Ford truck

[Ace of Pop]

DAF Airide truck was the nearest to comfort 20 or so years ago.

[pgrahmm]

I do like Ford's forward planning on the new tailgate design....

The specialty umbrella is floor mounted under the C pillar & and fits/stands in the built in cup holder.

The roadside service number is etched between the seats on the tailgate for use while you are waiting for them → or a Toyota to tow you to the nearest semi-functional Ford dealer.....

[Don Mega]

All this 1970's comparison talk is really daft. LOS trucks all still have leaf springs at the rear, you can fool around with the designs but they are still

incredibly old tech when it is possible to use coils if manufactures want, but at a cost.

NVH, (Noise, Vibration and Harshness), my truck don't make a noise, most certainly doesn't vibrate, and is only harsh over a bumpy road if unladen.

Now IF the latest offerings scrapped leaf springs I would listen. My 88 Volvo estate had coil springs but had very clever shocks that adjusted ride height without the use of an air pump when carrying heavy loads..

Anyone, tell me of a truck in LOS designed to carry a load that rides like a saloon, as a few here are implying.

Oh and I know what DM does if I am right as to who I think it is.. ..

So you have done a direct back to back comparison of your old Vigo to the new Revo ?

Anywho at the end of the day if you are happy with your ride thats all that matters but until you remove that blindfold you are wearing you really should not be commenting on anything other than your old Vigo.

In my past I have fooled around with leaf springs, adding, removing leaves and/or having them re tensioned...

Are you telling me that a new truck with leaf springs designed to carry a ton, rides the same whether loaded or unloaded. If so, I would be very pleased to read how it is achieved..Always willing to learn...

Nah mate. you already have it sussed. It dont get no better than the mighty Vigo.

[IMHO]

All this 1970's comparison talk is really daft. LOS trucks all still have leaf springs at the rear, you can fool around with the designs but they are still

incredibly old tech when it is possible to use coils if manufactures want, but at a cost.

NVH, (Noise, Vibration and Harshness), my truck don't make a noise, most certainly doesn't vibrate, and is only harsh over a bumpy road if unladen.

Now IF the latest offerings scrapped leaf springs I would listen. My 88 Volvo estate had coil springs but had very clever shocks that adjusted ride height without the use of an air pump when carrying heavy loads..

Anyone, tell me of a truck in LOS designed to carry a load that rides like a saloon, as a few here are implying.

Oh and I know what DM does if I am right as to who I think it is.. ..

So you have done a direct back to back comparison of your old Vigo to the new Revo ?

Anywho at the end of the day if you are happy with your ride thats all that matters but until you remove that blindfold you are wearing you really should not be commenting on anything other than your old Vigo.

In my past I have fooled around with leaf springs, adding, removing leaves and/or having them re tensioned...

Are you telling me that a new truck with leaf springs designed to carry a ton, rides the same whether loaded or unloaded. If so, I would be very pleased to read how it is achieved..Always willing to learn...

Nah mate. you already have it sussed. It dont get no better than the mighty Vigo.

Indeed. If you own a VIGO, you have reached the pinnacle of automotive engineering, and it will never be bested. Obviously.

[IMHO]

The Vigo and all others use 100 year old tech, the leaf spring. I have asked nicely how new trucks have overcome this techs drawbacks. You don't want to tell me, well thats OK...Sure most would like to know and learn something.

The answer is really quite simple: Superior Engineering

The same thing that made the VIGO ride and handle better than the outgoing Tiger back in 2004. The same thing that makes the REVO a better ride than the VIGO. The same thing that makes the Ranger the best riding pickup right now... and so on and so forth.

Through all these generations, the basic chassis and suspension components have remained the same....

The main things that have outwardly changed is the stiffness of the chassis, and the length of the leaf springs - the rest of it is all down to the almost 'black art' of geometry, lots of road testing and fine tuning. That's something Toyota don't really excel at though - the REVO is the worst handling and riding pickup available today - but still an improvement over the VIGO.

[IMHO]

Think I/we know that all they can do is fool with leaf springs, they have had a 100 years to fool with it to achieve very little. Regarding leaf springs I find the statement "Superior Engineering" a bit strong.

At least Nissan has had a go at using modern tech coil springs on a truck, a step in the right direction, perhaps a long way to go. But I understand not in LOS, 'yet'...

Again I'm going to suggest you do some test driving - then you'll understand what we're taking about.

It's not just little incremental steps - except maybe for the Revo, there has been BIG leaps made in the past few years... And honestly, you're not doing yourself too many favors being argumentative about it, because almost everyone has has done the test driving, and knows the facts - i.e. that all this theory talk is just nonsense

[JaseTheBass]

Think I/we know that all they can do is fool with leaf springs, they have had a 100 years to fool with it to achieve very little. Regarding leaf springs I find the statement "Superior Engineering" a bit strong.

At least Nissan has had a go at using modern tech coil springs on a truck, a step in the right direction, perhaps a long way to go. But I understand not in LOS, 'yet'...

The Nissan is great until you want to use it as a truck according to every report I have seen of the coil sprung version.

And it still doesn't ride as well as the Aussie XLT or WT Rangers.

[IMHO]

I find the statement "Superior Engineering" a bit strong.

Sorry if that hit a nerve mate

Call it magic, or pixie dust, or just plain luck then.

However you want to phrase it, Toyota don't have as much of it, right now.

[IMHO]

Think I/we know that all they can do is fool with leaf springs, they have had a 100 years to fool with it to achieve very little. Regarding leaf springs I find the statement "Superior Engineering" a bit strong.

At least Nissan has had a go at using modern tech coil springs on a truck, a step in the right direction, perhaps a long way to go. But I understand not in LOS, 'yet'...

Again I'm going to suggest you do some test driving - then you'll understand what we're taking about.

It's not just little incremental steps - except maybe for the Revo, there has been BIG leaps made in the past few years... And honestly, you're not doing yourself too many favors being argumentative about it, because almost everyone has has done the test driving, and knows the facts - i.e. that all this theory talk is just nonsense

I like to get answers. What does a "road" test drive reveal. All the trucks I have driven in LOS are OK on the road, and for sure they won't let anyone put a test ride through it's paces. Big difference.

I have read all the write ups on trucks available in LOS, they all say the Ranger is the best of the lot, but what is bad about the others for general use. ?

Are there any bone shakers, are there any that sound like a box of nails, they all have a few gizmos, they all look OK and all probably improved over the years. But I do have a question mark about proven reliability, that takes time.

You are right in a way - they are all adequate, and have been for some time. The VIGO offered adequate ride quality and outside of infamously and spectacularly failing the Moose Test, offered adequate handling.

No-one ever, ever compared it to the ride and handling of an SUV or passenger car though. But today's trucks do compare. That's the difference.

[Don Mega]

Think I/we know that all they can do is fool with leaf springs, they have had a 100 years to fool with it to achieve very little. Regarding leaf springs I find the statement "Superior Engineering" a bit strong.

At least Nissan has had a go at using modern tech coil springs on a truck, a step in the right direction, perhaps a long way to go. But I understand not in LOS, 'yet'...

The Nissan is great until you want to use it as a truck according to every report I have seen of the coil sprung version.

And it still doesn't ride as well as the Aussie XLT or WT Rangers.

Not to mention the WT actually rides better than the XLT as it has different springs and shocks both front and rear.

Also Ford do have a Coil Sprung Ranger on offer.

[JAS21]

I think that the answer has been given ...superior engineering. Look at car engines, todays engines are superior to those in the past ..don't need much running in and last a long time ...still basically the same as in the pass ...some bits go round and round and others bits go up and down.

[ardokano]

The Vigo and all others use 100 year old tech, the leaf spring. I have asked nicely how new trucks have overcome this techs drawbacks. You don't want to tell me, well thats OK...Sure most would like to know and learn something.

More than a thousand years of history of the wheel. Why do you need to Vigo? Simple wagon millennial age, attach the two-stroke engine, and life is good.

[JaseTheBass]

Did we mention that the WT has a quieter cabin than some Beemers and Mercs?

*The Revo doesn't...

[Pomthai]

I'm gonna throw a bean in for our 3.2 Mazda BT50 great machine and on par with the Ford. They're both streaks ahead of to the other brands right now.

There are some QC issues. There are known hose weaknesses such as gear oil coolant and inter-cooler hoses. I had the coolant hoses replaced several months back and just recently and inter-cooler hose replaced - I agree it is not good enough really and the should have lasted much longer. Our old Dmax with 450,000K never had these issues.

However, the issues were addressed, are widely published if you do a little research and easily rectified. Got 115,000km on it now and a few rubber bits failing doesn't change my opinion that its a great vehicle.

As above, the Revo is an improvement over the older Vigo but not the current Ford or Mazda.

[Don Mega]

I'm gonna throw a bean in for our 3.2 Mazda BT50 great machine and on par with the Ford. They're both streaks ahead of to the other brands right now.

I reckon from a driving point of view the BT-50 is actually the better vehicle than the Ranger (drove them back to back. 2014 models Dual cab 3.2 auto). Shame it is soo goddamn ugly.

[Pomthai]

I'm gonna throw a bean in for our 3.2 Mazda BT50 great machine and on par with the Ford. They're both streaks ahead of to the other brands right now.

I reckon from a driving point of view the BT-50 is actually the better vehicle than the Ranger (drove them back to back. 2014 models Dual cab 3.2 auto). Shame it is soo goddamn ugly.

I agree about the driving - but I would wouldn't I lol since I've got one. I also prefer the stereo / console design / layout of the BT. I have to agree on the aesthetics outside too pretty ugly. But the smiley face does grow on you, it's worse in some colours.

[Gary A]

I agree about the BT-50. Just too ugly. Even at that it came down to my choice of the V-Cross Isuzu, BT-50 or Nissan. I chose the Isuzu. Ford and Toyota went out of the running because of the arrogant dealers and salesmen. Both Ford and Toyota acted like there is nothing else available. Probably there are better dealers available but I wanted to buy locally. I have no brand loyalty and I think I would have been happy with any of the Thai trucks. I'm certainly NOT a Toyota lemming and I was even willing to overlook the ugly tablet glued on the Revo dash.

[Ace of Pop]

Never think about Sales Folk,etc ,just buy what U want.

[2fishin2]

ALWAYS think about the dealer and service department!

[Gary A]

Never think about Sales Folk,etc ,just buy what U want.

I don't like to pay anymore than I have to. A salesman who refuses everything I ask for is not worth my time trying to make a deal with.

[Ace of Pop]

Oh You speak Thai then

[ardokano]

I don't like to pay anymore than I have to. A salesman who refuses everything I ask for is not worth my time trying to make a deal with.

Its mean car in Thailand you cant look? Becouse for same money you can't get same as in US .

[jayceenik]

Hello ! This is the OP.

Thanks for a lively thread !!

Like I said earlier the papa finally bought a new Revo silver at the Ubon Toyota dealer.

Here he is with some family for good luck.

[cornishcarlos]

Ubon papa's Revo.jpg

Hello ! This is the OP.

Thanks for a lively thread !!

Like I said earlier the papa finally bought a new Revo silver at the Ubon Toyota dealer.

Here he is with some family for good luck.

That's one mighty tall girl in the center !!

Hope he enjoys the ride

[Don Mega]

That's one mighty tall girl in the center !!

Hope he enjoys the ride

hehehehehehe.

You bad !!

[Johnniey]

On 27/12/2015 at 6:05 PM, jayceenik said:

Hello ! This is the OP.

Thanks for a lively thread !!

Like I said earlier the papa finally bought a new Revo silver at the Ubon Toyota dealer.

Here he is with some family for good luck.

Which one is the father? Whose name did you put it in?

[jayceenik]

9 hours ago, Johnniey said:

Which one is the father? Whose name did you put it in?

 

Papa is the second one from right, next to the Toyota dealer guy.

The truck is in his name.

TGF contributes monthly to loan payment with money she gets from me.

 

 

[Ace of Pop]

And they all climbed aboard,put on their Seat Belts and rode off happily into the Sunset


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[pgrahmm]

2 hours ago, jayceenik said:

 

Papa is the second one from right, next to the Toyota dealer guy.

The truck is in his name.

TGF contributes monthly to loan payment with money she gets from me.

 

 

That's one Tall woman in the middle - even slouched against the truck with legs moved to reduce the height....