegal. Better stay quit about the lessons. A bit late too if you start complaining after 8 hours of lessons after 4 months. Should be complaining after week 3.

More from you:

http://freelancing.stackexchange.com/questions/2907/keeping-up-with-client-work-and-emails/2963#2963

I run a web design company in Phuket Thailand, initally you costs need to be reflective of you area (geographical) at home (UK) id charge £400+ for a wordpress site buy here im lucky to get £250 - £300

wordpress sites are less costly as they take less time to develop from your end as all you really doing is taking a template and customising it as opposed to sitting in a room for hours typing out endless streams of HTML

I work on a 35% down to cover theme costs setup charges as i help with domain name purchases - hosting purchases i pretty much take care of everything for the client, this is a good and bad thing in some way as i have complete control over the project and its online presence - however i would not advise taking a contract for less than 35% down

Maintenance is better done as a monthly but to show good faith i usually say if anything goes wrong in the first moth ill take care of it, but i do provide a pdf on how to use the wordpress backend to limit the amount of times im called upon - i have 15 clients that i work with and i get a ton of referral work mainly due to the support and costs i operate on

Maintenance is general upkeep of the site (monthly) redesigns are one off payments and generally cover the entire of the site or at least and good proportion of them

I hope this helps Gareth

[Scott]

Off topic posts and replies removed.

[falkan]

Phuket Ombudsman have office in Phuket Town, report to them?!

[paz]

as bigt3116 so astutely researched and pointed out, the Labor Ministry (it's not a department) is just sitting there, smiling and waiting for you to come in so they can address the illegal work done by the OP.

Labor minister doesn't care about illegal workers, of which there are millions in Thailand.

[SlyAnimal]

I'm not sure who you'd report them to, however I've removed the school's name from your post as we don't allow "name & shame" posts on Thaivisa due to Thailand's strict defamation laws.

[anotheruser]

We all know who the language school is anyway.

[nidieunimaitre]

We all know who the language school is anyway.

I do not.

And like most people here on this forum I know only 1 language school.

Please clarify.