madox66 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I’ve been shopping at Friendship supermarket (Pattaya Thai) since 20 years. They have changed the parking lot and now you must stop motorbikes on the left side take a time and date stamp, have it stamped again by a cashier ( only if you buy something and your product isn’t out of stock) You cannot have a chat if you meet a friend because you’re going to run out of time and who knows what can happen. I did all this this morning and when I left, I drove through the nearest entrance instead of the Exit way on the left. The security guard (hat, sunglasses and mask) jumped at me and hit me with full power on my left arm in a way to make me loose my balance, which I didn’t luckily. I stopped 3 meters away and then he ran again raising his fist so I just drove away because I am 70 years old and not trained to street fighting. My arm is painful and I have a huge bruise starting to show… What should I do ? Go to Police ? Have a medical certificate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidJames Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Right it off to experience. Reporting it could open a can of worms & really isn't worth the bother. Turn the other cheek brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upnotover Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 What should you do? Use the exit next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Bad luck you came accross a security guard who wasn't asleep. Or, perhaps you woke him up, hence his displeasure with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 70 yo and you still don't know what Entrance and Exit are for ? I hate people like you who drive wrong way! I nearly got a bike accident entering in my condo park when some delivery driver exited full speed just in front of me, by the Entrance access! Edited June 26, 2017 by Pattaya46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madox66 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, champers said: Bad luck you came accross a security guard who wasn't asleep. Or, perhaps you woke him up, hence his displeasure with you. Yes, I think you're right because I didn't even notice him at first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madox66 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Pattaya46 said: 70 yo and you still don't know what Entrance and Exit are for ? I hate people like you who drive wrong way! I nearly got a bike accident entering in my condo park when some delivery driver exited full speed just in front of me, by the Entrance access! Did you punch his face ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) Hire a bunch of highly pumped steroid tattooed and if possible drunk Brits, Aussies or Russians to give the unruly guard a good arm and face, massage!!!. Just kidding..sorry for what happened to you at your age, Sir, and wish you a fast recovery.... I would avoid the corrupt boys in brown with their golden wings, as some do manifest some aversion towards farangs, in Pattaya....they are perhaps a bit jealous of all the pussy and booze cocktails the farangs can afford?...whatever... If you want to get even, I would alert the local and international press...it may give a lesson and teach one or two? Bad press would hopefully call expats to boycott the store, that assaults farangs on the slightest excuse? No matter what you did, it does not excuse assault. Take a good lawyer, pictures of your wounds with a medical certificale. The lawyer (if good) would definately know the strings and pehaps a good letter sent to the PM's office in Bangkok could also yield some incendiary results if you wannt get even, believe me...all depends on home much time, energy (and money) you are prepared to shell in ... Edited June 26, 2017 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 They have to be the grumpiest group of staff I have ever encountered. I asked to get some coffee ground and I was simply pointing to the setting on the dial and the girl who was one of the most miserable people I've ever met hit my are out of the way. I've never been back since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 The way I am reading the original post is that you had gone beyond your "free" parking time and you were evading the parking charge by using the wrong exit. Correct me if I'm wrong. In these circumstances the guard was correct to challenge you, but wrong to punch you (IMHO). If you complain to the police you could be in trouble yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 42 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: 70 yo and you still don't know what Entrance and Exit are for ? I hate people like you who drive wrong way! I nearly got a bike accident entering in my condo park when some delivery driver exited full speed just in front of me, by the Entrance access! that's mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombie nights Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Asiantravel said: They have to be the grumpiest group of staff I have ever encountered. Yes very grumpy staff only "bettered' by the mostly cranky and grumpy old men who shop at Friendship or the same low life geriatric types who sit outside the store with sour and resentful looks on their faces. Edited June 26, 2017 by zombie nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) They didn't used to bother about motorbikes so the parking lot was often overflowing with them, especially on the two market days. I agree with them treating motorbikes parking on their premises the same as cars, after all why should they provide free parking to people who are not even going to buy anything in their store? The security guards there get very angry with people who try to abuse the system. They'd never get away with it in the West but, as many people say, this is Thailand and the rules are different. I saw a car a while back trying to drive out without a stamped ticket, two of the guards were screaming at him and kicking the side panel of his door. I'll bet he had a few nasty dents in that when he got home. I think the driver was probably scared witless as he drove off as fast as he could. Maybe you got off lightly with just a punch to the arm, though there's no excuse for violence IMHO. I'd just have a beer and forget about it if I was you. And I agree with the other posters here, there's no excuse really for using the entrance as an exit, especially when you've been using the shop for twenty years! Edited June 26, 2017 by Guderian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madox66 Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: The way I am reading the original post is that you had gone beyond your "free" parking time and you were evading the parking charge by using the wrong exit. Correct me if I'm wrong. In these circumstances the guard was correct to challenge you, but wrong to punch you (IMHO). If you complain to the police you could be in trouble yourself. No, not at all, I just bought a croissant and was out in 5 minutes. By the way, I don't think there's a sign telling you not to get out this way. Anyway, you cannot evade the parking charge if any because there is another guard for the motorbikes and he would not let you go if you didn't give back the stamped ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I park there when I go to the market because it is a secure lot. Never had a problem with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I go there to shop. The service there is efficient and business like. I much prefer that than fake smiles, wais, and "have a nice day" plastic crapola as in my home country. I didn't notice a new girl working as a cashier that is unusually friendly in a genuine way. Charming but it can't last ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaitero Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 How long one can park motorbike now if you buy something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: I park there when I go to the market because it is a secure lot. Never had a problem with anyone. Market = Bua Khao market (Tue/Fri)? And that's why they introduced the ticket/fee system. I had to happen. It was so crowded that as a Friendship customer you were lost. A free unlimited parking on private premises in Pattaya is unthinkable in the long run. Did anyone state what the allowed free time is and the fee when overdue or no shopping? (previous poster was faster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, chickenslegs said: The way I am reading the original post is that you had gone beyond your "free" parking time and you were evading the parking charge by using the wrong exit. Correct me if I'm wrong. In these circumstances the guard was correct to challenge you, but wrong to punch you (IMHO). If you complain to the police you could be in trouble yourself. 23 minutes ago, madox66 said: No, not at all, I just bought a croissant and was out in 5 minutes. By the way, I don't think there's a sign telling you not to get out this way. Anyway, you cannot evade the parking charge if any because there is another guard for the motorbikes and he would not let you go if you didn't give back the stamped ticket. In that case I think you have good cause to make a complaint to the police - or at least complain to the management of the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 dear sir/madam. I was shopping today the 13/06/2017 for less than 45 minutes upon leaving I vas asked to pay Bath20.00 for overstay I refused and was punched in my stomach by one of two parking officials this now have made me think I will not shop here again and I will tell my friends about this treatment and I belive you will lose a lot of customers if you do not do anything about it. I found the above from an online article about the market. Sounds like there may be an issue with aggressive security guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, observer90210 said: I would avoid the corrupt boys in brown with their golden wings, as some do manifest some aversion towards farangs, in Pattaya....they are perhaps a bit jealous of all the pussy and booze cocktails the farangs can afford?...whatever... I doubt that very much, most of the women I see Farangs with wouldn't be very high on the desirability scale to most Thai men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Complain to the store manager. It's a family operation and there is a younger manager who obviously was schooled in the United States. If you have a good-sized bruise to show, I'm pretty sure that they don't want the parking guards to injure their customers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokairportlink Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Yes, better go during the night as there is no security guard and anybody can park without ticket. I hate their stupid day time procedure. Why paying security guards if they are not able to know who just came and parked, but block the cars of people who are not customers ? A ticket is a hassle for customers but only stupid local people cannot understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokairportlink Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 At the same time, you are an old man who parked too long for what you bought and then wanted to leave by the entrance. Then you are wondering why problems happen ? At your age on a motorbike you will also wonder why a car killed you maybe ? But let me tell you a secret: it will be too late to wonder ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 At your age you shouldn't be driving a motorbike as you are obviously a danger both to yourself and to others with your inability to follow traffic signs and your belief that you can drive your motorbike wherever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana7 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) In matters like this, violence by parking lot attendants or guards is unacceptable, and they should be charged with assault. Resolving a dispute using violence is barbaric and uncivilized and violent people should be locked-up in prison since their behaviour is unacceptable to normal society. If there is a dispute about money, or non-payment of parking fees, even in Thailand, there are legal processes to recover debts. Edited June 26, 2017 by Banana7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 For some reason I initially thought this thread was about a supermarket in Chiang Mai - I was kind of shocked to read of such an issue up there, extremely shocked to hear of the abundant disregard for someone else and the readiness of the security guards to use violence. I then noticed that this thread was in fact Pattaya based which immediately made sense... It seems to me that these events and similar are not infrequent in areas such as Pattaya, Patong and Samui where in contrast to other areas of Thailand in general the locals seems to hold an elevated level of disregard toward foreigners when compared to other areas. OP: What can you do? Firstly, complain to the Store Manager. If he promises no action, don't shop there again... and, of course, use the correct exits ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Broken Record said: I doubt that very much, most of the women I see Farangs with wouldn't be very high on the desirability scale to most Thai men Then perhaps we don't go the same hooker bars in Pattaya or the same social venues in Bangkok, either on the lower or upper scale socially speaking... I've seen quite a lot of real hotties....hot by any country's standards!!!!....but then it's all a matter of taste, obviously....no hard feelings and have fun...!! Edited June 26, 2017 by observer90210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 5 hours ago, bangkokairportlink said: At the same time, you are an old man who parked too long for what you bought and then wanted to leave by the entrance. Then you are wondering why problems happen ? At your age on a motorbike you will also wonder why a car killed you maybe ? But let me tell you a secret: it will be too late to wonder ! but was it reason enough to punch a guy who could be your father????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblyjohn Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 try shopping at tesco instead no parking charges there a no ticket to stamp Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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