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Twenty billion baht tram projects set to transform Pattaya!


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1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:

Not being from Britain, what's a tram? 

The TUBE, but up in the fresh air!    They call it a light rail here in QLD, but it's a tram.

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1 hour ago, steven100 said:

great idea ....  hope it happens ...  well done Khun Prayuth Can O Cha ....   !!

 

of coarse .... the nayers will always present themselves no matter what is proposed.

there are some farang you just can't please :passifier:

Garbage idea. Baht buses are brilliant. Always availabe and cheap.

 

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Any sort of public transportation is a good thing. It can become the lifeline of a city. Pattaya desperately needs an alternative to the baht buses. The congestion there is intense, at times. But, a plan like this requires visions and fortitude. Will it happen? One can only hope.

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Now we know why all electricity cables are going underground.


To electrify the tram lines ?
What about when it floods wont the water cause a direct conection between + and - rails ?

If its going to be an electric tramline maybe best to keep the wires overhead.....as a by product it could stop the double decker tour busses
from using the tram route due to height restriction.
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17 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Garbage idea. Baht buses are brilliant. Always availabe and cheap.

 

Try to get a cheap baht bus from the North Pattaya bus station to the Thepprasit market.

 

Around the loop of central Pattaya,  they are ok as long as it's not raining.  A pain for other destinations. And definitely not cheap nor comfortable.

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1 hour ago, steven100 said:

great idea ....  hope it happens ...  well done Khun Prayuth Can O Cha ....   !!

 

of coarse .... the nayers will always present themselves no matter what is proposed.

there are some farang you just can't please :passifier:

Present and ready to say nay !   You should put that at the bottom of most of your posts.

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

8 billion baht for a planned 8 kilometer loop.

Was told that 1 kilometer of track costs B30millio.  B30million x 8 =  B24million .  How is the other B7.76billion going to be spent ?   Means little to the Farang.  Might mean something to the poor, beat down Thai. 

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4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Is it April 1st ? :cheesy:

Might a trolleybus project not be less demanding, cheaper and easier to build?

Less noise as trams, cheaper to buy buses instead of rail vehicles, and above all, a tram using the same roads as all the other traffic will be very slow.

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Ok but would seem counterproductive
they put the cables underground and then have to put up a new set of cables for the tramline... why not use the existing overhead infrastructure (tidied up ) and save a bit of cost and inconvenience digging up the road to move cables underground then again to lay tram lines and overhead cables.

Anyway maybe the tram will run on wheels and be battery/solar powered with LPG generator backup and for the aircon.
It will be as cheap as a songthew ride and fully endorsed by the Pattaya Taxi cooperative too ! :D

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3 hours ago, champers said:

Great idea. I hope it comes to fruition. It will be a boon to the city, if it transpires.

Yeah. Can finally see the back of the a55hole baht bus drivers and crook taxi drivers..

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2 hours ago, WhizBang said:

I understand that this must have some drooling. 

Judging by the first few posts in this thread, not so much drooling as foaming at the mouth.

 

1 hour ago, manarak said:

the same result can be achieved with shuttle buses.

They've tried a shuttle bus service at least once circa 2005. Not that popular. Aimed mostly for tourists, so the locals who tend to use baht buses and motorcy taxis ignored them, but they did add to the traffic congestion.

 

 

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Pattaya City has introduced a new air-conditioned bus service with scheduled stops along designated routes. This bus service is esigned to help tourists get around the resort city, the Pattaya beach bus service consists of three lines - Green, Red and Yellow. These cover the main streets of Pattaya, Naklua and Jomtien respectively

Each line has been assigned a different colour to make it easier for passengers to identify the routes. Bus stops are also colour coded and numbered so passengers know where to board and disembark.

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Future plans include the addition of facilities for wheelchairs to assist handicapped persons, and the introduction of open-deck tourist buses for sightseeing in 2006.

 

 

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I think probably they will stop buses and cars using this route. Clear the streets , make a good project work. They put in tram lines in the centre of Nice, which is a very busy city, and it's fantastic ! Cars only allowed at drop offs for hotels and hospitals. Bus / taxi park outside the city. Great idea. It's not that big in central Pattaya, easy to do if done right. 

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Its a great Idea but they cannot sort out the flooding problem along Beach Road 2 pumps they installed a couple of years ago they are useless, how can they undertake a tram system just talk talk ..

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4 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

Most of us "expats" will be dead long before it is built , and the way things are going ,the same with the opening of the tunnel

When it comes to the time between project proposals made and project completion or monumental cost overruns, I don't think Thailand wins the booby prize.

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Go to Sheffield or Nottingham or many French cities and see the benefits of modern trams. 

 

Fit large cow catchers on the front of each tram to scoop up motorcycles, baht buses, taxis and marauding ladyboys to solve any obstruction problems!

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I think it's a great idea, I hope it will be realized.

 

I hope it will be the elevated type, something like the sky train in Bangkok.

 

Sentosa island off Singapore have a nice tram train, or mono rail or whatever you wanna call it.

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