Get up, stand up. Stand up when you ride.

[ktm jeff]

Empty fuel , post it via train. Common , easy and cheap.

[taninthai]

On Saturday, November 04, 2017 at 11:31 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Heads up for all trialers;

Advertised as a '99 RTL but looks more like a Honda/Montesa 315 Cota on B&S for 49k. Clean good looking bike.

It's your yellow one I'm interested in,,have a fetish for yellow bikes,,,,  I been back a week and the crf fired upfirst time after sitting for 6 months,biker l.ooks so sad more corrosion and rear brake seized,ordered new clutch 6 days before leaving and it failed to arrive ,so searching for somewhere that delivers Thailand now

[papa al]

10 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

Empty fuel , post it via train. Common , easy and cheap.

no train ChiangRai

&

seems need registration for train/bus/PO/...

[otherwise, good idea...]

[papa al]

...believe papa/seller have come to terms,

delivered.

wohooo!

[thaiguzzi]

14 hours ago, papa al said:

I'd like to buy this bike but have no way to transport it from Chiang Rai to Pattaya.

 

Road trip.

Take a friend, your favourite bar girl or your best mate. . Hire a pick up truck. Make a little holiday/adventure out of it.

 

Edit. Just seen the above post. Good Man !!!

 

You mentioned you'd bought it as back up for your Climber. I'd tend to disagree, and unfortunately, I reckon your Climber is quickly going to be relegated as back up to this Montesa (Honda)...

[thaiguzzi]

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 4:49 PM, Issanman said:

R U sure?

 

 

That is the first time I've ever seen a polished magnesium side cover. I machined a fair bit of the stuff for my Triumph drag racer back in the UK in the mid '90's, and "pickled" it to stop corrosion. My ty mono's have magnesium brake plates and side covers and they are painted black. Natural magnesium normally needs some sort of protective coating - it corrodes like mad especially near water.

Edit - perhaps that cover has several coats of clear lacquer on?

Frame looks almost the same as a 2 y/o 4RT. Papa Al is onto a winner!

[thaiguzzi]

13 hours ago, taninthai said:

It's your yellow one I'm interested in,,have a fetish for yellow bikes,,,,  I been back a week and the crf fired upfirst time after sitting for 6 months,biker l.ooks so sad more corrosion and rear brake seized,ordered new clutch 6 days before leaving and it failed to arrive ,so searching for somewhere that delivers Thailand now

You can have a basket case (complete bike built up) for "Spares or Repairs" for 15k out of the two bikes left over here from the four I bought. Will recquire at a minimum a cdi and coil (70 quid) to just get running, and probably a stator re-wind. It will be rough, but doable and workable.

I'll even throw the spare (now repaired) Yeller steel tank in for free....

 

Was out on 'Ol Yeller this morning. 45 mins is damn good exercise before it gets too hot.

Watched (again) the Ryan Young training video yesterday, changed my tight turn style after taking in all Ryan told me.... Transformed my riding, using footpeg weighting and straight inside leg, bent outside leg, rather than relying on h/bar pressure and arm movement. Good fun!!

[ktm jeff]

On 15/11/2017 at 2:26 AM, papa al said:

no train ChiangRai

&

seems need registration for train/bus/PO/...

[otherwise, good idea...]

OOPS !.   Sounds like your sorted now , nice one. Enjoy.

[ktm jeff]

On 15/11/2017 at 6:00 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Road trip.

Take a friend, your favourite bar girl or your best mate. . Hire a pick up truck. Make a little holiday/adventure out of it.

 

Edit. Just seen the above post. Good Man !!!

 

You mentioned you'd bought it as back up for your Climber. I'd tend to disagree, and unfortunately, I reckon your Climber is quickly going to be relegated as back up to this Montesa (Honda)...

Thats got to be the best damm excuse to take a BG away for the weekend , ive ever heard. Might be using that one myself. 

[papa al]

Expecting deliver Sunday morning a KMK.

[papa al]

Looking for online sources for specs, parts, &c

for this bike.

papa's searching so far no good.

1998 Honda RTL250

2T, water-cooled

[thaiguzzi]

3 hours ago, papa al said:

Looking for online sources for specs, parts, &c

for this bike.

papa's searching so far no good.

1998 Honda RTL250

2T, water-cooled

Sent you an email.

Frame is similar to a 2017 4RT 4 stroke that Bou rides. Also similar to the last of the Montesa 315 series (250cc 2T).

[papa al]

Expecting delivery his afternoon

to KhawMaeKeow garage.

 

Meanwhile, rode the 15K loop. [Sat]

The downed trees have been cleared.

 

Then took Climber over to local mechanic.

Had him change front fork-seals and

install dust caps &

new neoprene gaitors.

It took him all afternoon until dark,

but prolly got it right.

 

Enduro races KMK mid-December.

 

[thaiguzzi]

On ‎11‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 1:07 PM, papa al said:

Looking for online sources for specs, parts, &c

for this bike.

papa's searching so far no good.

1998 Honda RTL250

2T, water-cooled

As I thought and has been confirmed to you on both the trials specific forums you asked.

It's a Montesa 315 Cota - very very capable bike. More bike than you and me know what to do with!

Worldwide = Montesa 315 Cota, Japan market only = Honda RTL. There's your answer; Jap import RTL. All spares, manuals etc search for Montesa 315 Cota.

 In fact if i'd bought that bike, i'd replace all the Honda decals etc WITH Montesa anyway.

Just 'cos I don't like The Big Corporate Red H....

[papa al]

'Montesa 315 Cota' does sound cooler 

than Honda RTL250!

 

I guess the bike was delivered last night.

Dint make it out to KMK this AM &

T-storms this PM so

early 2-mor

Buddha willing.

[papa al]

Took the Cota for a ride this AM.

She's powerful.

 

Bike seems in good condition, except

one of the rear spokes is half missing.

The kind of spoke with 2 parts

and the turnbuckle in the middle.

 

Tires:

Rear is 2004 manufactured Michelin,

checked & worn.

Front is a trail tire not a trials tire.

Will order new.

 

[thaiguzzi]

23 hours ago, papa al said:

Took the Cota for a ride this AM.

She's powerful.

 

Bike seems in good condition, except

one of the rear spokes is half missing.

The kind of spoke with 2 parts

and the turnbuckle in the middle.

 

Tires:

Rear is 2004 manufactured Michelin,

checked & worn.

Front is a trail tire not a trials tire.

Will order new.

 

What price did it cost you in the end?

And where are you buying your trials tyres from here in TH?

[papa al]

Last year ordered a pair directly from VeeRubber

B3404 delivered to me.

These are mounted for Lifan.

DOT.

 

Put a pair of IRC on Climber

from local dealer

cost almost twice as much.

 

 

Going for Vee for COTA.

 

[thaiguzzi]

23 hours ago, papa al said:

Last year ordered a pair directly from VeeRubber

B3404 delivered to me.

These are mounted for Lifan.

DOT.

 

Put a pair of IRC on Climber

from local dealer

cost almost twice as much.

 

 

Going for Vee for COTA.

 

# IRC trials tyres locally to you in Pattaya?

# Those modern rear rims with the 2 (3) piece spokes which allow tubeless tyres - really like them, and they look great. I think spokes will be pretty universal from most bike makes - should be able to buy from GG, Sherco, Beta etc. And an easy fit, don't even have to take the tyre off - brilliant!

[papa al]

7 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

# IRC trials tyres locally to you in Pattaya?

# Those modern rear rims with the 2 (3) piece spokes which allow tubeless tyres - really like them, and they look great. I think spokes will be pretty universal from most bike makes - should be able to buy from GG, Sherco, Beta etc. And an easy fit, don't even have to take the tyre off - brilliant!

1# Yes, had local M/C tire shop order.

~B6K    IIRC.

2# If only.

Spoke configurations vary,

even between 1997 and 1998 / 

1998 and 2000 Cota model years.

Looks like a US shop can sell me one 3-piece spoke for about $10 + shipping.

A new set of 36,

from local Thai source 

would be nice.

Do bikes other than Trials bikes use this flanged rim/

3-piece spoke configuration?

---->Bike seems to roll ok none-the-less.

 

[Rhys]

NICE.. bike...

[thaiguzzi]

On ‎11‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 11:31 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Heads up for all trialers;

Advertised as a '99 RTL but looks more like a Honda/Montesa 315 Cota on B&S for 49k. Clean good looking bike.

Ha!

Wait all day for one bus and then two show up one after the other....

Another RLT (Montesa Cota 315R) shown up on my weekly perusal of B&S.

2003 model, located in HH, 59k, again, looks a fair price.

Papa Al - note - he's selling spares included, including..... spokes.......... Might be worth a phone call...........

[papa al]

54 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Ha!

Another RLT (Montesa Cota 315R) shown up on my weekly perusal of B&S.

2003 model, located in HH, 59k, again, looks a fair price.

Papa Al - note - he's selling spares included, including..... spokes.......... Might be worth a phone call...........

E-mailed him aboot spokes a couple days ago.

[papa al]

2 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

 

2003 model

Papa Al - note - he's selling spares included, including..... spokes.......... Might be worth a phone call...........

Rim configuration varies by model year.

'03 spokes not same '98.

/Honda parts book.

A shop in Pennsylvania is sending me a spoke,

only $25.05.

[papa al]

Honda ’89 RTL250; nee Montesa 315R Cota.

250cc, 2T, HOH-cooled…

So this is what a modern trials bike feels like.

Wicked strong.

Feed her a little gas and she goes!

Feed her a lot of  gas,

dunno, papa not man enough to try.

Comparison with the 

  Yamaha YX-Z 135–>144(not sure)cc Climber.

Cota high compression.

Kick-starting requires a manly stomp,

with things lined up just so.

   vs a smart little stab or 

   maybe roll it forward a bit and 

   bump the -Zed to life.

Same with compression-braking on the down-clines.

Cora, considerable vs.

   -Zed, minimal.

The Cota seems to have a steeper head angle

She wants to turn, not 

   run straight down the trail

   as does -Zed.

So, all-in-all, for running down a moderate twisty single-track,

need to on-off/blip the throttle de Cota vs

  just cruZ along.

Cota has strong brakes, quick-acting.

   Climber, not so much, the rear being especially sketchy.

papa rode the KMK 15km loop twice yesty.

First Cota then Climber. 

Burned 1.5   vs     0.6 liters fuel.

Fuel capacity 2.2   vs

    ~3.2 (guesstimating) liters.

[... Climber has 2.5x the fuel economy &

1.5x the tankage. so 

should have 3.75 x the range.

 

[Damrongsak]

12 hours ago, papa al said:

... A shop in Pennsylvania is sending me a spoke,

only $25.05.

For that price, they should also tickle your arse with a feather, 555.

 

"Kick-starting requires a manly stomp, with things lined up just so."

 

So what else is new with Thai wives of many years?  Muscle tone keeps you alive.

 

Papa Al,  here's a good tutorial of how to ride trials.  Work on it and post a video of your progress soon.

 

 

[papa al]

On 11/21/2017 at 12:09 PM, papa al said:

Last year ordered a pair directly from VeeRubber

B3404 delivered to me.

Going for Vee for COTA.

Tires:

"Rear is 2004 manufactured Michelin,

checked & worn.

Front is a trail tire not a trials tire.

Will order new."

Quote

 

Ordered them.

Transferred B3404 to VR account Monday 10AM 

[2 days ago]

and tires showed up at my door about 1PM

today.

Not bad.

Will have my mechanic mount these puppies

2mor AM.

[papa al]

papa rode ceeber out to KMK

with the new tires around the body,

Thai-style.

Pretty comfy;

can rest elbows .

My mechanic mounted the new tires 

B200.

Checking out the date-of-manufacture stamps,

front was manufactured the 46th week in 2017

and the rear, the 47th week of 2017.

That is like this week.

...still warm....

[papa al]

On 11/24/2017 at 5:31 PM, papa al said:

Rim configuration varies by model year.

'03 spokes not same '98.

/Honda parts book.

A shop in Pennsylvania is sending me a spoke,

only $25.05.

B800 spoke:

 

[papa al]

Took the spoke in to my Thai -cy shop at KMK

but they cannot.

Drat.

 

Rode the Climber on a 10km loop

doing a trail papa recently discovered.

Fun, bigly.

Things are drying -up.