American claims self-defense as patron says man murdered in Pattaya was "trouble-maker"

[snoop1130]

American claims self-defense as patron says man murdered in Pattaya was "trouble-maker"

 

 

The investigation into the murder of an Australian man in  a Pattaya bar on Friday has taken new turns.

Earlier reports suggested that Benjamin Matthew Robb, 43, was beaten and kicked senseless as others egged on the attacker.

He is Jose Manuel Polanco, 42, who has been charged with physical assault leading to death by the local police following the attack in the Ruby Club in Soi 6. 

Speaking on behalf of the Australian Pattaya station chief Pol Col Apichai Krobpetch said:  "He admitted that he hit him three to four times but it was self-defence.

Moments before the deceased had  "picked up a waitress by grabbing her neck until her feet were up in the air. Jose saw that it was too aggressive and Robb was drunk, so he interfered."

Reuters said that witnesses at scene agreed saying Matthew was drunk and was aggressive to a waitress, causing Polanco to interfere.

A regular in the Ruby Club who didn't want to be named told Thaivisa that Robb often acted in an aggressive manner and was known by some to be a trouble maker.

Thai media Daily News also reported in a headline that the attacker could not sit idly by and see a Thai woman hurt.

But their report was at odds with other stories saying that the victim was floored with one punch. His head hit the ground killing him, they reported. 

They added that the American gave himself up after the incident on the same evening. 

Source: https://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/626898

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-2-12

[Thaiwrath]

15 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

so he interfered.

A bit of an understatement, to say the least !

Edited February 12, 2018 by Thaiwrath

[camble]

Finally a version that makes sense

[saakura]

3 minutes ago, camble said:

Finally a version that makes sense

...to the farang ego.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Still no footage? No cameras?

[Justgrazing]

Account's of what happened seem to have shifted noticeably since this unfortunate event but now the Fed's are involved lets hope they get to the core of what really  happened ..

Edited February 12, 2018 by Justgrazing
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[chickenslegs]

Should be fairly easy for the pathologist to distinguish between the latest version "one punch knocking the victim to the floor" and the earlier reports of "10 to 15 kicks or stamps to the head".

 

 

 

[Nasrullah]

6 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

Should be fairly easy for the pathologist to distinguish between the latest version "one punch knocking the victim to the floor" and the earlier reports of "10 to 15 kicks or stamps to the head".

 

 

 

Witnesses could be of great value......but this is thailand!

[darksidedog]

I wonder how much the CCTV footage is worth right now?

And for sure they have some.

[Peterw42]

Just now, darksidedog said:

I wonder how much the CCTV footage is worth right now?

And for sure they have some.

Its been reported in other threads that the cameras were broken so no footage.

[anon789561]

25 minutes ago, Nasrullah said:

Witnesses could be of great value......but this is thailand!

seems the witnesses are all saying different things. if they can prove it was one punch from enough witnesses and autopsy and that the guy did pick up the girl from her neck i could see the thai police letting him go. once he'd paid them of course

[Rimmer]

Another troll post has been removed

[Sevenbells]

5 hours ago, Nasrullah said:

Witnesses could be of great value......but this is thailand!

Witnesses might be "friends of the bar" and biased. The no cctv is disturbing too.

[smedly]

American claims self-defense as patron says man murdered in Pattaya was "trouble-maker"

 

so I stomped on his head 20 times when he was unconscious on the floor just to make sure ......................... he was dead 

 

sorry <deleted> but you did what you did and now someone is dead by your actions, in the UK your mates would also be facing serious charges 

 

I advise Thai Police to get a full criminal profile on this psycho, my guess is the USA don't want him back 

 

and people living in pattaya would also not be too happy about this thug on the loose and that includes his scumbag mates who if not being charged should be escorted to the airport and banned from Thailand for life

 

Thai police need to be seen to do the right thing here...................the local community and international media are following this very carefully

 

 

[Donotdisturb]

Him good heart. Him not idle. Him hero...

[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

A regular in the Ruby Club who didn't want to be named told Thaivisa that Robb often acted in an aggressive manner and was known by some to be a trouble maker.

Then he should have been barred from the place!

Letting known trouble makers enter for more drink just doesn't make sense.

[Sevenbells]

"A regular in the Ruby Club who didn't want to be named told Thaivisa that Robb often acted in an aggressive manner and was known by some to be a trouble maker."

 

 

Really?? This is a new one,from an anonymous source,with absolutely no validation.

 

I'm sure the "regular in the Ruby Club" is impartial.
 

[Darcula]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the attacker could not sit idly by and see a Thai woman hurt

 

By a foreigner, that's a prohibited occupation, yes.

 

 

 

Edited February 12, 2018 by Darcula

[dinsdale]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

But their report was at odds with other stories saying that the victim was floored with one punch. His head hit the ground killing him,

Get 20 yrs for this in some Australian states.

[cornishcarlos]

I think the initial reports might have been exaggerated a little bit... Now we are getting conflicting statements, although I believe in the original thread about this, there was mention that the Aussie started it all ?

The fact that the American voluntarily went to the police, makes me think he didn't actually stamp on this guy 15-20 times. If that was the truth, then I think he would have done a runner over the border.

Just my opinion, not fact.. I guess it will all come out eventually !! Maybe not... 

 

[cornishcarlos]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

Thai police need to be seen to do the right thing here...................the local community and international media are following this very carefully

 

Exactly, so before jumping to conclusions of your own based on hearsay, wait for them to investigate the incident.....

[dotpoom]

"He admitted that he hit him three to four times but it was self-defence."

     Whatever it was it was not "self defence"......... in defence of another ....maybe......but not self defence.    The attacker was not being attacked himself?

[cornishcarlos]

Plus, what's with the headline ?? He was not "murdered" until it was proven that he was murdered...

 

[HLover]

10 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

Should be fairly easy for the pathologist to distinguish between the latest version "one punch knocking the victim to the floor" and the earlier reports of "10 to 15 kicks or stamps to the head".

 

 

 

Very good point.  

If the latter version is true all the 10-15 stomp storytellers should be spanked.

[catman20]

10 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Its been reported in other threads that the cameras were broken so no footage.

555555555 not broken tape destroyed.

[HLover]

1 minute ago, catman20 said:

555555555 not broken tape destroyed.

Stomped on 10-15 times as well.

[HLover]

4 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Exactly, so before jumping to conclusions of your own based on hearsay, wait for them to investigate the incident.....

He may have premature reaction syndrome.

[catman20]

A regular in the Ruby Club who didn't want to be named told Thaivisa that Robb often acted in an aggressive manner and was known by some to be a trouble maker.

 

sounds like it was only a matter of time, theirs always someone bigger and better around the next corner. RIP

[Destiny1990]

Not a typical American name.

[Peterw42]

13 minutes ago, HLover said:

Very good point.  

If the latter version is true all the 10-15 stomp storytellers should be spanked.

Its 15-20 stomps now, 5 stomps get added each time the story is retold.