36-member police reform committee set up

[webfact]

36-member police reform committee set up

By Thai PBS

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has signed an order to set up a 36-member police reform committee, chaired by former supreme commander Gen Boonsrang Niampradit, with approval from the cabinet.

 

Speaking after the cabinet meeting on Tuesday (July 5), Gen Prayut said that since Section 260 of the constitution prohibits a police officer from being chairman, he has appointed Gen Boonsrang to head the committee.

 

Gen Prayut said Gen Boonsrang is a former supreme commander, a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point and a doctorate degree holder.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/36-member-police-reform-committee-set/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-07-05

[colinneil]

Thats 36 more snouts in the trough.

What a total waste of time, reform will never happen, a fact which everybody knows.

[scorecard]

23 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Thats 36 more snouts in the trough.

What a total waste of time, reform will never happen, a fact which everybody knows.

 

Negative comment straight up.

[Smarter Than You]

18 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

Three years of Junta rule can have that effect.

[colinneil]

23 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

Yes a negative comment, the police here are corrupt, and that will not be changed by any committee.

 

You expect me to post positive about this, after being done over by the police here twice.

Cheated out of any chance of compensation, after my accident because of a corrupt policeman lying.

[webfact]

Military general selected as chairman of Police Reform Commission

 

 

BANGKOK, 5 July 2017 (NNT) – The Cabinet has appointed Gen Boonsarng Niempradit as the head of a newly formed police reform commission with 35 members. 

Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha, chairing the weekly Cabinet meeting, gave his approval to the formation of a police reform commission in line with regulations within the new Constitution. The panel will be headed by Gen Boonsarng and will comprise 5 police department civil servants, 15 police officers and 15 civilians. It can change its make up once established according to the needs of its work. 

The PM used the opportunity to state that local police units should seek to work more closely with their provincial administrations to better address public woes and to clarify that police reshuffling will still be handled by the Royal Thai Police command. 

Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Kreau-ngam explained that despite Gen Boonsarng being a member of the military, he is also an academic who graduated from West Point Academy of the United States and is well versed in matters of security, all together making him a prime candidate for the new role to reform police in 3 aspects; structure, investigation processes and officer management.

 

-- nnt 2017-07-05

[petermik]

8 hours ago, colinneil said:

Thats 36 more snouts in the trough.

What a total waste of time, reform will never happen, a fact which everybody knows.

 

8 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

 

8 hours ago, colinneil said:

Yes a negative comment, the police here are corrupt, and that will not be changed by any committee.

 

You expect me to post positive about this, after being done over by the police here twice.

Cheated out of any chance of compensation, after my accident because of a corrupt policeman lying.

scorecard

There you go......not a "negative Comment" a true assessment of the majority of the  BIB..........

[webfact]

Fifteen top cops on 36-man police reform panel
By The Nation

 

BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet has approved the establishment of a 36-member police reform committee that will be chaired by former supreme commander Gen Boonsrang Niampradit.

 

Deputy Prime Minister Wisanu Krea-ngarm said the decision meets the requirements of the Constitution’s Section 258 (amending the law to allow for police reform) and Section 260 (Cabinet approval for the committee). 

 

Five of the panel members will be automatically appointed – the permanent secretaries of the Interior, Finance and Justice ministries, the Courts of Justice secretary-general and the Attorney General. 

 

It will have 15 police officers, including national police chief Chakthip Chaijinda and his fellow police generals Ek Angsananont, Panya Mamen and Aswin Kwanmuang, the governor of Bangkok. 

 

The remaining members will not be police officials. They will include the National Security Council chief, Gen Thaweep Netniyom, Office of the Public Sector Development Commission secretary-general Tossaporn Sirisamphan, Thammasat University rector Professor Somkit Lertpaithoon and Thailand Journalists Association adviser Manit Suksomjit.

 

The committee will be responsible for recommending changes regarding the organisation and personnel of the police force and laws governing it. 

 

Its first task, to be completed this year, will be ensuring that the annual shuffle of high-ranking officers is free of corruption in the form of money being paid for promotions.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30319948

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-05

[madmitch]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

Its first task, to be completed this year, will be ensuring that the annual shuffle of high-ranking officers is free of corruption in the form of money being paid for promotions.

 

Its second task: to count the number of flying pigs. 

[tracker1]

Why is it no surprise another Army General in a high position 36 positions 15 will be police 4 from other walks of life I would say the other 17 positions just might be Military ! so who has the majority rule ? you guessed it !!!! and they think we are dumb !

[harada]

36 more passengers for the gravy train, all aboard.  

[Cadbury]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

36-member police reform committee set up

By Thai PBS

I wish to make two further "negative" comments if that is OK by scorecard. 

I suspect this quasi committee is just a front to have people believe that a highly intelligent group of incorruptible (joke) people are making decisions in the best interest of the country.

Past evidence tells a different story. There is one man alone running Thailand and he will revoke any decisions the committee makes that he does not like.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

It (the committee) can change its make up once established according to the needs of its work. 

The committee is made up of 5 police department civil servants, 15 police officers and 15 civilians. Any bets on those civilians being close relations on senior military or police personnel? If they are not and are only token inclusions then they will be quickly booted off the gravy train to be replaced by another 15 police officers.

Edited July 5, 2017 by Cadbury

[williamgeorgeallen]

whats the point? wonder what this is all about.

[whatawonderfulday]

From one state sponsored arm of corruption to another.

[Nip]

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

Negative ... Yes ..... Accurate .... Yes

[stephen tracy]

How did he find time to do this with all the poetry he's been writing and all the Luuk Thung YouTube vids he's been watching?

[klauskunkel]

I just wanna know if Sanit , the Thai Bev cop, is on the committee...

[al007]

There are no reasons to say this might not work, unlikely maybe but possible

 

At least give it a chance

 

I do not like the system of self appointed dictator, but believe him to maybe be honest

 

Time Will Tell

[stephen tracy]

13 minutes ago, al007 said:

There are no reasons to say this might not work, unlikely maybe but possible

 

At least give it a chance

 

I do not like the system of self appointed dictator, but believe him to maybe be honest

 

Time Will Tell

If he were truly honest he would not have told people that they are not allowed to ask how he accrued so much money off a military pay packet. 

[al007]

1 minute ago, stephen tracy said:

If he were truly honest he would not have told people that they are not allowed to ask how he accrued so much money off a military pay packet. 

OK very true comment, but it also takes a thief to catch a thief in many cases

 

Maybe he is a little reformed !!

[jobwolf]

5 hours ago, Smarter Than You said:

Three years of Junta rule can have that effect.

10 years of Alcohol also.

 

[YetAnother]

I am already amazed at what this committee likely will not do

[Smarter Than You]

6 minutes ago, jobwolf said:

10 years of Alcohol also.

 

The alcohol is voluntary

[jobwolf]

1 minute ago, Smarter Than You said:

The alcohol is voluntary

Did not help a lot to be voluntary

 

[Dexlowe]

By the looks of it, the members already hold important, busy and highly responsible jobs. How on earth are they going to be able to devote the time needed to carry out this complex and very sensitive task in just 10 months (many of them also have multiple other commiittee responsibilities as well, let's not forget)? 

 

The other question that arises is that if many of these people have been picked because they have special knowledge of the problems of the police, wouldn't they be better used to provide expert commentary? That way they could appear before the committee and be forced to reveal all they know. (Yes, I know, in a perfect world. But I am theorizing.)

[Emster23]

"share the wealth"..... of experience?

[stephen tracy]

7 minutes ago, Dexlowe said:

By the looks of it, the members already hold important, busy and highly responsible jobs. How on earth are they going to be able to devote the time needed to carry out this complex and very sensitive task in just 10 months (many of them also have multiple other commiittee responsibilities as well, let's not forget)? 

 

The other question that arises is that if many of these people have been picked because they have special knowledge of the problems of the police, wouldn't they be better used to provide expert commentary? That way they could appear before the committee and be forced to reveal all they know. (Yes, I know, in a perfect world. But I am theorizing.)

10 months is delusional... but that's Prayuth for you. 

[mogo51]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

But true.

[saminoz]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Negative comment straight up.

That doesn't make it any less true though, does it?

[Zack61]

I would like to think this was a serious attempt to arrest power from what is an obviously corrupt group. If it is, I say great stuff. Go for it.

My gut tells me it is designed to deliver nothing in the way of reform. When you look at the make up of the committee and who will select the participants it's hard to believe you will get 36 people on the committee who are even slightly interested in changing the way business is done. Not too many honest people make it to a position where they would be considered for a place on the reform committee. For the process to be successful there needs to be full transparency and constant review and scrutiny by the media. A few more obstacles that need overcoming. 

I live in hope and life does have its little surprises. 10 months is a long time so I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm guessing in 10 months it'll all be forgotten.