webfact Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Twenty billion baht tram projects set to transform Pattaya! Image: Pattaya Watchdog Group PATTAYA: -- Two tram lines are "coming for sure" and are set to transform Pattaya, said a watchdog group on Facebook. Pattaya Watchdog posted a map of the Red and Blue lines that will go in loops around the beach and roads behind respectively. Phase 1 is the Red Line for which there is a budget of 8 billion baht for a planned 8 kilometer loop. This will go from North Pattaya along the beach and back again on Sai 2 road. The other project is the Blue Line that will share some track in North Pattaya before traversing a more inland route. The watchdog group said there was still some confusion as to the exact route the Blue Line it might take as the projects are still in the planning stage. The Blue Line is set to be built later with a 12 billion baht budget. A total of 103 million baht is being spent on "design" for the two lines. The existing roads will be used for the trams after earlier ideas for an above ground project were rejected, said the watchdog. A "switch station" to connect the two lines will be constructed in North Pattaya enabling transfers from one to the other. Parking will be available in a lot at the start of the route. The group said that the tram was the most eagerly anticipated addition to Pattaya in a swathe of infrastructure plans for the resort that include improvements to the Bali Hai and Koh Larn ports, roads to Rayong and Sattahip and drainage within the city. They said that the tram was still in the planning stage but was coming for sure. Source: Pattaya Watchdog Group -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-05-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is it April 1st ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Suggest they complete the 'tunnel' first ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Quote The group said that the tram was the most eagerly anticipated addition to Pattaya Especially anticipated by those that see it as a new 'snout in the trough ' opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Most of us "expats" will be dead long before it is built , and the way things are going ,the same with the opening of the tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezflip Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is it me or does it look like the red line will go through the red light district (walking street)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Bet this has not been passed by the baht bus mafia, er co-operative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: Bet this has not been passed by the baht bus mafia, er co-operative. Who will park their vehicles across the tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Great idea. I hope it comes to fruition. It will be a boon to the city, if it transpires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 How big is that piggy bank ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I understand that this must have some drooling. A 20 BILLION baht project will fill a lot of pockets. So I would think approval is a sure thing. Completion, on the other hand, well you pays your money and you takes your chances. The taxi/baht bus maffioso will surely have something to say about this, and there is the disruption that will occur on the roads involved - think MASSIVE traffic congestion, possibly even worse than the Sukhumvit tunnel. Time frame for completion? Maybe 20 years, and with massive budget overruns, of course. This would actually be great, if it were ever to be completed AND operational. I wonder if they have figured out how they will keep the tracks free of cars? And what about maintenance? Do they have a maintenance budget? But at least it's a good idea, and practical too. I wonder how much the fares will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 hour ago, bert bloggs said: Most of us "expats" will be dead long before it is built , and the way things are going ,the same with the opening of the tunnel ....and so what ? New very alive tourists will have the benefit of all traffic improvements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 They must be smoking seriously good quality weed lately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Not being from Britain, what's a tram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 great idea .... hope it happens ... well done Khun Prayuth Can O Cha .... !! of coarse .... the nayers will always present themselves no matter what is proposed. there are some farang you just can't please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everett kendall Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Burning QUESTIONS ? We now compete with Motorcycles, baht buses, large buses, trucks of all kinds and cars to travel those roads. And I am not even mentioning PARKED VEHICLES. AND they are now going to add TRAMS? Most of those roads are 2 LANE, But I counted the other day and one lane is shared with parked vehicles. the OTHER LANE is shared with motorcycles and cars/truck and a second land of motorcycles. for a total of 4 lanes going in one direction on 2 lanes. And of course it is the same on the other side of the street. Dream: they make the BIG ass buses park outside and the passengers take the Tram into town. LMAO NOTE: the Tunnel is now labeled Underpass. Ya I thought Tunnel was a bit of a stretch myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 My estimate...........the project will be finished in about 20 years at a cost of at least THB 30-35bn. If this THB 105mn project-group will think a little harder, they can save at least half if they're able to present a plan to improve the current infrastructure in Pattaya and that includes an elevated stretch of Sukhumvit from Banglamung to the Makro area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Not being from Britain, what's a tram? Think street-car. (Not necessarily named Desire.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: A total of 103 million baht is being spent on "design" for the two lines. Someone's on a money-spinner there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 this project is nonsense. the same result can be achieved with shuttle buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 47 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Not being from Britain, what's a tram? OR.............. Depending how much money gets side tracked........pun intended..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldgit Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: Not being from Britain, what's a tram? Same as they have in Holland, Belgium, Hong Kong, Turkey, Australia, Switzerland, USA, Canada, Portugal and no doubt many more countries around the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: Twenty billion baht tram projects The actual cost is 5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The existing roads will be used for the trams after earlier ideas for an above ground project were rejected, said the watchdog. There the problem use existing roads just more traffic chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Will the tram have wheels instead of run on tracks ?....if tracks then lots of motorbike crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark01 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Someone's (or some people) are going to make a tidy bit of cash from this pipe dream. It will not happen in my lifetime. <deleted>, they can't even move water from beach road, to the beach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 great idea .... hope it happens ... well done Khun Prayuth Can O Cha .... !! of coarse .... the nayers will always present themselves no matter what is proposed. there are some farang you just can't please I will show this to my wife tonight. She works for Germans building this stuff. My guess is that project is in the fantasy stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehs818 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Many zany ideas get bounced around in Pattaya. Most never come to fruition. In reviewing this map, I don't understand where the Blue Line goes, apart from Sukhumvit. And also I'm confused why the two lines don't connect along the southern part of the map. I won't ever have to worry about it as I'll be dead before it ever gets completed. But it seems like a bit more planning might be called for, or at least the release of the full current plan to review. Edited May 30, 2017 by ehs818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Might be cheaper to get some Police to start kicking out the parking hogs and open up the roads to the traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I guess soon as the trams are riding down town then they will start with the Bali Hai park and finish the beach nourishment project.I can vision it all already with closed eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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