Ukrainians arrested for allegedly using fake ATM cards

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Ukrainians nabbed over ATM scam
The Nation



CHIANG MAI: -- Three Ukrainians were arrested for allegedly using fake electronic cards to withdraw Bt1.5 million from ATMs in Chiang Mai's Muang district, police announced Wednesday.

Yevhen Vorontsev, 36; Andrii Herashohenko, 23; and Dmytro Kuchin, 20; were arrested on Tuesday afternoon in three separate locations, while their compatriot accomplice identified as Dmyteo Vlad, 31, is still at large.

Police investigation found that these suspects had allegedly used skimmer devices to copy other ATM card information onto fake cards, which they then used to withdraw cash in 1,000 occasions.

However, they only managed to get money out 162 times totalling Bt1.58 million. They allegedly told police that they had sent the money back to Ukraine.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Ukrainians-nabbed-over-ATM-scam-30265538.html


-- The Nation 2015-07-29

[steven100]

Those pesky Ukrainians are at it again .... lock em up.

[krisb]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

[jacko45k]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

I read it that they tried to use the cards 1000 times but only successfully got money 162 times.

( I have my Thai press translator turned on)

Edited July 30, 2015 by jacko45k

[mikebell]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

They attempted on 1000 occasions but were successful 162 times. I make it 9753.08642 per successful attempt?

[catman20]

lock um up until the money is retuned from the Ukraine.

[shaurene]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

They attempted to withdraw from 1,000 places but only managed to get money out of 162. The other 838 places probably did not dispense any cash.

[shaurene]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

They did not withdraw 1,000 times they attempted and succeeded 162 times. You need to read it more carefully.

[krisb]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

They did not withdraw 1,000 times they attempted and succeeded 162 times. You need to read it more carefully.

No, it says they withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it says 162 times.

[hobobo]

Success rate is 16.2 percent, simple. Average withdrawal 9,750 Baht per successful attempt. Amateurs!

[little mary sunshine]

Throw these nasty bastardized.. In prison for two

Years, than deport them. The rest of the trash will

Soon go elsewhere with theirs thieving ways

[Barin]

Oh, Ukrainians again and again!

Probably there are thousands of them in Thailand that still continue this fraudulent activity and never get caught.

[sabaii69]

Greedy got em'. Dum. The cops/banks may be dumb but even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes.

[Suradit69]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

They did not withdraw 1,000 times they attempted and succeeded 162 times. You need to read it more carefully.

No, it says they withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it says 162 times.

I've often been behind someone using his/her ATM card to withdraw cash and seen them actually walk away with nothing (usually after making several attempts in the futile expectation that their zero bank balance will suddenly & magically increase).

Using the card to withdraw money and doing it successfully are not necessarily the same thing.

[BlackJack]

how did they get the money out of the country?

[Robert Campbell]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

I read it that they tried to use the cards 1000 times but only successfully got money 162 times.

( I have my Thai press translator turned on)

Does that make a big diference to you. Lock the f--ck--s up for life.

[Jim walker]

Still a few criminals left in Thailand keep going to the good BIB catching these thieving criminals round them up and lock them up and after time served in a terrible prison deport them for life. Good riddance we don’t need foreign criminals here plenty locals for that job.

[Jiggo]

Why is no one "pointing" at them

[off road pat]

how did they get the money out of the country?

They wire it.......send it from bank to bank....

[BlackJack]

how did they get the money out of the country?

They wire it.......send it from bank to bank....

and the banks require a reason for wiring it out under the money laundering laws?

dont they need a TT3? or some valid reason

[Greenhill]

how did they get the money out of the country?

I can't believe you've missed all the adverts for Western Union?????

[mango66]

no money left to fly back,

so they will get free lodging in Bk Hilton !

Enjoy thai climat and food !!

[sydneyjed]

Wasn't that long ago that it was the mug shots of Boiler Room scammers from the UK and Oz regularly busted and highlighted on here ...now it's ATM skimmers mostly from Eastern Europe and Malaysia gracing our screens.This is obviously where the 'easy money' is now and I know the BiB have copped a lot of flak on here but they certainly seem to have got their act together on this scam.Well done lads!

[mrfaroukh]

Hope they put them all behind the bars. And they are really going to like it there

[balo]

That man to the right in the picture looks very much like the Ukrainian that visited Pattaya and Phuket some time ago pretending to be deaf and ask for donations . I had a good look at him closeup when he tried that scam on me, but might not be the same, if he didnt hide some of his face I could confirm it.

Edited July 30, 2015 by balo

[off road pat]

how did they get the money out of the country?

They wire it.......send it from bank to bank....

and the banks require a reason for wiring it out under the money laundering laws?

dont they need a TT3? or some valid reason

I honestly don't Know,....but Imagine they are a International criminal organization, working in several groups....that don't contact each other, but they all know were to go if the others are caught... .let's say 3-4-5 groups of 3 to 4.....

they are provided with new credit cards and codes on a regular basis....they bring the proceeds of there activity's also on a regular basis to one point...or it get's picked up.....

The organisation has ways to transfer the loot ....if they have contacts witch they certainly have it goes via the diplomatic post...!!!...or they re exchange it in hard value...and pass it on accomplices that fly back....or it goes back by boat ? some East European company that has boats comming to Thailand regularly....?

You know as I do that the Thai police regularly catches east Europeans doing this card skimming job..... let's imagine they are all connected ????? and it's not that hard to imagine ! we both saw numerous pictures of 3 to 4 east Europeans caught by the Police.....there was always one that got away...

I remember a couple of weeks ago, they caught tree to four guys and one got away ,...a few weeks before that the same happened...and I am not even talking about the Ghanaians that are caught on a regular basis....??? witch is a other Mafia !!!??? and probably work the same way....

Anyway I am convinced these are not 3-4 guys working completely alone....there must be a bigger organisation behind this....it happens to often...

Best Regards, Off Road Pat.

Edited July 30, 2015 by off road pat

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

What the stupid Nation article DOESN'T say or even acknowledge is that the way these guys got their 1.5 million baht was by fraudulently draining those funds from other people's accounts, probably people here in Thailand, but perhaps elsewhere.

Now, all those people, if they even know they've been victimized by skimmers, are having to deal with their banks to try to get those stolen funds restored. And if it's in Thailand, that's not necessarily a very easy thing to do.

It's not like these guys stole money belonging to the banks. They stole money right out of individual customers' accounts.

[jacko45k]

They withdrew cash 1000 times then the next line it was 162 times.

Bit of a discrepancy.

I read it that they tried to use the cards 1000 times but only successfully got money 162 times.

( I have my Thai press translator turned on)

Does that make a big diference to you. Lock the f--ck--s up for life.

Yes, a difference of 838 . The post was dissecting the report.