webfact Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Police chief says Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if arrested BANGKOK: -- Phra Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if he was arrested because police have given a chance to turn himself in to acknowledge the charges against him, Pol Gen Chakthip Chaichinda, the chief of the Royal Thai Police Office, said today. He is confident that the embattled abbot of Wat Dhammakaya is still somewhere in the temple and has not escaped out of the country. He declined to comment whether the monk is still sick or not. The police chief said that the criminal case against Dhammachayo has dragged on for a long time and he wanted the case to settle once and for all. However, he noted that the case had to be handled with great caution so that it would not impact on Buddhism in general. The national police chief disclosed that seven companies of police had been put on standby to provide support to the Department of Special Investigation in case the department decided to raid the temple in order to make the arrest. He disclosed that Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha was concerned with the case after it was the temple had allegedly mobilized its faithful followers to come to the temple to join the mass prayer. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-chief-says-dhammachayo-will-not-be-granted-bail-if-arrested/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctormann Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 'If' being the appropriate word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 The case has to be handles with great caution so it will not impact Buddhism in general ! Well then it already has an impact and was started by the abbot who has kept it going by running rings around the authorities who in turn are complicit because they can't or won't do their duty so the issue remains a massive joke and remains in the headlines. Is the ' impact on Buddhism ' angle being lined up as a final determination to allow dropping the whole thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 To describe this as ludicrous would be too kind!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the guest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 You couldn't make this up could you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, the guest said: You couldn't make this up could you ! But they do......daily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I thought granting bail is a function of the court, not the police chief. Foot in mouth again. Gaffe like this will irate and fire up the temple followers and build upon their beliefs that the monk has not been treated fairly. Thoughtless by the highest ranking police officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I feel they really dont want to arrest him anyway,maybe it would open a big can of worms,the Abbot knows a lot of secrets,so it would seem this is all just a lot of huffing and puffing,and nobody will ever be arrested. IF they really wanted to arrest him they could at least tried by now, instead of issuing all these final deadlines,for him to turn himself in. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, NongKhaiKid said: The case has to be handles with great caution so it will not impact Buddhism in general ! Well then it already has an impact and was started by the abbot who has kept it going by running rings around the authorities who in turn are complicit because they can't or won't do their duty so the issue remains a massive joke and remains in the headlines. Is the ' impact on Buddhism ' angle being lined up as a final determination to allow dropping the whole thing ? Forgive me if Im wrong here, but is it really Buddhism in the first place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Will this be concluded in time for the PM to have it in his annual list of achievements ? Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just now, nikmar said: Forgive me if Im wrong here, but is it really Buddhism in the first place!! Buddhism Thai style ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 "Police chief says Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if arrested" Actual headline Police chief says he hopes Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if and when he is arrested. More realistic headline. It is not within the Police Chief's purview to grant or deny bail. Just get the man into custody first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) When did the police chief get the power to grant bail? Is the police chief seating on the Supreme Court now? This is justice in Thailand. Edited December 7, 2016 by Mango Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, doctormann said: 'If' being the appropriate word! ....and "if" my grandmother had balls, she'd be my grandfather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Nobody in authority in Thailand has the balls to arrest Dhammachayo. He will continue to make fools of them, and he knows it. The DSI have made a mess of this from the start, now they are in a no win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 hours ago, webfact said: noted that the case had to be handled with great caution so that it would not impact on Buddhism in general. Would not impact on Buddhism or the General??? Maybe I did not read this right. I thought the monk made a deal on getting bail?? He took to long and they withdrew the offer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveE13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I always look forward to the weekly will they wont they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymonddiaz Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 no bail so no arrest alive.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 6 hours ago, webfact said: The police chief said that the criminal case against Dhammachayo has dragged on for a long time and he wanted the case to settle once and for all. However, he noted that the case had to be handled with great caution so that it would not impact on Buddhism in general. That will come as a great relief to Dhammachayo, he can see out the rest of this life unmolested in the temple. Business as usual !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I believe the powers in charge are afraid of bad publicity should they have to send in hundreds of armed police/troops to arrest a monk or get into a physical confrontation with the temple followers. It would probably be wise to guarantee bail and then let the prosecutors and courts figure the rest out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 10 hours ago, ratcatcher said: "Police chief says Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if arrested" Actual headline Police chief says he hopes Dhammachayo will not be granted bail if and when he is arrested. More realistic headline. It is not within the Police Chief's purview to grant or deny bail. Just get the man into custody first. Yes, RC. Police can oppose bail but the decision is not their's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I can not understand why the police as an executive investigative authority can decide about Bail or not.In many other legal systems, a judge decides on freedom against bail.The danger of abuse, that the police can already decide in the investigation phase on a release, without a prosecutor or judge is heard, is much too large. Usually, the police Investigates, the prosecutor accuses and the judge decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 IF arrested. That says all there is to say about this ongoing farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Make him do 20 push ups, or run around a motorcycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 12 hours ago, Mango Bob said: When did the police chief get the power to grant bail? Is the police chief seating on the Supreme Court now? This is justice in Thailand. Police bail is commonly used and well known as well as court authorised bail. In this case, though, it is the OAG that makes the decision and it is out of his hands as the RTP Chief commented yesterday. The Supreme Court doesn't come into it at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 17 hours ago, webfact said: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha was concerned with the case So concerned that he dismissed the use of Article 44 and the military to arrest Dhammakaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 With all the pork pies the RTB tell here in lieland,why didnt they just say "yeah mate no problem"? And then tell him "oop's big boss just have change of heart,so solly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 A post containing content from Bangkok Post has been removed: 26) The Bangkok Post and Phuketwan do not allow quotes from their news articles or other material to appear on Thaivisa.com. Neither do they allow links to their publications. Posts from members containing quotes from or links to Bangkok Post or Phuketwan publications will be deleted from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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