rooster59 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 PM against presentation of suspects before the media BANGKOK:-- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha has issued a directive for the police that, from now on, suspects arrested by the police or the military must not be presented before the media at a press conference as such act amounts to a violation of human rights. The prime minister’s directive regarding the presentation of suspects before the media which is commonly practised by the police was disclosed by Mr Thawatchai Thaikhieu, deputy permanent secretary for justice, in a message posted in the Facebook page on Saturday. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-presentation-suspects-media/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) also saves face for the hi-so's, rich and well named/connected Edited September 3, 2016 by seajae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Well, I have to say I agree with him, for once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, seajae said: also saves face for the hi-so's, rich and well named/connected Not so sure I would poop on this one so quickly. Regardless of his motivations, most of the people who get perp walked in front of the media are no hi-so's so it's really providing the most protection for those who the police rush to accuse and then demonize in front of the cameras for their own glory. These people have not had a trial, have not been found guilty, but are put out to the public as if they were which causes them great harm both in seeking justice as well as in their personal lives (in the event they are found not-guilty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 About time. This is banana republic buffoonery is only intended to show the world's most incompetent cops in a good light. It contributes nothing to the judicial process. Now let's hope that the next move is to wipe out scapegoating - and all those innocent people in prisons (some estimates are as high as 50%) can get justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Inactive pointing fingers can always be re trained for nose picking I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The stuttering parrot Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Human rights like section 44? What about the human rights of the people rounded up for dare voicing a different opinion on the referendum ? I could go on but everyone pretty much knows the history of the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 If they intend to keep suspect criminals away from the media will this be the end of the PM's daily press conference gaffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Well <deleted> me sideways! Would never had thought this would happen. One of so few great things done by the General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 "Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha has issued a directive for the police that, from now on, suspects arrested by the police or the military must not be presented before the media at a press conference..." Now, they will have to point their fingers at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Blimey! April Fool's Day came early! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 There are no juries in Thailand, only a judge decides who is guilty or not. So parading suspects in the media cannot influence juries as may be the case in it other countries. He just changes something that has no effect, but of course doesn't change other more important matters. For example that suspects should not be interrogated by the police and charged without the presence of a lawyer (i. e. Kho Tao case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, The stuttering parrot said: Human rights like section 44? What about the human rights of the people rounded up for dare voicing a different opinion on the referendum ? I could go on but everyone pretty much knows the history of the last few years. According to iLaw (https://ilaw.or.th), in the two years since the coup, 926 people have been "invited for discussions" with the military, 527 have been arrested, 47 have been charged under the Sedition Law, and 167 civilians have been tried in military courts with no right of appeal. In April 2016 alone, four people were summonsed to meet with the RTA, 10 were arrested for peaceful demonstrations, three people were arrested for lese majeste, and nine people were tried in military courts. If the military was really concerned about human rights, it would thoroughly investigate the serious allegations against Mrs Chicken rather than charge her with LM violations and hope the public forget the high ranking police and military officials assisting her human trafficking business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Fantastic move. I'm impressed. These media parades are only for the police to show off they caught somebody. Guilty or not. They need to stop. Congrats to the PM for making this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Very good and not before time but it's a pity he mentioned human rights, not really his thing is it ? Now will he do something about the total unnecessary re-enactments the BIB just love simply to get themselves in the media and which add nothing to the investigation but so often end up in a crowd control problem due to mis-handling, again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Bittersweet. It is of course the right thing to do, but we all know the absurdity of the photos provided regular entertainment. Fortunately the BIB are born entertainers and I am positive they won't let us down. The show must go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, jerojero said: Well <deleted> me sideways! Would never had thought this would happen. One of so few great things done by the General. Um, this is Thailand, we have yet to see it actually happen, we hope it goes against the tide, and does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robcar Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Sooooo, does this mean that all those that have been humiliated in this way, and found not guilty of the accused crime, will get an apology and be suitably compensated from government funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster59 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Share Posted September 4, 2016 Police to stop bringing suspects to press meets THE SUNDAY NATION BANGKOK:-- THE Royal Thai Police will comply with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha’s order not to bring criminal suspects to their press conferences as the practice is in breach of human rights, police spokesman Pol General Dejnarong Sutthicharn-bancha said yesterday. He said he had not yet seen the official order but personally agreed with it and believed it would not adversely affect police work. Justice Ministry deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikiew said that Prayut issued the order after the ministry presented him a weekly human rights violation report dated August 3 that bringing suspects to press conferences has negative consequences for them. Whether they are finally acquitted of all charges and freed or they are convicted, they would have difficulties adjusting back in society because of the stigma. The PM's order requires the Royal Thai Police to issue directives to all police across the country not to bring suspects to press conferences, Thawatchai said, adding the police can only announce achievements. Thawatchai said the suspects exposed during press conferences face adverse consequences because society may not accept them back and this could force them into committing more crimes. A senior police source said the police always respect human rights and law. Before calling a press conference, police give papers for the suspects to sign their consent to be present at a press conference. The police would not bring the suspects to any press conference without their consent, he said. Backing the previous practice, the source said, "On the contrary, showing faces of suspects is part of a warning for society to be vigilant of criminal elements." Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Police-to-stop-bringing-suspects-to-press-meets-30294459.html -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-09-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Police to stop bringing suspects to press meets THE SUNDAY NATION BANGKOK:-- THE Royal Thai Police will comply with Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha’s order not to bring criminal suspects to their press conferences as the practice is in breach of human rights, police spokesman Pol General Dejnarong Sutthicharn-bancha said yesterday. He said he had not yet seen the official order but personally agreed with it and believed it would not adversely affect police work. Justice Ministry deputy permanent secretary Thawatchai Thaikiew said that Prayut issued the order after the ministry presented him a weekly human rights violation report dated August 3 that bringing suspects to press conferences has negative consequences for them. Whether they are finally acquitted of all charges and freed or they are convicted, they would have difficulties adjusting back in society because of the stigma. The PM's order requires the Royal Thai Police to issue directives to all police across the country not to bring suspects to press conferences, Thawatchai said, adding the police can only announce achievements. Thawatchai said the suspects exposed during press conferences face adverse consequences because society may not accept them back and this could force them into committing more crimes. A senior police source said the police always respect human rights and law. Before calling a press conference, police give papers for the suspects to sign their consent to be present at a press conference. The police would not bring the suspects to any press conference without their consent, he said. Backing the previous practice, the source said, "On the contrary, showing faces of suspects is part of a warning for society to be vigilant of criminal elements." Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Police-to-stop-bringing-suspects-to-press-meets-30294459.html -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-09-04 Last two paragraphs are a hoot... speaking on the side of the mouth is an art form here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Caveat Emptor said: Very good and not before time but it's a pity he mentioned human rights, not really his thing is it ? Now will he do something about the total unnecessary re-enactments the BIB just love simply to get themselves in the media and which add nothing to the investigation but so often end up in a crowd control problem due to mis-handling, again ! Yes, I agree that it is a very good move by the PM. There is a current story of an Australian woman and her British boyfriend accused of murdering a police officer in Bali - I was surprised to see them both taken to the scene of the crime for a re-enactment. I didn't realise this was a thing outside of Thailand! 1 hour ago, canuckamuck said: Bittersweet. It is of course the right thing to do, but we all know the absurdity of the photos provided regular entertainment. Fortunately the BIB are born entertainers and I am positive they won't let us down. The show must go on. This one is certainly an entertainer: "A senior police source said the police always respect human rights and law. Before calling a press conference, police give papers for the suspects to sign their consent to be present at a press conference. The police would not bring the suspects to any press conference without their consent, he said." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Whereas in a normal country I would commend such an order since parading people is clearly unacceptable.....this is Thailand. If there is one advantage in this parading it is that it proves that the accused are in police custody and in reasonable physical condition. Now it will be just a little easier to deny people have been detained and that they have been injured in police custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 9 hours ago, tominbkk said: Well, I have to say I agree with him, for once! Anything with human rights these days and Prayut turns to water, this week they are s*****t frightened of sanctions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 the Thai police catch so few criminals they need to display them to justify their existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Oh dear; the end of the goon show. What will the Police pretend they are doing now then ? A lot of them only joined to get on TV ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 48 minutes ago, Denim said: Whereas in a normal country I would commend such an order since parading people is clearly unacceptable.....this is Thailand. If there is one advantage in this parading it is that it proves that the accused are in police custody and in reasonable physical condition. Now it will be just a little easier to deny people have been detained and that they have been injured in police custody. Sorry mate, but this doesn't make sense. The police have always been able to brutalize someone or make them disappear. The press conferences were mostly about self-aggrandizement, evidenced by the rows of medals and puffed up chests when the cameras start snapping. (Who can forget the odious, self-important Chalerm - I wonder which hole he is quivering in these days? - rushing to crime pressers around the country just to get his picture in the papers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, jamesbrock said: Yes, I agree that it is a very good move by the PM. There is a current story of an Australian woman and her British boyfriend accused of murdering a police officer in Bali - I was surprised to see them both taken to the scene of the crime for a re-enactment. I didn't realise this was a thing outside of Thailand! This one is certainly an entertainer: "A senior police source said the police always respect human rights and law. Before calling a press conference, police give papers for the suspects to sign their consent to be present at a press conference. The police would not bring the suspects to any press conference without their consent, he said." Re-enactments are used elsewhere but perhaps the word ' sparingly ' is appropriate and for a very specific purpose not just a way for the police to try and , pretend their on the ball look good and get publicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 This will also make it easier to make 'suspects' who upset the junta 'disappear' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 So what now? we are not going to see the photo opp of the usual bunch of ranking cops with their full regalia smiling to the cameras in front of a grimed face accused any longer? I'm going to miss that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Finally......Although it came from a rather surprising person...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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