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Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this

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15 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

A democratically elected government, you see how much power you have as a voter, never mind take back 'your' country.

Lose one point for deviation.

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  • Blackheart1916
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    Ridiculous article. From the Guardian, so any semblance of reality is fleeting at best. So none of these problems existed before the Brexit vote? I doubt it. Anti Brexit people are like anti Trumpers

  • Samui Bodoh
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    Good article, and it makes the same point(s) that I have been making for a while.   The referendum was twenty months ago and the government seems not a whole lot more prepared for the conseq

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Just now, simoh1490 said:

Isn't he though, it's a terrible affliction to have.

Did you get a lot of badges in the cubs?

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5 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

I've just scored fourteen successive emoticons from Dundee, it's a record and I'm well chuffed. Can somebody get round to his lodgings or give him a call and see if the poor chap is OK, I fear he may have succumbed to emoticonitis which with any luck might just be fatal.

 

You'd only find someone else to hector and bully :smile:.

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Lose one point for deviation.

You lose one too for hesitating.     oops

21 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

It would probably need a change of government for it to happen.

 

That can be arranged.

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On 28/02/2018 at 5:01 AM, Samui Bodoh said:

Good article, and it makes the same point(s) that I have been making for a while.

 

The referendum was twenty months ago and the government seems not a whole lot more prepared for the consequences than they were then. Brexit is a huge, fiendishly complex process of untangling ties that have evolved over forty years or so, and the likelihood of them being severed in a reasonable manner within two years was always nonsense.

 

There is an obvious solution. The UK is simply not prepared for Brexit at this moment, so it should swallow its pride, admit that, and put off the whole idea for a generation. If there is still a desire on the part of her citizens to leave the EU in... twenty years(?), then there can be another referendum held, but this time with the proper preparation.

 

Continuing down this path will cause more harm that good, despite the results of the Referendum. Common sense desperately needs to beak out.

 

Common sense did break out. Europe is a mess as you may well know, due to the large percentage of people voting for minority political parties as they are disenchanted with the self important unelected bureaucrats that operate the systems for their own personal benefit and financial gain. Once the UK has disentangled itself from an unwanted political and judicial control by Brussels then the benefits will begin to appear. The UK voters wanted a trading arrangement,nominally called the Common Market, that was purely a facade for the creation of a European state. The politicians want it to be one country with one currency, one set of laws, one central bank, one army, one police force and of course one controlling european parliament, with Brussels calling the shots and making all the trading decisions with countries of their choosing.

 

They are petrified that the UK, being the second largest economy within the EU, will not only take their money and run but will be successful in agreeing lucrative trading deals without the interference of Brussels. The list is long but the US, China, India and former Commonwealth countries come to mind along with many others who may well be members of the EU too. Time will tell but I wouldn't bet against the whole idealistic european dream coming unstuck at the seams in the not too distant future.

 

Finally if you want to believe what the left wing Guardian rag spouts then it's 'up to you'. 

3 minutes ago, Anon999 said:

Common sense did break out. Europe is a mess as you may well know, due to the large percentage of people voting for minority political parties as they are disenchanted with the self important unelected bureaucrats that operate the systems for their own personal benefit and financial gain. Once the UK has disentangled itself from an unwanted political and judicial control by Brussels then the benefits will begin to appear. The UK voters wanted a trading arrangement,nominally called the Common Market, that was purely a facade for the creation of a European state. The politicians want it to be one country with one currency, one set of laws, one central bank, one army, one police force and of course one controlling european parliament, with Brussels calling the shots and making all the trading decisions with countries of their choosing.

 

They are petrified that the UK, being the second largest economy within the EU, will not only take their money and run but will be successful in agreeing lucrative trading deals without the interference of Brussels. The list is long but the US, China, India and former Commonwealth countries come to mind along with many others who may well be members of the EU too. Time will tell but I wouldn't bet against the whole idealistic european dream coming unstuck at the seams in the not too distant future.

Post of the month.

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

The UK also had a fascist movement and a communist party who thought they were smart, these folk were Brits with their view on stuff. The UK voted for their view on stuff and the view was to get back to controlling ourselves.

No good you crying and want another vote because it didn't go your way.

 

Great example of a Gaussian distribution. Two outliers and a clear mean. In this case, we don't have that. It is a split.

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40 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

I've just scored fourteen successive emoticons from Dundee, it's a record and I'm well chuffed. Can somebody get round to his lodgings or give him a call and see if the poor chap is OK, I fear he may have succumbed to emoticonitis which with any luck might just be fatal.

 

 

I know Dundee very well.

 

 

He is a skilled piss-taker........

14 minutes ago, Anon999 said:

Common sense did break out. Europe is a mess as you may well know, due to the large percentage of people voting for minority political parties as they are disenchanted with the self important unelected bureaucrats that operate the systems for their own personal benefit and financial gain. Once the UK has disentangled itself from an unwanted political and judicial control by Brussels then the benefits will begin to appear. The UK voters wanted a trading arrangement,nominally called the Common Market, that was purely a facade for the creation of a European state. The politicians want it to be one country with one currency, one set of laws, one central bank, one army, one police force and of course one controlling european parliament, with Brussels calling the shots and making all the trading decisions with countries of their choosing.

 

They are petrified that the UK, being the second largest economy within the EU, will not only take their money and run but will be successful in agreeing lucrative trading deals without the interference of Brussels. The list is long but the US, China, India and former Commonwealth countries come to mind along with many others who may well be members of the EU too. Time will tell but I wouldn't bet against the whole idealistic european dream coming unstuck at the seams in the not too distant future.

 

Finally if you want to believe what the left wing Guardian rag spouts then it's 'up to you'. 

More delusion.

 

The US is, incase you haven't noticed, enacting a number of protectionist measures, they are not looking for any free trade agreements with the UK and if they are these will target agriculture (wipe out the industry in the UK) and health care, wiping out the NHS.


For now the US can sit back waiting while the UK's bargaining position worsens and concentrate on the easy prise of stripping financial services from an increasingly isolated London. 

 

As for your dreams of India and the former Commonwealth countries (AKA Empire 2) - please get a grip. 

 

China.... I guess you are in Thailand, if so go ask any Thai people you know about going begging to the Chinese when you need to make a deal.

 

As for 'Common Sense' the Brexiteers in the UK seem to have totally forgotten the old adage 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'. 

 

So much so that they are eager to let go of the bird they have without any idea of where the bush is, much less if there are any birds in it.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More delusion.

 

The US is, incase you haven't noticed, enacting a number of protectionist measures, they are not looking for any free trade agreements with the UK and if they are these will target agriculture (wipe out the industry in the UK) and health care, wiping out the NHS.


For now the US can sit back waiting while the UK's bargaining position worsens and concentrate on the easy prise of stripping financial services from an increasingly isolated London. 

 

As for your dreams of India and the former Commonwealth countries (AKA Empire 2) - please get a grip. 

 

China.... I guess you are in Thailand, if so go ask any Thai people you know about going begging to the Chinese when you need to make a deal.

 

As for 'Common Sense' the Brexiteers in the UK seem to have totally forgotten the old adage 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'. 

 

So much so that they are eager to let go of the bird they have without any idea of where the bush is, much less if there are any birds in it.

 

 

Any delusion is in your rambling post. 

2 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Any delusion is in your rambling post. 

We'll see shall we.

 

Liam Fox's trip to India was instructive - If the UK want more trade with India then the UK must  issue more visas to Indians (Erm...... India dictating UK visa policy? That'll sell well).

 

PM May goes to China and comes back doing exactly what China tell her to do (Hinkley B - PM U-turn).

 

The US is enacting trade barriers.

 

The British Empire is dead and gone.

2 hours ago, aright said:

Remind me1 Is that smaller or greater than 52%

They both equal 0.5 and that is the point

3 minutes ago, Grouse said:

They both equal 0.5 and that is the point

 

 

But they DON’T........... and that most certainly is the point....

2 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

"lefty, luvvies and tree huggers" how to immediately nullify any point of view you might have or any hope of being taken seriously?

He's been in that trench for at least two years! Anyone got any spare socks? I'll send them in a drone! Trenches ?

56 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Brown shorts denying it.

Brown shorts? you seemed such a nice boy at first

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More delusion.

 

The US is, incase you haven't noticed, enacting a number of protectionist measures, they are not looking for any free trade agreements with the UK and if they are these will target agriculture (wipe out the industry in the UK) and health care, wiping out the NHS.


For now the US can sit back waiting while the UK's bargaining position worsens and concentrate on the easy prise of stripping financial services from an increasingly isolated London. 

 

As for your dreams of India and the former Commonwealth countries (AKA Empire 2) - please get a grip. 

 

China.... I guess you are in Thailand, if so go ask any Thai people you know about going begging to the Chinese when you need to make a deal.

 

As for 'Common Sense' the Brexiteers in the UK seem to have totally forgotten the old adage 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'. 

 

So much so that they are eager to let go of the bird they have without any idea of where the bush is, much less if there are any birds in it.

Looks like the crystal ball has changed hands.

 

Bird in hand have broken wing but I hear tweeting from bush about half hour ago.

Tonto in Michigan, 1896.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We'll see shall we.

 

Liam Fox's trip to India was instructive - If the UK want more trade with India then the UK must  issue more visas to Indians (Erm...... India dictating UK visa policy? That'll sell well).

 

PM May goes to China and comes back doing exactly what China tell her to do (Hinkley B - PM U-turn).

 

The US is enacting trade barriers.

 

The British Empire is dead and gone.

 

 

As a Brexiteer I am delighted that the British Empire.

 

Only delusional remoaners keep raising the subject of the British Empire......the State of Europe is more such traits than the UK...

6 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

But they DON’T........... and that most certainly is the point....

Think carefully about that, they do!

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3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

As a Brexiteer I am delighted that the British Empire.

 

Only delusional remoaners keep raising the subject of the British Empire......the State of Europe is more such traits than the UK...

I'm not sure what your experience of Europe is. I recently spent 2 years working in Europe (mainland), the direct view I had was that it was doing rather well. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Brown shorts? you seemed such a nice boy at first

Oh I am! But I don't care for brown shirts or shorts; they suit the Alpine continentals much more.

 

4 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Think carefully about that, they do!

I feel the urge to chip in with a "oh no they don't"? :smile:

18 minutes ago, Grouse said:

They both equal 0.5 and that is the point

Two decimal places please! :smile:

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

I feel the urge to chip in with a "oh no they don't"? :smile:

Knowing how stellar you guys are with numbers:

 

0.48 and 0.52 can both be correctly expressed as 0.5.

 

Agree or not?

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Two decimal places please! :smile:

Way too slow, way too slow! :post-4641-1156694572:

Just now, simoh1490 said:

Way too slow, way too slow! :post-4641-1156694572:

Just the internet playing up. I forgot the remainers can't handle big numbers.

2 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

Knowing how stellar you guys are with numbers:

 

0.48 and 0.52 can both be correctly expressed as 0.5.

 

Agree or not?

not if they refer to billions of pounds

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

0.50

The Hawaii TV thingy?

 

Just now, soalbundy said:

not if they refer to billions of pounds

Or a delta of a million people.

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