arrowsdawdle Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Do these people on the photo qualify for the job even if they don't understand the difference between a reform and a crackdown? It could be deform and crackup, they wouldn't know the difference and would not care. There is only one voice in LOS and the only acceptable way to question it is to ask, "How high, sir?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Totale Gleichschaltung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Online media was the most "troublesome," as it was not filtered unlike print, radio and television. Such communication increased the chance of people to distribute false or fake information, he said. Or you could just educate your populace properly so that people could critically evaluate what they read, and interact with each other online without the need for military babysitting. Edited December 25, 2015 by attrayant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I'm sorry, those rabbits in the headlights are the ones telling everyone else to suck eggs or they are the ones with their backs up against the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The only option that a illegitimate government has to maintain control against even the smallest of threats is force. It is the danger of time... In 2006, the stepped in, did their dirty work in writing a new constitution with plenty of control levers and then stepped back into the shadows... This time they are bolder, staying longer, and show no sign of leaving. But their enemy is time ... it always works against Thai junta's because the very nature of the junta's force used on the people is to create more resistance, which in turn ... These guys are toast. So true, but my worry is how much damage will they inflict before they're back in their barracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Do these people on the photo qualify for the job even if they don't understand the difference between a reform and a crackdown? It could be deform and crackup, they wouldn't know the difference and would not care. There is only one voice in LOS and the only acceptable way to question it is to ask, "How high, sir?" Closed minds STOP thought crimes! Could this possibly be a misunderstood adoption from the accursed West? Silent night 24/7/365? Edited December 25, 2015 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiesteve63 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 That committee is made up entirely of Chinese? Figures.[/quoteAt least 3 of them definitely do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The 99.3% may not be 100% behind this! I really get the impression people are becoming scared of the powers that be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1012 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 'With an estimated 32 million LINE users and more than 34 million Facebook accounts registered in the kingdom, Pisit said online media was the most "troublesome," as it was not “filtered” unlike print, radio and television. Such communication increased the chance of people to distribute false or fake information, he said.' Maybe even the real TRUTH, which might not be the correct TRUTH. Shame that, slowly getting North Koreaish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 single gateway was not working? Why not shut down internet? Then it would be peace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Online media was the most "troublesome," as it was not filtered unlike print, radio and television. Such communication increased the chance of people to distribute false or fake information, he said. Or you could just educate your populace properly so that people could critically evaluate what they read, and interact with each other online without the need for military babysitting. That's exactly the opposite of what the junta wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsterk Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Pisit said online media was the most "troublesome," as it was not “filtered” unlike print, radio and television. Such communication increased the chance of people to distribute false or fake information, he said. It's the truth they really worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Alas, this will be music to the ears of a certain faction of Thaivisa contributors... I was just about to say, "well that's the end of Thai Visa then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Calling Google, Facebook, and Line reps in for attitude adjustment. PissIt bettet start learning how to herd cats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 This is really going too far. Any censorship of the internet or a single gateway is a huge mistake and will cause a huge backlash. The populace can still think but I suppose that may also be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Won't be long now before every male Thai must have their hair cut the same as Prayut. You mean they all have to walk around looking like Barney Rubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The coup did bring some needed order to Thailand and its political madness. I have tried to understand the reasoning of the coup makers and their stated desire to move the country forward. However, they are making a huge mistake now by trying to control all forms of expression. You cannot control people's thoughts or their freedom to express them. It has been tried in other places and other times and it just never works. The situation in Thailand is akin to the 99% movement in America in which 1% control all the wealth. However, in America one still has the right to protest peacefully and make their opinion heard and try and influence the political arm of the government. When you try and control too many aspects of a person's life- pressure builds and the results become ugly. The government needs to bring relief to the people by starting to understand that the rural poor need ways to increase their income. Thailand actually needs to start redistributing its wealth from Bangkok and the Eastern Seaboard to Issan.. Instead of trying to control people's freedom of expression- some real trade missions and tax incentives to bring overseas business to Issan will solve most of the issues . Putting people to work at real jobs; increasing their income; reforming the bureaucracy; curtailing the corruption and reforming the educational system really is what gets people to stop talking because they are too busy improving their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism, by By Dr. Lawrence Brit 5-28-2013 #6: "Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common." Apparently the Prayut regime IS AT WAR - with the Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishJohn Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 They have done their job by removing the dirty cronies and stopping that ridiculous corruption and murder of political opposition. The only thing they missed was jailing everyone who voted for the amnesty bill for gross abuse of power. Now they should speed up the reforms and get out. They are going to lose a lot of support if they proceed with this plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Pisit said online media was the most "troublesome," as it was not “filtered” unlike print, radio and television. Such communication increased the chance of people to distribute false or fake information, he said. It's the truth they really worry about. well the little old Daily Mail online from the UK must have said something that really cut right to the bone because I don't believe for one minute their journalism was inaccurate so they are being penalised for telling the truth. Edited December 25, 2015 by Asiantravel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 TVF is already checking for hosting prices in Singapore, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The only option that a illegitimate government has to maintain control against even the smallest of threats is force. It is the danger of time... In 2006, the stepped in, did their dirty work in writing a new constitution with plenty of control levers and then stepped back into the shadows... This time they are bolder, staying longer, and show no sign of leaving. But their enemy is time ... it always works against Thai junta's because the very nature of the junta's force used on the people is to create more resistance, which in turn ... These guys are toast. So true, but my worry is how much damage will they inflict before they're back in their barracks. Agreed. I don't see anything but more conflict and more violence in the future. Looking at the Thai juntas since '32, it paints a rather ugly pattern. It always ends the same way. Different names, different faces, different dead bodies, same same... BTW, they never really ever go back to their barracks, do they? That is the problem. The army needs to be out of politics and under civilian control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTravellerMUC Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Ñ Sent from my SM-G925F using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 TVF is already checking for hosting prices in Singapore, right? Does TVF still have that bar in Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Christ, even JuntaJohn is disagreeing with them on this one. I can just imagine the meetings with google, facebook and Line, and their reps trying to keep a straight face while politely explaning that they will not bend their will and start reporting their users to an outdated, nationalistic, fascist Regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptHaddock Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Calling Google, Facebook, and Line reps in for attitude adjustment. PissIt bettet start learning how to herd cats! If you imagine that those internet companies are going to deny the Thai military anything they want, you are off in lalaland. Take Microsoft, for instance: http://business-humanrights.org/en/thailand-privacy-international-says-microsoft-handed-information-to-govt-used-in-l%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9-case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 CaptHaddock You've provided an interesting link (relating to a specific case from October 2009). Whilst that specific article is critical of Microsoft, their action on that occasion must be seen in the context that they were dealing with the democratically-elected government of Thailand. Before suggesting a visit to lalaland, I suggest that it's a bit premature to assume Microsoft (or the others) will respond the same way to heavy-handed action by the junta (especially when Article 44 is cited as justification). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptHaddock Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 CaptHaddock You've provided an interesting link (relating to a specific case from October 2009). Whilst that specific article is critical of Microsoft, their action on that occasion must be seen in the context that they were dealing with the democratically-elected government of Thailand. Before suggesting a visit to lalaland, I suggest that it's a bit premature to assume Microsoft (or the others) will respond the same way to heavy-handed action by the junta (especially when Article 44 is cited as justification). You are being very naive. Companies are in business to make money not to protect your rights or your privacy. Remember IBM's data processing machines, staffed by IBM employees, helping keep track of processes at Auschwitz? Google and NSA close working relationship: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/06/nsa-google_n_5273437.html How Google and Facebook Cooperated with the NSA and PRISM http://news.yahoo.com/google-facebook-cooperated-nsa-prism-145643099.html The Post and the Guardian allege tech companies that participate in the PRISM program — Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, and Apple —offered the government "direct access" to their servers full of user information. "From inside a company's data stream the NSA is capable of pulling out anything it likes," the Post's Barton Gellman and Laura Poitras reported. Yahoo In China http://techcrunch.com/2007/11/08/yahoo-in-china-an-unfair-attack/ For those who missed it, in short Yahoo was attacked by both sides of politics for complying with a request under Chinese law, in China, to provide information on a political dissident. The rhetoric was raw; San Mateo Democrat Chairman Tom Lantos called Yahoo moral pygmies, and Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., compared Yahoo’s cooperation with the Chinese government to companies that cooperated with Nazi Germany during World War II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 CaptHaddock We'll just have to wait an see how PissIt gets on in his discussions with Google, Facebook, and Line next month, won't we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptHaddock Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 CaptHaddock We'll just have to wait an see how PissIt gets on in his discussions with Google, Facebook, and Line next month, won't we! You think they are going to announce their cooperation? We'll probably have to wait until the next Snowden or Wikileaks to know the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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