Yingluck faces indictment over compensation payouts

[snoop1130]

Yingluck faces indictment over compensation payouts

By The Nation

 

 

The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) would indict former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra and 33 of her former Cabinet members in September on grounds that they had approved compensation for political victims during the unrest between 2005-2010 without any legal grounds to back up their decision.

 

NACC commissioner Supa Piyajitti said on Wednesday that the NACC was investigating the case and should be able to deliver the indictment in the next couple of months.

 

In May 2015, the NACC accused Yingluck’s Cabinet of approving Bt2 billion in compensation for the victims of 2005-2010 political protests. The accused group comprises Yingluck, four former deputy PMs, 19 ex-ministers and 10 ex-deputy ministers.

 

Approved in 2011, the compensation was allocated from the central reserved budget to be used in case of emergency and necessity.

 

The NACC said that the regulations and compensation rates were newly drafted and did not follow the Budget Procedure Act.

 

Such wrongful negligence caused damage to the national treasury reserves, it said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30321880

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-7-26

[trogers]

Not wrong to use/break the piggy bank for the supporters who put you into power.

 

And so it was thought..

Edited July 26, 2017 by trogers

[AGareth2]

2017 in the Buddhist calender

Edited July 26, 2017 by AGareth2

[retarius]

This sounds like victimisation. I do hope she has her money stashed offshore.

[Baerboxer]

10 minutes ago, retarius said:

This sounds like victimisation. I do hope she has her money stashed offshore.

 

Victimization - on what grounds? Because she's being held accountable where as previously they got away with it?

 

On the surface this looks like she simply made payments from state coffers to some of her supporters. Although I doubt it was her idea.

 

 

 

 

[Bannoi]

Sounds more like a witch hunt to me 

[Cadbury]

15 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Sounds more like a witch hunt to me 

A witch hunt initiated by the master wizard himself.

[robblok]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Victimization - on what grounds? Because she's being held accountable where as previously they got away with it?

 

On the surface this looks like she simply made payments from state coffers to some of her supporters. Although I doubt it was her idea.

 

I remember those payouts.. quite generous (was not her own money). It was for those that fought for her and got wounded or were send to jail. 

 

Not sure what to think about it.. giving nice payouts was a smart thing otherwise next time her supporters won't risk anything for her. 

 

But don't know if it is a crime to do this, that is up to the court. If she did not follow procedures and paid more then the going rate they might well be right to hold her accountable. 

[robblok]

14 minutes ago, Cadbury said:

A witch hunt initiated by the master wizard himself.

She certainly is taking a lot of flak, she played the game and lost. If she had not put her brother in that amnesty deal this might all never have gotten that far. It was the catalyst to bring people out. There might have been plans for a coup but this is what made it possible. 

[yardrunner]

so what is next, every time she walks across the road being charged with jaywalking

[The Deerhunter]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Victimization - on what grounds? Because she's being held accountable where as previously they got away with it?

 

On the surface this looks like she simply made payments from state coffers to some of her supporters. Although I doubt it was her idea.

 

 

 

 

Add it to her bill.

[The Deerhunter]

7 hours ago, Bannoi said:

Sounds more like a witch hunt to me 

Sounds more like a <deleted> hunt to me.  

[The Deerhunter]

20 minutes ago, yardrunner said:

so what is next, every time she walks across the road being charged with jaywalking

No. Only stealing Thai taxpayer's money.  Jaywalking doesn't count.

[candide]

56 minutes ago, robblok said:

I remember those payouts.. quite generous (was not her own money). It was for those that fought for her and got wounded or were send to jail. 

 

Not sure what to think about it.. giving nice payouts was a smart thing otherwise next time her supporters won't risk anything for her. 

 

But don't know if it is a crime to do this, that is up to the court. If she did not follow procedures and paid more then the going rate they might well be right to hold her accountable. 

You forget to mention those who were killed. And there was no mention of people who were sent to jail in the scheme. But you could not help yourself but make it look worse...

http://www.nationmul...s-30182791.html

Edited July 26, 2017 by candide

[tbthailand]

52 minutes ago, candide said:

You forget to mention those who were killed. And there was no mention of people who were sent to jail in the scheme. But you could not help yourself but make it look worse...

http://www.nationmul...s-30182791.html

nothing vindictive here, is there?

 

just that YL's successor as "PM" was the one responsible for the killing and injuries of those for whom this compensation was meant.... 

 

The guy is truly a mean-spirited jerk. 

[worgeordie]

Must be the backup plan,incase shes found not guilty of the rice scheme.

regards worgeordie

[candide]

19 minutes ago, tbthailand said:

nothing vindictive here, is there?

 

just that YL's successor as "PM" was the one responsible for the killing and injuries of those for whom this compensation was meant.... 

 

The guy is truly a mean-spirited jerk. 

Not to mention that one of the main stakes behind the 2010 crisis was his nomination. Had anticipated elections occured early in 2010, he probably would not have been nominated as army chief. 

[webfact]

Yingluck faces indictment over payments to protest victims

By NATTAPAT PROMKAEW 
THE NATION

 

File photo: Protesters at 2010

 

BANGKOK: -- THE National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) plans to indict former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra and 33 of her former Cabinet members for allegedly approving compensation for victims of political violence without legal endorsement.

 

NACC commissioner Supa Piyajitti yesterday said the commission expected to be able to deliver indictments within the next couple of months.

 

Yingluck and many of her Cabinet members have already been prosecuted on various charges, including negligence and corruption in the rice-pledging scheme after the military coup in 2014. 

 

In May 2015, the NACC accused Yingluck’s Cabinet of approving Bt2-billion compensation for 1,900 victims of the 2005-2010 political protests, a number which appeared to include red-shirt and Pheu Thai supporters as well as yellow-shirt and Democrat backers.

 

Political struggles during the period began when the yellow-shirt People’s Alliance for Democracy staged marathon street protests against Thaksin Shinawatra’s government, leading to the 2006 coup that toppled him. 

 

An election in 2008 brought a Thaksin ally into office before judicial activists and yellow-shirt supporters again deposed the government, paving the way for Abhisit Vejjajiva to enter office, which ignited red-shirt protesters to mount their own bloody protests in 2010, when street battles claimed scores of lives. 

 

At the time, Yingluck said she approved the compensation in accordance with recommendations from a committee for reconciliation. 

 

The Democrat Party in 2012 expressed concern about the high cost of the compensation, whereby the families of dead victims could obtain as much as Bt7 million. There were more red-shirt than yellow-shirt victims. 

 

The Democrats then lodged a petition with the Administrative Court to halt the plan, but the court dismissed the case saying it was not under its jurisdiction.

 

The NACC said yesterday that such action was negligent and caused a total of Bt1.9 billion in damages to the national treasury. 

 

The accused group comprises Yingluck, four former deputy PMs, 19 ex-ministers and 10 former deputy ministers, excluding Chumpol Silpa-archa, Yingluck’s deputy and the former tourism and culture minister, who passed away in 2013.

 

Pakorn Panthu, then-director of the Department of Social Development and Welfare, was also accused as he oversaw victims’ affairs, but the NACC later dropped charges against him on the basis that he had been obligated to follow the Cabinet resolution.

 

Regulations and compensation rates were all newly drafted and did not comply with the law at the time, the NACC has said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30321905

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-27

[phantomfiddler]

It would appear that the pigeons are finally coming home to roost ! This family caused a terrible rift in Thai society, all in the interests of personal greed, and hopefully they will never be allowed in a position where they can do a repeat performance. Yes, the rural poor are getting the thin end of the wedge, and hopefully at some time in the future they will see that they have been used and select a more suitable champion of their rights.

[Eric Loh]

10 hours ago, tbthailand said:

nothing vindictive here, is there?

 

just that YL's successor as "PM" was the one responsible for the killing and injuries of those for whom this compensation was meant.... 

 

The guy is truly a mean-spirited jerk. 

What an irony that the people responsible for ordering the killing and injuries were not even brought to justice while her compensation payout face a ridiculous charge. This mean spirited jerk has blood on his hands. 

[Lupatria]

"M" the fictional character in Ian Fleming's James Bond film series comes to mind when she says: “make it look like an accident” problem solved!

[robblok]

11 hours ago, candide said:

You forget to mention those who were killed. And there was no mention of people who were sent to jail in the scheme. But you could not help yourself but make it look worse...

http://www.nationmul...s-30182791.html

Those amounts were quite high especially if you look at what normal people get for compensation by dead and many of these 524 did not involve deaths. She just made sure her red shirt warriors were paid handsomely by the state otherwise next time they would not risk their lives to bring her in power. 

[robblok]

16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

What an irony that the people responsible for ordering the killing and injuries were not even brought to justice while her compensation payout face a ridiculous charge. This mean spirited jerk has blood on his hands. 

You mean Thaksin who rejected the agreement that was struck and send in his men in black to shoot at the army starting it all ? You do remember that there was an agreement in place.. that was suddenly cancelled after more talks higher up by the reds... guess who... 

[ben2talk]

13 hours ago, retarius said:

This sounds like victimisation. I do hope she has her money stashed offshore.

Someone here obviously doesn't have much experience with multi billionaire lifestyles. They took billions and channeled it into purchases and investments.

 

Even if they take it ALL away, your pocket change is still more than most people can steal in a lifetime!!!

 

Doh!

[steven100]

Post #19 says it all .....    hope they get their just deserts ..

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, robblok said:

You mean Thaksin who rejected the agreement that was struck and send in his men in black to shoot at the army starting it all ? You do remember that there was an agreement in place.. that was suddenly cancelled after more talks higher up by the reds... guess who... 

Not going to get into another long debate with you which will go no where. Just put on record that you support the army who killed 80 civilians including 2 foreign journalists and 2 paramedics.

[robblok]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

Not going to get into another long debate with you which will go no where. Just put on record that you support the army who killed 80 civilians including 2 foreign journalists and 2 paramedics.

You support Thaksin who send in his blackshirts and their actions started the killing. To set the record straight. 

 

There is such a thing as shared responsibility. You can't just send in your blackshirts and let them open fire and expect the army not to do anything after taking casualties. 

[candide]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Those amounts were quite high especially if you look at what normal people get for compensation by dead and many of these 524 did not involve deaths. She just made sure her red shirt warriors were paid handsomely by the state otherwise next time they would not risk their lives to bring her in power. 

Bring her to power? I thought they were risking their lives to get elections?

That's the yellow shirts who have been rewarded for bringing someone to power..

PS Read my next post before answering that there was an agreement

Edited July 27, 2017 by candide

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Incorrect.

 

The first shots were fired by the army who were ordered to fire blanks at red shirt protesters which turned out to be live ammunition. None of the red shirts were armed with anything other than rudimentary weapons (slingshots etc). It was on the Thai news that Abhisit had ordered blanks to be fired then the pictures clearly showed soldiers firing live ammunition at protesters as their M16's do not have the ability to cycle blank ammo without muzzle suppressors. 

 

Long before any 'black shirts' or mystery goons were on the scene (if at all).

Nice Thrump version of history, you make the redshirts proud.. soon you will say that all the casualties including high ranking officers at the side of the army were self inflicted. 

[robblok]

26 minutes ago, candide said:

Bring her to power? I thought they were risking their lives to get elections?

That's the yellow shirts who have been rewarded for bringing someone to power..

7 million of a death.. have you ever seen compensation that high ? That is not normal.. just a pay off for her red shirt warriors.