ktm jeff Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 tg , its like a fighter pilot trying to explain avionics to a kite flyer. PS - hows your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Well Guzzi ... 4 hours ago, ktm jeff said: tg , its like a fighter pilot trying to explain avionics to a kite flyer. PS - hows your nose. Agree. And to comment on the thread title - My vote is for "or what" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 This is really not that complicated, they sell only metric fittings, they should sell metric drills to match. No calculations needed, for snug fit items like rivets and the like, use 3mm, 4mm, 5mm etc, then clearance for bolts use +.0.5mm, like 6.5mm, 8.5mm, etc. Just like they do in most of the world... and leave specialist shops to stock imperial for HD owners. That way they would appear on the shelves in the correct order. The standard sets sold everywhere I have been, 1-10mm in 0.5mm increments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 16 hours ago, AllanB said: Not interested in reading your lips, you said and I quote "And an 8mm bolt fits in a 5/16" hole... And a 3/8" bolt fits in a 10mm hole." 1. So how do you get an M8 bolt in a 7.938mm hole, a 50 tonne press tool perhaps? 2. They don't sell 3/8" bolts or 10mm drills, so why does that matter. There may be shops that sell metric drills, but the DIY shops around here sell imperial drills and metric bolts. PS. 3/8" = 9.525 even worse and if you knew anything about very basic engineering you would know that you don't put an M8 bolt in and 8mm hole, you need a small amount of clearance. Certainly not an interference fit as you are suggesting. You've not read what I've written. By the way, your avatar suits you sir. No more. Enough. No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) The guy has rubbed me up the wrong way in the past, and from now on, any post he starts i'm not bothering replying. He asks for advice, asks a question, but already knows the answer. I bow to his wisdom and knowledge. (amongst many - realizing a Chinese 16 bhp dual sport bike is not powerful enough for 2 up touring with luggage, to be replaced by a Japanese 22-24 bhp dual sport bike not powerful enough for 2 up touring with luggage - and many more inc this particular thread). I try and be polite, offer my advice, but it is obvious by his replies, he does not read all of it, or maybe understand what I've written. Life is too short to waste my time replying to anal, banal topics by an OP who doesn't fully understand the replies... Edited November 9, 2017 by thaiguzzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 13 hours ago, ktm jeff said: tg , its like a fighter pilot trying to explain avionics to a kite flyer. PS - hows your nose. Thanx. Sore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: I try and be polite, offer my advice, but it is obvious by his replies, he does not read all of it, or maybe understand what I've written. Don't sweat the details. He's doing his own thing. Sometimes guys don't need the exact answer they only want confirmation or otherwise that they did something not completely wrong. The luggage rack seems OK, except no support at the bottom for the bag, but he is obviously happy with it. So he doesn't have one of these. That's OK as well. Try and steer guys in the right direction and have a laugh. That is what I get from TV. Edited November 9, 2017 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Don't sweat the details. He's doing his own thing. That's OK as well. Try and steer guys in the right direction and have a laugh. That is what I get from TV. No need to come on this Forum, ask for advice, receive the advice requested from guys who have been doing this their whole lives, and then nitpick, belittle, and insult those same people. Do your own thing - I am a big believer. Doing it my whole life. But never been my thing to ask for advice and then attack the people who provide it. Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744). It is found in An Essay on Criticism, 1709, and I can find no earlier example of the expression in print: A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 18 hours ago, canthai55 said: Well Guzzi ... Agree. And to comment on the thread title - My vote is for "or what" LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 9 hours ago, VocalNeal said: Don't sweat the details. He's doing his own thing. Sometimes guys don't need the exact answer they only want confirmation or otherwise that they did something not completely wrong. The luggage rack seems OK, except no support at the bottom for the bag, but he is obviously happy with it. So he doesn't have one of these. That's OK as well. Try and steer guys in the right direction and have a laugh. That is what I get from TV. Brown warehouse coat - check. Top L/H breast pocket - check. Engineer's pencil - check. Zeus book - check. ... those were the days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 11/5/2017 at 3:44 PM, Randell said: Looks good hardly noticeable that it isn't symmetrical and that will definitely help dissipate the heat. I same again great work. Randell it doesn't look not symetrical because it is symetrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 That's okay, if you guys think you can put a 8mm bolt in a 7.9mm hole, or even a 8mm drilled hole that;s fine and that requiring a hammer, or wiggling the drill around to make the hole big enough is "nitpicking", OK. I insulted no one, but maybe this "nitpicking" upsets your hero worship, that's fine too, go for it. It seemed to me to be good sense to use metric drills for metric bolts, as they do in most other parts of the world, that's all folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, AllanB said: That's okay, if you guys think you can put a 8mm bolt in a 7.9mm hole, or even a 8mm drilled hole that;s fine and that requiring a hammer, or wiggling the drill around to make the hole big enough is "nitpicking", OK. I insulted no one, but maybe this "nitpicking" upsets your hero worship, that's fine too, go for it. It seemed to me to be good sense to use metric drills for metric bolts, as they do in most other parts of the world, that's all folks. To late to edit, I would like to retract the "hero worship" comment, it was uncalled for, late night, early morning... and this <deleted> CRF is really getting to me. Dragged myself into this, over a simple comment about drills. and if anyone was insulted I apologise. ...and yes, my avatar was chosen for it's suitability, at least I like to think so. Edited November 10, 2017 by AllanB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: Brown warehouse coat - check. White one if you were in the inspection dept. or a foreman? Quote Top L/H breast pocket - check. Just remembered maybe. The ones for the machine shop had the breast pocket on the inside? Edited November 10, 2017 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randell Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 17 hours ago, papa al said: it doesn't look not symetrical because it is symetrical. I guess what I ment to say was lop sided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 9:13 AM, VocalNeal said: White one if you were in the inspection dept. or a foreman? Just remembered maybe. The ones for the machine shop had the breast pocket on the inside? Indeed. Don't want your pencil or pocket calculator falling out whilst over the spinning lathe chuck... As for white warehouse coats, nah, not me. Took too many drugs. Drank too much alcohol. Partied too hard. Not enough sleep. Rebellious nature. The brown warehouse coat suited me better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Sadly I am old enough not to remember but can also use the old "if you remember the '60's, you weren't there" In my case the last few years but... I still use a khaki apron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 8:25 PM, thaiguzzi said: Jesus. Google is your friend, tapping drill for 8mm is 6.8mm. And that's off the top of my head...... I thought it was 6.7mm but then its been many years since Ive looked at a tap drill size chart so I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Techno Viking said: I thought it was 6.7mm but then its been many years since Ive looked at a tap drill size chart so I could be wrong. Made me double check... 8 x1.25mm tapping drill 6.8mm. Clearance drill 8.2mm. Phew! Noggin has still got it. Sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: Made me double check... 8 x1.25mm tapping drill 6.8mm. Clearance drill 8.2mm. Phew! Noggin has still got it. Sometimes... Yeah I had to search google as well, I found results ranging from 6.7 to 6.8 with some being 6.75. 6.75 make sense given a thread pitch of 1.25 which makes my 6.7 wrong as that is technically too tight and ive been doing it wrong ! 8.2 clearance drill sounds bang on. Edited November 11, 2017 by Techno Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: Took too many drugs. Drank too much alcohol. Partied too hard. Not enough sleep. Rebellious nature. My Brother from Another Mother !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 On 11/11/2017 at 8:48 PM, canthai55 said: My Brother from Another Mother !!! LOL. IMHO it should be made compulsory that all adults have to try LSD at least once in their lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said: LOL. IMHO it should be made compulsory that all adults have to try LSD at least once in their lifetime. Like, groovy man ! Where can I score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 hours ago, papa al said: Like, groovy man ! Where can I score. At your age man? Hells Bells and Kudos simultaneously... OK. Back on topic. The OP's thread is CRF250L's, luggage and home made racks. Sorry for getting off track, no more mention of drugs. Aceeeed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 18 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: LOL. IMHO it should be made compulsory that all adults have to try LSD at least once in their lifetime. If what I was given is correct. I just sat in a chair but it was like being on a roller coaster. Could have been speed though. I never asked. A small drop of clear liquid on a piece of tissue paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 5 hours ago, VocalNeal said: If what I was given is correct. I just sat in a chair but it was like being on a roller coaster. Could have been speed though. I never asked. A small drop of clear liquid on a piece of tissue paper. Acid blotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 ^ Is there a club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 That's banned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 You mean "feet and inches", I was looking for the correct term for you Yanks, we call it imperial. Anyway are HD and others now using metric threads? I doubt it. They still don't understand rear swing-arm geometry after all these years.Sent from my R2D2 droid using my C3P0 manservant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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