PM says he just waits for the right timing for political parties to air their views

[rooster59]

PM says he just waits for the right timing for political parties to air their views

BANGKOK: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha said that he had thought about staging public forum to allow political parties and activists to express their views on the draft charter for quite a long while but just waited for the right timing to give the go-ahead.

The prime minister’s remark followed a forum held by the Election Commission on Thursday in which most of the parties, including the Democrat and Pheu Thai, and political groups such as the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, took part to air their opinions on the draft charter and the national referendum.

Speaking to reporters while visiting Russia, the prime minister said Thursday that political parties and groups would be free to air their views on all political issues, political conflicts or court cases so that their opinions would be known to the government and the problems could be subsequently addressed.

However, the prime minister said the government would have to listen to the views of the majority of the people as well because only a handful of people were facing charges in the court for political offences.

The prime minister insisted that he had never given an order to the effect that the draft charter must be endorsed in the referendum or it must be shot down.

“But I cannot give the answer if you ask me whether there will be an election or not after the draft charter sails through the referendum because we have not reached that point yet,” said the prime minister.

Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Wisanu Kruea-ngarm admitted that he did not expect too much from Thursday’s forum but, however, the forum allowed all sides in the political divide to meet and talk.

He said that if the forum was successful, similar forum would be held and political parties would be invited to attend.

UDD leader Jatuporn Promphan, meanwhile, expressed hope that the August 7 national referendum would be held in a free and fair manner and the UDD was ready to help in observing the voting.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/164085

-- Thai PBS 2016-05-21

[Reigntax]

Right time?. Like when hell freezes over.

[jamesbrock]

“But I cannot give the answer if you ask me whether there will be an election or not after the draft charter sails through the referendum because we have not reached that point yet,”

Enough said.

[macksview]

as long as they say nothing they will be ok.

[NongKhaiKid]

And the right time will be Today, Tomorrow, Sometime, NEVER.

[Bluespunk]

"UDD leader Jatuporn Promphan, meanwhile, expressed hope that the August 7 national referendum would be held in a free and fair manner and the UDD was ready to help in observing the voting."

Now why does that not make me feel any better?

I just have this image of fox in the chicken house.

Well, not so much fox but intolerant, violent street thugs...

[Carson2311]

This is not something new. It has been ongoing for long time in Thailand with broken government, unfair government, corrupt government and so on. Every time they fall or are ousted, it follows with some time of military regime.

Here it is also same every time. There is not anything that is sure about when the new election is going to be.

The big issue in this case, as we can here out of all the political parties remarks and comments, is that everyone has their own views regarding what democracy means. The first thing that has to happen is that everone gets educated in what the simple word stands for. What is clear is that an election must be fair and the people and other parties must learn how to be graceful in defeat, wich simply means that they must wiat another 4 years until next election to win and get the chance to rule the country.

This is not hyper specific for just Thailand. It´s ongoing in many countries around the world. The solution is created by education and acceptance.

[Thailand]

After the referendum yes vote sails through, now we have that confirmed. Does seem a rather pointless and costly exercise.

And after the elections giving the current ptb the same power as the Myanmar military have just given up allowing the coutry to move out of the dark ages.

[Colabamumbai]

No time like the present. The brainwashing continues.

[arrowsdawdle]

Right time?. Like when hell freezes over.

Right time is junta speak for taking orders from the fortune-teller.

[cumgranosalum]

Surely "right timing" is whenever they like?

[Srikcir]

right timing to give the go-ahead

Yes, the day AFTER the vote on the charter.

[Jimbo2014]

Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

If tomorrow starts without me, and I'm not there to see,

If the sun should rise and find your eyes all filled with tears for me;

I wish so much you wouldn't cry the way you did today,

while thinking of the many things we didn't get to say.

[jamesbrock]

After the referendum yes vote sails through, now we have that confirmed. Does seem a rather pointless and costly exercise.

And after the elections giving the current ptb the same power as the Myanmar military have just given up allowing the coutry to move out of the dark ages.

After what elections? Unless it was mis-translated, he couldn't even say whether there "will be an election or not" - not when a election might occur, but whether one will take place at all.

That's either an unfortunate mis-translation, or a pretty big Freudian slip from the man who's promised to restore democracy ever since overthrowing democracy.

I agree that his statement suggests that the outcome of the referendum is a fait accompli, but the biggest take away from the PM's statement is whether there will be an election or not.

Of course, this Freudian slip comes as no surprise to a lot of spectators - regardless of the outcome of the referendum, the factions the allowed him to seize the country won't allow him to give it up until his being in power has served its purpose - even if it takes a decade. There is no way they will accept the risk that the 'other mob' is in control of the country at some impending juncture, there is simply too much to lose.

[sawadee1947]

And the right time will be Today, Tomorrow, Sometime, NEVER.

and...elections or no elections.....is there any change...?? One party is as good as the other. That's fate in Thailand.

[ramrod711]

UDD leader Jatuporn Promphan, meanwhile, expressed hope that the August 7 national referendum would be held in a free and fair manner and the UDD was ready to help in observing the voting.

As long as the same old performers sing the same old tunes it isn't going to get better. Wouldn't it be nice if a new party, without any affiliations to the previous governments stepped forward and gained the support of the people?

[Carson2311]

UDD leader Jatuporn Promphan, meanwhile, expressed hope that the August 7 national referendum would be held in a free and fair manner and the UDD was ready to help in observing the voting.

As long as the same old performers sing the same old tunes it isn't going to get better. Wouldn't it be nice if a new party, without any affiliations to the previous governments stepped forward and gained the support of the people?

It might sometimes look like it´s just to start a political party and win in Thailand. Dear ramrod711, that is actually not true. It takes a long time for a party to be so organized and to gain peoples trust so that it results in a victory.

On the other hand. How would we know that they would be better?

[chainarong]

This is not something new. It has been ongoing for long time in Thailand with broken government, unfair government, corrupt government and so on. Every time they fall or are ousted, it follows with some time of military regime.

Here it is also same every time. There is not anything that is sure about when the new election is going to be.

The big issue in this case, as we can here out of all the political parties remarks and comments, is that everyone has their own views regarding what democracy means. The first thing that has to happen is that everone gets educated in what the simple word stands for. What is clear is that an election must be fair and the people and other parties must learn how to be graceful in defeat, wich simply means that they must wiat another 4 years until next election to win and get the chance to rule the country.

This is not hyper specific for just Thailand. It´s ongoing in many countries around the world. The solution is created by education and acceptance.

The only reason for the 06 Coup was to oust Thaksin , but no back up plan, so after Democratic elections , back in went the PTP , with Yingluck as P.M. now the latest Coup to remove Yingluck , but no back up plan, just where does Thailand go now, eventually back to Democracy , back to the PTP. and red shirts , nothing achieved .

[Carson2311]

Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow

If tomorrow starts without me, and I'm not there to see,

If the sun should rise and find your eyes all filled with tears for me;

I wish so much you wouldn't cry the way you did today,

while thinking of the many things we didn't get to say.

Yeah, If tomorrow starts without you??? Well, then you are problem free, my friend.

How ever, is there anyone that can tell me the relevance of this poem and the political situation?

Maby just that the sun doesn´t shine much over it

[Carson2311]

This is not something new. It has been ongoing for long time in Thailand with broken government, unfair government, corrupt government and so on. Every time they fall or are ousted, it follows with some time of military regime.

Here it is also same every time. There is not anything that is sure about when the new election is going to be.

The big issue in this case, as we can here out of all the political parties remarks and comments, is that everyone has their own views regarding what democracy means. The first thing that has to happen is that everone gets educated in what the simple word stands for. What is clear is that an election must be fair and the people and other parties must learn how to be graceful in defeat, wich simply means that they must wiat another 4 years until next election to win and get the chance to rule the country.

This is not hyper specific for just Thailand. It´s ongoing in many countries around the world. The solution is created by education and acceptance.

The only reason for the 06 Coup was to oust Thaksin , but no back up plan, so after Democratic elections , back in went the PTP , with Yingluck as P.M. now the latest Coup to remove Yingluck , but no back up plan, just where does Thailand go now, eventually back to Democracy , back to the PTP. and red shirts , nothing achieved .

Yeah! Definitely nothing achieved. To do that you must reform education, wich means re-teach the teachers and the one that are teaching them.......bla bla bla.... and so on.

See, it´s just a 100 year plan as always.

[MZurf]

This is not something new. It has been ongoing for long time in Thailand with broken government, unfair government, corrupt government and so on. Every time they fall or are ousted, it follows with some time of military regime.

Here it is also same every time. There is not anything that is sure about when the new election is going to be.

The big issue in this case, as we can here out of all the political parties remarks and comments, is that everyone has their own views regarding what democracy means. The first thing that has to happen is that everone gets educated in what the simple word stands for. What is clear is that an election must be fair and the people and other parties must learn how to be graceful in defeat, wich simply means that they must wiat another 4 years until next election to win and get the chance to rule the country.

This is not hyper specific for just Thailand. It´s ongoing in many countries around the world. The solution is created by education and acceptance.

The only reason for the 06 Coup was to oust Thaksin , but no back up plan, so after Democratic elections , back in went the PTP , with Yingluck as P.M. now the latest Coup to remove Yingluck , but no back up plan, just where does Thailand go now, eventually back to Democracy , back to the PTP. and red shirts , nothing achieved .

Exactly, rinse repeat. Every time there's a coup the whole process of governance in Thailand is set back, instead of letting it evolve one way or another. But, of course, the establishment won't allow that to happen because it's overwhelmingly likely that at some point this will end their choke hold on the country.

[JAG]

This is not something new. It has been ongoing for long time in Thailand with broken government, unfair government, corrupt government and so on. Every time they fall or are ousted, it follows with some time of military regime.

Here it is also same every time. There is not anything that is sure about when the new election is going to be.

The big issue in this case, as we can here out of all the political parties remarks and comments, is that everyone has their own views regarding what democracy means. The first thing that has to happen is that everone gets educated in what the simple word stands for. What is clear is that an election must be fair and the people and other parties must learn how to be graceful in defeat, wich simply means that they must wiat another 4 years until next election to win and get the chance to rule the country.

This is not hyper specific for just Thailand. It´s ongoing in many countries around the world. The solution is created by education and acceptance.

The only reason for the 06 Coup was to oust Thaksin , but no back up plan, so after Democratic elections , back in went the PTP , with Yingluck as P.M. now the latest Coup to remove Yingluck , but no back up plan, just where does Thailand go now, eventually back to Democracy , back to the PTP. and red shirts , nothing achieved .

Apart from confirming that, for better or worse, the Thai electorate want a Pheu Thai government.

Far from welcome news I know, both for many on this forum and for the "establishment" in Bangkok, but nevertheless it does rather seem to be the case.

Edited May 21, 2016 by JAG

[DrTuner]

Sounds like a sniper on the roof.

[deckape]

right timing to give the go-ahead

Yes, the day AFTER the vote on the charter.

Doh! Beat me to it.

[phoenixdoglover]

The PM does not do "magnanimous" very well.

Forget about this stuff.

I want to see the PM and Putin riding horses bare chested, and lying together on a bearskin rug.

[aussieinthailand]

After the referendum yes vote sails through, now we have that confirmed. Does seem a rather pointless and costly exercise.

And after the elections giving the current ptb the same power as the Myanmar military have just given up allowing the coutry to move out of the dark ages.

After what elections? Unless it was mis-translated, he couldn't even say whether there "will be an election or not" - not when a election might occur, but whether one will take place at all.

That's either an unfortunate mis-translation, or a pretty big Freudian slip from the man who's promised to restore democracy ever since overthrowing democracy.

I agree that his statement suggests that the outcome of the referendum is a fait accompli, but the biggest take away from the PM's statement is whether there will be an election or not.

Of course, this Freudian slip comes as no surprise to a lot of spectators - regardless of the outcome of the referendum, the factions the allowed him to seize the country won't allow him to give it up until his being in power has served its purpose - even if it takes a decade. There is no way they will accept the risk that the 'other mob' is in control of the country at some impending juncture, there is simply too much to lose.

Waiting for the few usual suspects to spin these two statements as, lost in translation or a miss understanding on both statements.

But as per usual the same few stay very very quiet when their hero of the nation has once again flapped his mouth and put his foot in it.

Seems he has some super special info on the sailing through of referendum, wow guy's impressive huh?

Such a shame he hasn't got the same info on an election,, Now just how many times has the date been changed? but now not even sure when there will be one.

So c'mon you lot that defended this bloke, defend him and his statements now....

[jamesbrock]

After the referendum yes vote sails through, now we have that confirmed. Does seem a rather pointless and costly exercise.

And after the elections giving the current ptb the same power as the Myanmar military have just given up allowing the coutry to move out of the dark ages.

After what elections? Unless it was mis-translated, he couldn't even say whether there "will be an election or not" - not when a election might occur, but whether one will take place at all.

That's either an unfortunate mis-translation, or a pretty big Freudian slip from the man who's promised to restore democracy ever since overthrowing democracy.

I agree that his statement suggests that the outcome of the referendum is a fait accompli, but the biggest take away from the PM's statement is whether there will be an election or not.

Of course, this Freudian slip comes as no surprise to a lot of spectators - regardless of the outcome of the referendum, the factions the allowed him to seize the country won't allow him to give it up until his being in power has served its purpose - even if it takes a decade. There is no way they will accept the risk that the 'other mob' is in control of the country at some impending juncture, there is simply too much to lose.

Waiting for the few usual suspects to spin these two statements as, lost in translation or a miss understanding on both statements.

But as per usual the same few stay very very quiet when their hero of the nation has once again flapped his mouth and put his foot in it.

Seems he has some super special info on the sailing through of referendum, wow guy's impressive huh?

Such a shame he hasn't got the same info on an election,, Now just how many times has the date been changed? but now not even sure when there will be one.

So c'mon you lot that defended this bloke, defend him and his statements now....

Now not even sure if there will be one - that's a very important distinction.

[Wilsonandson]

The PM does not do "magnanimous" very well.

Forget about this stuff.

I want to see the PM and Putin riding horses bare chested, and lying together on a bearskin rug.

Sharing a cocktail, talking about shopping vouchers and painting each others toe nails. Yes we all would like to see that. Sadly these two are still in the closet, one day, just one day maybe they'll come out and have a parade.

[Winniedapu]

What a load of nonsense. The man is just rattled by confiormations that what support he ever had is being whittled away by the stupid things he does and the stupider things he says.

And for as long as he does anything or says anything, it is likely to be stupid so the situation for him is more or less guaranteed to get worse.

My opinion.

Winnie

[Squeegee]

"...that their opinions would be known to the government..."

[snip]Nevermind[/snip]

Edited May 21, 2016 by Squeegee