Sanders transforms into contender, still pitches revolution

Pimay1 · June 3, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Pimay1 · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Apple and oranges. I ask you also. Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady? Please answer yes or no.

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Apple and oranges. I ask you also. Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady? Please answer yes or no.

Why is it apples and oranges? Military is okay to Socialise but education is not. The big bad government levies taxes and spends it on free training for military personnel so they can earn an income. Pure unadulterated Socialism. Giving away stuff for free aren't they?

If the young woman qualifies for University admission to a public not private University and the $226,000 relates to tuition fees only, then yes the taxpayer would fund her.

Pimay1 · June 4, 2016

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Apple and oranges. I ask you also. Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady? Please answer yes or no.

Why is it apples and oranges? Military is okay to Socialise but education is not. The big bad government levies taxes and spends it on free training for military personnel so they can earn an income. Pure unadulterated Socialism. Giving away stuff for free aren't they?

If the young woman qualifies for University admission to a public not private University and the $226,000 relates to tuition fees only, then yes the taxpayer would fund her.

You and I are on the opposite side of the wall on this one. The military was established to defend our nation's borders against invasion and external attacks. The training is not in order for the personnel to earn income although that is a spinoff of some of their training but it is not the basic reason for training. If you choose to call this free stuff then the choice is yours. They are trained first and foremost in ways to defend our nation.

As for the college tuition fee, it was her choice to attend this university all the time knowing she could not afford the tuition. No personal accountability on her part. So the tax payers are asked to pay for her lack of accountability. By your reasoning if a person qualifies for a home loan the tax payers should fund this person's decision to buy a house because they can't afford the mortgage payments. Where does it stop?

Original post removed due to too many posts.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Pimay1

CWMcMurray · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/
Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Apple and oranges. I ask you also. Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady? Please answer yes or no.

Absolutely 100% NOT...

But Bernie is not asking the American tax payers to pay such ridiculous amount..

He is only talking about 4 years of tuition fee at public universities

Quote--

In 2015-16, average published tuition and fee prices for in-state students at public four-year institutions range from $4,890 in Wyoming and $6,350 in Montana to $14,990 in Vermont and $15,160 in New Hampshire.

http://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/2015-16-state-tuition-and-fees-public-four-year-institutions-state-and-five-year-percentage

No idea what university that girl went to or for how many years... But even Bernie ain't talking about picking up that tab...

It's not a blank check...

jmd8800 · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

The costs of the military should be born by the people who benefit from military actions. As of the last few decades the people who benefit from US military action seem to be the wealth / investor class.

jmd8800 · June 4, 2016

The real problem with American politics is on display right here on this thread about university tuition.

The average person will not incur $200,000+ in costs for university but the arguments we will have over university tuition will center on the extreme costs.

Kind of like the OctoMom scandal. How can anyone come to a consensus when we end up talking about extremes?

Edited June 4, 2016 by jmd8800

helpisgood · June 4, 2016

When I was young, California state universities were virtually free to state residents. I haven't bothered to research, but I am pretty sure that this occurred in other states as well.

I think that any good capitalist would see the value of investing in their young people's future. In order to compete in this increasingly technological 21st century, the USA needs to have an well-educated workforce. Also, they need a younger generation to have an income not overly burdened by college debt so that they can buy more goods and services, and thereby stimulate the economy.

As for the military, we need to ask if the USA - whose defense budget far exceeds the rest of the world - really needs this vast military strung throughout the world or is this just a means to increase the profit margins for the military-industrial complex that Ike wisely warned us about.

So, if you are a true capitalist and not a knee-jerk American "conservative," then you should more carefully evaluate how Uncle Sam invests the taxpayers' money.

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

You and I are on the opposite side of the wall on this one. The military was established to defend our nation's borders against invasion and external attacks. The training is not in order for the personnel to earn income although that is a spinoff of some of their training but it is not the basic reason for training. If you choose to call this free stuff then the choice is yours. They are trained first and foremost in ways to defend our nation.

As for the college tuition fee, it was her choice to attend this university all the time knowing she could not afford the tuition. No personal accountability on her part. So the tax payers are asked to pay for her lack of accountability. By your reasoning if a person qualifies for a home loan the tax payers should fund this person's decision to buy a house because they can't afford the mortgage payments. Where does it stop?

Original post removed due to too many posts.

I am consistently on one side of the 'wall'. You want to play both sides of the 'wall'.

I don't know this particular young woman's circumstances and abilities. Prior to receiving public funded tuition she would need to meet certain criteria to be eligible. Same as being eligible for the Socialist military educational funding 'free stuff', engineers, surveyors, doctors, nurses, electricians, computer specialists, pilots, seaman, divers, plumbers, builders, communications experts, logistics, psychologists. Well bugger me all the things that create an effective productive military also create an effective productive society. Shiver me timbers Bernie could be onto something here.

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

The real problem with American politics is on display right here on this thread about university tuition.

The average person will not incur $200,000+ in costs for university but the arguments we will have over university tuition will center on the extreme costs.

Kind of like the OctoMom scandal. How can anyone come to a consensus when we end up talking about extremes?

ABSOLUTELY!!! no way a publicly funded University degree will cost +$200,000. There is a HUGE chunk of profit padding that MASSIVE fee. Trim all that fat off you'd be lucky to end up with an invoice for $15,000. +$200,000 Possibly for an elite surgeon at the top of their field. Over the course of their lifetime they will pay back millions into the system and the societal benefit of their skills and knowledge would be incalculable. I'm in.

CWMcMurray · June 4, 2016

ET has no common sense, in fact he has no sense. Now on to a more relevant discussion, unless you still want to shoot yourself in the foot. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/bill-clinton-gave-six-figure-speech-vulture-fund-apollo . http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37203-placebo-ballots-stealing-california-from-bernie-using-an-old-gop-vote-snatching-trick . http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll . http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/01/common-sense-democratic-presidential-race/ . http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11833548/donald-trump-support-race-religion-economy . http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/trump-delegates-patriot-movement-militias . http://www.thenation.com/article/the-sanders-campaign-can-still-win-a-future-to-believe-in/?print=1 . http://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/?print=1 . https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady?

Do you think the taxpayer should fund military training or should those costs be paid by the individual military person?

Apple and oranges. I ask you also. Do you agree that the American tax payer should pay the $226,000 college tuition for this lady? Please answer yes or no.

Why is it apples and oranges? Military is okay to Socialise but education is not. The big bad government levies taxes and spends it on free training for military personnel so they can earn an income. Pure unadulterated Socialism. Giving away stuff for free aren't they?

If the young woman qualifies for University admission to a public not private University and the $226,000 relates to tuition fees only, then yes the taxpayer would fund her.

Have to disagree with you a bit...

You may not realize, but there are no public universities that will ever come any where near that amount.

In the US ... The system can be a bit broken... As credit cards and loans are just thrown at students

Many will have half a dozen credit cards and will take loans far exceeding tuition costs

Had many friends that used these loans to pay for normal living expenses, cars, spring break vacations

Which is completely irresponsible, but if it is a loan... Up to them...

But no one is talking about paying for many multiples of tuition

Also I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of civil service requirement for free college

For military, soldier for 4 years and then GI Bill paying for college for 4 years

Would never back anything that forced military service to all.. As many are not suited for military service and others may have issues...

But there are many types of service possible.. Volunteer at local charities or government. Programs or other ways to 'give back' to society can be found. Edited June 4, 2016 by Scott

jmd8800 · June 4, 2016

After WW2 my father was eligible for the GI Bill. He had a bachelors degree going into service and when he came out he got a masters and then phd.

He went to a different state than his residence for his phd. I would assume out of state tuition was higher then as it is now but I'm not sure. He was married and had 3 children while studying for his phd. My mother did not work.

I think this is what Bernie is referring to. Affordable post secondary education.

jmd8800 · June 4, 2016

Another example of American politics today. No discussions. Everything is binary. For or against. Yes or no. Red / Blue. Socialist / Capitalist. rugged individualism or we are all in this together. Nobody can take the ball and run with it to see where it takes us.

Bernie says free education.

Right wing says NO. (I used right wing saying NO as it is more common..but the left dos this as well.)

End of story. No discussion about how to make education affordable. No discussion to find a resolve to the problem.

Usernames · June 4, 2016

Another example of American politics today. No discussions. Everything is binary. For or against. Yes or no. Red / Blue. Socialist / Capitalist. rugged individualism or we are all in this together. Nobody can take the ball and run with it to see where it takes us.

Bernie says free education.

Right wing says NO. (I used right wing saying NO as it is more common..but the left dos this as well.)

End of story. No discussion about how to make education affordable. No discussion to find a resolve to the problem.

Some states do as Texas does and have Tuition Equalization Grants, which are piped directly into private schools and private schools only. They are a grant, not a loan and serve to lower costs for any qualifying student. Not sure I actually like the idea of taxpayers subsidizing private schools in such a direct manner. BTW, an enormous part of the problem in tuition is the skyrocketing level of faculty salaries. If the kids want some of their money back, they ought to ask the guys at the lectern.

jmd8800 · June 4, 2016

Another example of American politics today. No discussions. Everything is binary. For or against. Yes or no. Red / Blue. Socialist / Capitalist. rugged individualism or we are all in this together. Nobody can take the ball and run with it to see where it takes us.

Bernie says free education.

Right wing says NO. (I used right wing saying NO as it is more common..but the left dos this as well.)

End of story. No discussion about how to make education affordable. No discussion to find a resolve to the problem.

Some states do as Texas does and have Tuition Equalization Grants, which are piped directly into private schools and private schools only. They are a grant, not a loan and serve to lower costs for any qualifying student. Not sure I actually like the idea of taxpayers subsidizing private schools in such a direct manner. BTW, an enormous part of the problem in tuition is the skyrocketing level of faculty salaries. If the kids want some of their money back, they ought to ask the guys at the lectern.

Your point is well taken. And a good example of starting a discussion rather than just saying yes or no.

I read somewhere that over the last 30 years university costs have gone up 1100+ percent in the last 30 years. You mention those at the lectern, but I'd venture to say the increase in costs has more to do with administration overload and building new buildings. I know So Cal had a huge building boom on univ /college campuses in the last 20 years. I doubt that was really needed because student enrollment didn't increase on par with the building boom. Professors (those at the lectern) are paid quite well if they are 'rock star' status, but there are fewer and fewer of them. Universities are relying on adjunct professors a lot more today. Low salary, no benefits etc.

Not long ago one of the champion issues of the Republican party was the use of school vouchers. Some of the proposed ideas would have allowed using the vouchers at private institutions.I agree with you on subsidizing private schools.

sgtsabai · June 4, 2016

Tax payer money should never under any circumstance go to finance private, especially "charter" or religious based/sponsored schools. In fact the right wing has been stealing tax money meant for public education to support their version of schooling for years, while cutting public education budgets. Tax on Wall Street criminals/banksters will pay for free tuition for public university. America and the capitalists need a well educated public, although they don't want a thinking or analytical person. Could be "dangerous" to the system. And before it even starts, liberal arts degrees are important, not just engineering, math etc. America is in dire need of critical thinkers, not taught in schools since the Reagan regime. Oh, teachers make too much money but it is OK for CEO's to acquire great wealth at the expense of the people? Warped logic. BTW, I grew up in a school teacher family. My mother taught school for some 40 years. Cousins taught school, one was married to the President of Stephen F. Austin University in Nacogdoches, Texas. I understand a bit about the importance of teachers.

sgtsabai · June 4, 2016

Let me add that the "kochtopus" has it's tentacles in many universities now. As a consequence they teach the "koch" way.

OK, I'll get this out of the way so I can get back to my desktop. Reading for those up to it. Not in any particular order but interesting reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/politics/donald-trump-constitution-power.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/politics/donald-trump-university-judge-gonzalo-curiel.html

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/trump-university-its-worse-than-you-think

http://www.alternet.org/print/election-2016/why-millennials-love-bernie-sanders

http://www.alternet.org/print/election-2016/sanders-supports-plan-floor-fight-democratic-national-convention

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/67444ec825f3460ba4aadefc0d29d22f/trump-university-model-sell-hard-demand-see-warrant?via=newsletter&source=CSPMedition

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=16427

http://fair.org/home/the-people-are-the-story-and-corporate-media-are-missing-it/

http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/02/hillarys-exploitation-democratic-institutions-including-superdelegates-exposed/

http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/02/bernie-sanders-acquires-superdelegates/

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

Another example of American politics today. No discussions. Everything is binary. For or against. Yes or no. Red / Blue. Socialist / Capitalist. rugged individualism or we are all in this together. Nobody can take the ball and run with it to see where it takes us.

Bernie says free education.

Right wing says NO. (I used right wing saying NO as it is more common..but the left dos this as well.)

End of story. No discussion about how to make education affordable. No discussion to find a resolve to the problem.

Bernie does not say free education. His policy is to make education and health VERY affordable. Not free though.

NumbNut · June 4, 2016

Let me add that the "kochtopus" has it's tentacles in many universities now. As a consequence they teach the "koch" way.

OK, I'll get this out of the way so I can get back to my desktop. Reading for those up to it. Not in any particular order but interesting reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/politics/donald-trump-constitution-power.html?_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/politics/donald-trump-university-judge-gonzalo-curiel.html

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/trump-university-its-worse-than-you-think

http://www.alternet.org/print/election-2016/why-millennials-love-bernie-sanders

http://www.alternet.org/print/election-2016/sanders-supports-plan-floor-fight-democratic-national-convention

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/67444ec825f3460ba4aadefc0d29d22f/trump-university-model-sell-hard-demand-see-warrant?via=newsletter&source=CSPMedition

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=16427

http://fair.org/home/the-people-are-the-story-and-corporate-media-are-missing-it/

http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/02/hillarys-exploitation-democratic-institutions-including-superdelegates-exposed/

http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/02/bernie-sanders-acquires-superdelegates/

Well that's my weekend reading taken care of, cheers Sarge

Jingthing · June 4, 2016

There actually was a lot of political debate between Clinton and Sanders over education costs. Clinton, as is her style, favored a more moderate approach as she does not believe what Sanders favors has any REALISTIC chance of being passed into law. That was really the core of that contest. Clinton won. More votes by far. More delegates by far. The democratic party has spoken. Our nominee to run against the vile monster is going to be: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Usernames · June 4, 2016

Another example of American politics today. No discussions. Everything is binary. For or against. Yes or no. Red / Blue. Socialist / Capitalist. rugged individualism or we are all in this together. Nobody can take the ball and run with it to see where it takes us.

Bernie says free education.

Right wing says NO. (I used right wing saying NO as it is more common..but the left dos this as well.)

End of story. No discussion about how to make education affordable. No discussion to find a resolve to the problem.

Some states do as Texas does and have Tuition Equalization Grants, which are piped directly into private schools and private schools only. They are a grant, not a loan and serve to lower costs for any qualifying student. Not sure I actually like the idea of taxpayers subsidizing private schools in such a direct manner. BTW, an enormous part of the problem in tuition is the skyrocketing level of faculty salaries. If the kids want some of their money back, they ought to ask the guys at the lectern.

Your point is well taken. And a good example of starting a discussion rather than just saying yes or no.

I read somewhere that over the last 30 years university costs have gone up 1100+ percent in the last 30 years. You mention those at the lectern, but I'd venture to say the increase in costs has more to do with administration overload and building new buildings. I know So Cal had a huge building boom on univ /college campuses in the last 20 years. I doubt that was really needed because student enrollment didn't increase on par with the building boom. Professors (those at the lectern) are paid quite well if they are 'rock star' status, but there are fewer and fewer of them. Universities are relying on adjunct professors a lot more today. Low salary, no benefits etc.

Not long ago one of the champion issues of the Republican party was the use of school vouchers. Some of the proposed ideas would have allowed using the vouchers at private institutions.I agree with you on subsidizing private schools.

Funds for new buildings in some states are usually raised through sources different than faculty wages, and in some cases the building funds can only be used for building thus creating more facilities than are necessary. BTW in Texas, you can go online and see the salary of every person working at a public university. It's part of the line item budgeting. Where I once taught, non-tenured Sr. Lecturers now get $75,000 per year. Tenured faculty average around $160,000 per year. Less than 20 years ago, Sr. Lecturers received about $38,000/year and tenured faculty around $76,000. So, they have doubled while the salaries of students and their parents have stagnated or declined.

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

Tax payer money should never under any circumstance go to finance private, especially "charter" or religious based/sponsored schools. In fact the right wing has been stealing tax money meant for public education to support their version of schooling for years, while cutting public education budgets. Tax on Wall Street criminals/banksters will pay for free tuition for public university. America and the capitalists need a well educated public, although they don't want a thinking or analytical person. Could be "dangerous" to the system. And before it even starts, liberal arts degrees are important, not just engineering, math etc. America is in dire need of critical thinkers, not taught in schools since the Reagan regime. Oh, teachers make too much money but it is OK for CEO's to acquire great wealth at the expense of the people? Warped logic. BTW, I grew up in a school teacher family. My mother taught school for some 40 years. Cousins taught school, one was married to the President of Stephen F. Austin University in Nacogdoches, Texas. I understand a bit about the importance of teachers.

Absolutely agree. Private schools 'for profit' should not receive one nickel of taxpayers money. People can set them up but they will also continue to fund a public school placement for each child. Other than the study of different religions, religion should form no part of an educational system. You want to practice a religion build a church or temple or synagogue and do it there.

Jingthing · June 4, 2016

I am hoping that some of Sanders ideas on education and health care can be integrated into the Clinton campaign agenda. Compromised of course. That's politics. But the Sanders movement deserves something for it's success, which was short of winning, but still impressive, and yes Clinton will want a significant percentage of Sanders supporters to help defeat the vile monster. Those who are ideological purists, too bad, that's not the real world, in the USA, or anywhere.

up2u2 · June 4, 2016

Funds for new buildings in some states are usually raised through sources different than faculty wages, and in some cases the building funds can only be used for building thus creating more facilities than are necessary. BTW in Texas, you can go online and see the salary of every person working at a public university. It's part of the line item budgeting. Where I once taught, non-tenured Sr. Lecturers now get $75,000 per year. Tenured faculty average around $160,000 per year. Less than 20 years ago, Sr. Lecturers received about $38,000/year and tenured faculty around $76,000. So, they have doubled while the salaries of students and their parents have stagnated or declined.

Allow this to keep going a student will need $1.2M loan to get a degree in manicuring.

Luckysilk · June 4, 2016

Bernie has to run as an independent, it's good for the country & ensures the crooked witch can watch Donald J. Trump being sworn in (hopefully from her cell)

Jingthing · June 4, 2016

Bernie has to run as an independent, it's good for the country & ensures the crooked witch can watch Donald J. Trump being sworn in (hopefully from her cell)

He will do nothing of the kind as anyone with the slightest knowledge of this race would already knows.

Hillary Clinton will be nominated and Bernie Sanders will endorse her.

End of.

sgtsabai · June 4, 2016

The primaries aren't over and again, neither the Clintons nor Bernie will have enough delegates to declare victory going into the convention no matter how much the blind Clinton supporters and the media declare her empress to be. Superdelegates will have to decide and things will be very, very interesting at that point. Superdelegates are gradually being eliminated, I believe now up to 5 states have done so. Even so with the Clintons unfavorables rising every day and the orange monster closing in on her, the elites in the Democrat party will be wise, indeed are doing so, to look at alternates to the empress to be. No, they don't want Bernie but he beats the orange monster hands down in all polls, not the Clintons....... The Clintons will have to compromise greatly to obtain 70% of Bernie supporters if she is anointed. Even then none will believe her. I would think 60% more possible. Of course that shouldn't be a problem for them, if, if the Clintons are the Democrat candidate she will immediately renege on any and all promises and swing away from the center and back to the right where she came from, still a Goldwater girl. Lies come easy for her. Do you, does anyone think Clinton would pass one single thing with a obstructionist right wingnut Republican Congress? Never happen. Bernie would at least bring out the vote to take back the Senate and some seats in the House. Do the math, Clinton may be singing but the fat lady hasn't even warmed up yet.

Jingthing · June 4, 2016

Wrong.

Clinton will indeed have enough delegates after California to be nominated even without even one super delegate.

CWMcMurray · June 4, 2016

I am hoping that some of Sanders ideas on education and health care can be integrated into the Clinton campaign agenda. Compromised of course. That's politics. But the Sanders movement deserves something for it's success, which was short of winning, but still impressive, and yes Clinton will want a significant percentage of Sanders supporters to help defeat the vile monster. Those who are ideological purists, too bad, that's not the real world, in the USA, or anywhere.

This is why Bernie is asking for some of his supporters to be on committee to draft platform... So far no agreement to allow this

I hope DNC will reconsider

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