owl sees all Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: I'd give more credence to your comment if even one of Thailand's 6000 generals had even seen action. Lobbing mortar shells at Cambodian peasants on behalf of your financial benefactors in the Yellow Shirts over a temple that was never Thai doesn't count. You could put forward the case that the Army is a pyramid scheme for the boys and once you pay in you get to reap the rewards all the way to the top (if you have the money and connections to make it that far). Over 50% of judges are from a military background. Don't know what rank one has to be but, I guess Generals go into higher courts than Colonels. Nice work, if you can get it; over 100k Bhat pension and 100k judge wage a month. Makes the fee money well worth it in the long term. Plus there might be the chance to sentence some mushroom picker or fb visitors. Edited August 27, 2017 by owl sees all added more content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, baboon said: She won't need it. The Home Secretary will fill it in on her behalf while she is relaxing with a pint of Wifebeater in the pub next door. Not sure that the Tories will want that much to with her, bearing in mind that her natural political allies in the UK are Labour and, in particular, the Corbynistas. Of course if there were to be yet another snap election and ol' Jezza were to become PM, things would change. In particular John McDonnell would no doubt want to take lessons from her in the optimal squandering of taxpayers' monies - through the introduction of a Marmite-pledging scheme, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Clearly just another economic migrant - down to her last eleven million quid, minus the thirty million baht "tip" she left the court after skipping bail. My heart bleeds for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, quadperfect said: This whole dog and pony show is hilariouse. I lean towards all thailand is corrupt and dishonest. This way i am not shocked by daily life in the kingdome. You sure seem to be a big fan (or is it fane?) of the letter e, quad ! I love the way 'hilariouse' and 'kingdome' sound when spoken out loud Edited August 27, 2017 by Yann55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Thaksin was residing in the UK when he left to attend the Olympics the UK cancelled his visa and prevented a return so the odds are against his sister being given asylum .At least i hope so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Somtamnication said: Ah, Britain. The best place to claim asylum. Not the best place for spouses to apply for residency. Why would she want asylum in third world Britain? She probably wouldn't qualify anyway. Wrong religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Let's wait for a real life scenario, rather than just speculating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, LannaGuy said: I'd be proud if Britain offered her asylum and sent that Red Bull scum back here. Britain has a proud history of democracy, ethics and freedom and she would be safe there. She is a criminal on the run so one would hope that she would be arrested and shipped back to Thailand. However I am sure she would be allowed some wriggle room as her brother was and the chance to move on to a more suitable destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, dunroaming said: She is a criminal on the run No she isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, z42 said: Asylum. What a joke, she is guilty of at the very least criminal negligence, or looking the other way to frankly unchecked corruption by those in her party. As a UK citizen I would be disgusted if she was to be granted asylum, especially when there are many hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT people fleeing actual harm in their home nations. Can only keep repeating that this idiotic woman is NOT THE VICTIM OF ANYTHING THAT WASN'T OF HER OWN MAKING. She is fleeing rightful criminal prosecution, and that should provide no grounds for asylum whatsoever. Whatever you say, she was (and possibly still is) the legally elected democratic prime minister who was illegally removed by a man with plenty of fire power at his disposal. She was persecuted after the coup by people who hadn't thought of the consequences of their actions but now realise that imprisoning her does not meet their aims. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Thailand's Lawless Junta Versus Yingluck Shinawatra: Using Courts to Punish Political Opponents " Of course, the trial never was fair. It was orchestrated by Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha. Installed as prime minister at the head of the self-proclaimed National Council for Peace and Order, he is a comic figure highly sensitive to criticism and with delusions of grandeur. But he brooks no opposition." OUCH! Read the rest. This is how the rest of the world sees Thailand now. It does not matter what the back story is. https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2017/08/25/thailands-lawless-junta-versus-yingluck-shinawatra-uses-courts-to-punish-political-opponents/#403080fc69a4 That article is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, jippytum said: Thaksin was residing in the UK when he left to attend the Olympics the UK cancelled his visa and prevented a return so the odds are against his sister being given asylum .At least i hope so . So how would you explain this line in the OP? Thaksin, who once owned Manchester City football club, owns property in London and spends significant amounts of time in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Let's hope this is the end of the corrupt Shin Clan. They stole billions end let the poor suffer for them. Thaksin, during his earlier speeches told the poor to fight the army "fight, I am right behind you". Resulting in many deaths. The wealthy using the poor to get even wealthier. A truly disgusting family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ovi1kanobi said: If I did not love my country, enough to fight for it. I guess I would leave. Being in a jail cell,for however many years, entirely under the control of a military junta who took power to prevent your re-election, silenced and allowed only those whom the junta permits to visit or have contact with you is not really fighting for your country now is it? She stayed in the country, as a focal point for opposition to the junta for as long as she could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, sjaak327 said: That article is spot on. But click quick. Unless you have a VPN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Not the UK, if she still has any taste for the good life. As recognisable as she is, she wouldn't get a moment's peace, except maybe on the Orkneys. I think the Languedoc region of SW France would be more her style. Jesting aside, though, isn't the only question worth asking, "Where does Thailand go from here, if it is to stand an earthly chance of regaining respect as an international power on all fronts?" Whichever way we turn, we have human-rights, trade, infrastructure, health, education, and law & order issues that require urgent attention. If he is to make a fist of sorting only half of these, the hard-pushed general may have to end his Friday 'specials' on TV. How about a vote on that, now . . . all those in favour say 'Ay' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, eggers said: Will have to await court decision as to whether found guilty or not... but she's almost declared herself guilty by flight from country! If found guilty, what basis could she apply to UK for Asylum? A convicted criminal, don't think so!! Maybe swap places with Julian Assange in Ecuadorian Embassy? At least if UK, Thailand likely has extradition treaty???? Easy... If report true, shows what weak, greedy, gutless characters the Puppeteer & the Puppet are.... There is no way the UK would ever extradite her to Thailand. The term "convicted criminal" is not worth anything outside of Thailand. Courtesy of the dodgy Thai Justice system, the way this case was conducted (almost no-one does not think it is a political witch hunt) and... the fact that Thailand is ruled by criminals who only avoided being convicted by placing themselves above the law, courtesy of their self written interim constitution. Amnesty, apparently no problem if it benefits some people and worth demonstrating for months on end, if it appears to be benefitting the wrong people.... This is Thailand's hypocracy in a nutshell.. Edited August 27, 2017 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, impulse said: So how would you explain this line in the OP? Thaksin, who once owned Manchester City football club, owns property in London and spends significant amounts of time in the city. Funny how Thaksin can own property in the UK, and we cannot, because there is not an agreement like the Phil have, we do not get increment increases in our old age pensions here in Thailand but in Phil you do. Yingluck will be able to buy, there I cannot here ---to say it again-----so where is the line with this reciprocal agreement. ???? no wonder Yingluck will aim for England, also her child for schooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunna Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, hugh2121 said: Whatever you say, she was (and possibly still is) the legally elected democratic prime minister who was illegally removed by a man with plenty of fire power at his disposal. She was persecuted after the coup by people who hadn't thought of the consequences of their actions but now realise that imprisoning her does not meet their aims. Hmmm Why do you keep repeating these lies She was removed from power before the coup by the Constitutional Court of Thailand after finding her guilty of abuse of power on 07 May . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 hours ago, z42 said: Asylum. What a joke, she is guilty of at the very least criminal negligence, or looking the other way to frankly unchecked corruption by those in her party. As a UK citizen I would be disgusted if she was to be granted asylum, especially when there are many hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT people fleeing actual harm in their home nations. Can only keep repeating that this idiotic woman is NOT THE VICTIM OF ANYTHING THAT WASN'T OF HER OWN MAKING. She is fleeing rightful criminal prosecution, and that should provide no grounds for asylum whatsoever. As her brother has 6 passports, may she obtain as many possible and enjoy her free life until one day this country is in better hands when her and her brother can have a full pardon and return, besides the weather in the UK is miserable, why would anyone want to live there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, ovi1kanobi said: She has lost respect from most of her supporters now. Thais dont like liars. Good-ho, no reason not to hold an election as soon as possible then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 She left for luxury and her soldiers are in jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, baboon said: There isn't any point. The hardcore fascist / crank element on here are so brainwashed, they would dismiss God himself coming down from the heavens and spelling it out in letters of fire. No, be fair, one would "yawn", one would claim he was being paid to post, one other would argue that he was just another newbie who hadn't been around long enough for his views to count, and several would assert that he was being paid by Thaksin. The latter assertion would be accompanied by the testimony of their sister in laws daughters nannies grandmother, who saw the money changing hands in a "red village" A glass of beer to the first person who can correctly name the first three, umh, "suspects"! Edited August 27, 2017 by JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Of course this is all speculation on my part? What or how, I believe she was escorted to some border point in a style she is used to. A number of expensive vehicles with a motorcycle leading the way to clear the traffic in her path. She would have gone to Hong Kong to the brothers property to do a bit of shopping while waiting her faith but there was a storm. She could have went by high speed trains but the government is still trying to figure it out with the Chinese? So many options borders are so large how they anyone figure it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I can divorce my wife and marry this forlorn millionaire to give her UK residence - at a price of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggg88 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, impulse said: Just guessing here, but I suspect it was a (not so thinly) veiled insult of anything involving Muslims... Spending time in Dubai as a women would be akin to jail - speaking as someone who has worked in Dubai with female colleagues who refused to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Jaggg88 said: Spending time in Dubai as a women would be akin to jail - speaking as someone who has worked in Dubai with female colleagues who refused to return. Somehow, I doubt she'll have the same issues as someone working there on a salary. But here's a thought. Go down to a female Thai prison and offer any of the ladies the choice of living in Dubai (no sex work required) or staying in the Thai prison. Let me know what you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 ......I have a flat she can rent..................555.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Nickymaster said: She left for luxury and her soldiers are in jail. On another site today there's mention that boonxxxx is actually the lacky / the fallman for the unethical projects and actions of another member of the paymasters' family. Interesting reading, however it could possibly fit with the comments in todays' BP by suraxxxx. In regard to boonxxxx even if he was the lacky of another powerful, ruthless and immoral person he is a well educated and well experienced man but immoral and unethical, he chose to head up as the main man in the G to G deals and no doubt was very well rewarded (he's a billionaire) and now he's paid the price. We reap what we sow. Edited August 27, 2017 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, dunroaming said: She is a criminal on the run so one would hope that she would be arrested and shipped back to Thailand. However I am sure she would be allowed some wriggle room as her brother was and the chance to move on to a more suitable destination. She has not been convicted yet. And even IF convicted, the word "convicted criminal" in this particular case means absolutely nothing. Thailand is currently run by criminals, and the only reason they aren't convicted is because they awarded themselves amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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