Popular Post Once Bitten Posted March 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2018 Nothing much has ever crossed my mind when eating meat fish or fowl , Ive enjoyed pork chops T bone steaks , roast chicken and all manner of fish . But some thing has recently changed my view on that score. In the small village were I live the local Poo Yai Ban invited my self and wife to a party as his only son was getting married . My wife offered to generally help out at the PYB's house including to help prepare the food. In the early morning I tagged along with the wife just to see what was going on , On arriving at the PYB's house I generally helped out where I could and then later a pickup arrived and on the back in a cramped looking metal cage was a large pig . I asked the wife what was going on and she said that the pig was going to be killed and enjoyed by the guests . Well I'm now thinking that this poor unfortunate pig that obviously was in great distress would be quickly dispatched and put out of its misery . The poor pig was dragged out of its cage and judging by the unholy noise it was making , it was very distressed , the men who were dragging this poor unfortunate pig to its death seemed to take great delight when the pig tried to resist . The pig was tied up and hoisted by its feet so it could be hung up side down , then the driver went back over to his pickup and pulled out a large knife and meat cleaver. The high pitched squealing the still alive pig made as its throat was being cut and seeing the fresh warm blood being collect in an old bucket is some thing I will never forget . I felt like I had some how been transported back in time to the dark ages to a time where animal welfare and compassion were never thought of , to a time where inhumane practices against animals were considered normal. But no it was not a dream there I was in Thailand watching what I would call a cruel brutal barbaric act . Since I had that experience watching the poor pig suffering , its some how altered my view about eating especially where animal's are concerned . Now when I look at a pork chop on my plate , in my head I can still hear the poor pig's high pitched squealing and final death throes. Even if I'm thinking about eating beef or chicken I start to wonder in my mind if they were subjected to similar cruelty as the pig had to sadly endure for the sake of food 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Familyonthemove Posted March 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2018 I've worked in slaughterhouses - not vastly different to what you describe, just done with more privacy. I don't eat pork, lamb or beef (or dog, horse or octopus), but I do eat chicken and fish, as subjectively they appear to have less capacity to feel stress and fear. 4 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The manic Posted March 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2018 To the OP. How would a pack of pigs, jackals or wild boars treat you if they wanted to eat you? Have you ever seen ritual mass slaughter by throat cutting halal style during Eid Al Hadda? Nature is red in tooth and claw.. And we are part if nature. The death of democracy is more important than a pig being taken to slaughter. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The manic Posted March 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Familyonthemove said: I've worked in slaughterhouses - not vastly different to what you describe, just done with more privacy. I don't eat pork, lamb or beef (or dog, horse or octopus), but I do eat chicken and fish, as subjectively they appear to have less capacity to feel stress and fear. Stress and fear and the associated chemical releases such adrenaline release can impact on the taste of the meat. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 Quite often a truck passes my place with this horrendous noise coming from it. The back is filled with live pigs stacked on top of each other squashing the ones below. Very sad to see and hear... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marko kok prong Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 Have you ever heard the screaming a lettuce makes when it is sliced,bone chilling i can tell you. Of course only certain people can,i being one ,carrots are worse they actually plead with you,before you weild the knife,of course i couldn't give a fig about it. 6 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, marko kok prong said: Have you ever heard the screaming a lettuce makes when it is sliced,bone chilling i can tell you. Of course only certain people can,i being one ,carrots are worse they actually plead with you,before you weild the knife,of course i couldn't give a fig about it. Blimey, you got exceptional hearing chap.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I witnessed a similar event at a family party some years ago only not a pig, but a young calf. Actually when I say witnessed I was there when the calf arrived but because I knew of it's fate I decided to go for a walk whilst the animal was being slaughtered. It wasn't something I needed to watch, although I seem to remember it was rather tasty barbecued.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2018 How old are you that you only just realised how meat gets to the table? Some people just seem so far removed from reality which is becoming a larger issue through society in general. Anyway porky got a pretty happy smile on his mug in the photo so can't be all bad. 9 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 11:24 PM, Once Bitten said: Even if I'm thinking about eating beef or chicken I start to wonder in my mind if they were subjected to similar cruelty as the pig had to sadly endure for the sake of food Yes they do. Factory farming is an abomination, and the animals suffer their entire miserable lives. People are cruel, PERIOD. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 23 hours ago, marko kok prong said: Have you ever heard the screaming a lettuce makes when it is sliced,bone chilling i can tell you. Of course only certain people can,i being one ,carrots are worse they actually plead with you,before you weild the knife,of course i couldn't give a fig about it. There is a sort of commune in the UK where people have to ask their food ( vegetables ) for permission to eat them. Far as I know, the food never said "no". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: Yes they do. Factory farming is an abomination, and the animals suffer their entire miserable lives. People are cruel, PERIOD. For sure but we probably would not eat eggs if we all really thought about it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 9:45 AM, transam said: Quite often a truck passes my place with this horrendous noise coming from it. The back is filled with live pigs stacked on top of each other squashing the ones below. Very sad to see and hear... My wife never looked at a truck with pigs on it when we were on the road, but she never refused to eat pork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, transam said: For sure but we probably would not eat eggs if we all really thought about it... Free range eggs are fine. It's factory farming that I object to. Unfortunately I can't find any in the supermarket here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) On 3/21/2018 at 11:43 PM, The manic said: The death of democracy is more important than a pig being taken to slaughter. ?????????? It's possible to have humane animal welfare/ slaughter and democracy at the same time. Edited March 23, 2018 by thaibeachlovers 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: ?????????? It's possible to have humane animal welfare/ slaughter and democracy at the same time. ????? 'Human animal/welfare slaughter'. 4 nouns forming a non sequitor. Basically human welfare is more important than animal welfare and thus human welfare should be prioritized. over squeamish sentimentality over the false lie of animal rights. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, The manic said: ????? 'Human animal/welfare slaughter'. 4 nouns forming a non sequitor. Basically human welfare is more important than animal welfare and thus human welfare should be prioritized. over squeamish sentimentality over the false lie of animal rights. Sigh, sigh, sigh. I didn't say "human", and you put the / in the wrong place. Read it again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 A Vegetarian asked me a few years ago if I would be prepared to kill everything I ate. Doubt I could unless it was a real survival situation. Have to confess, that when we buy a live fish from the market, I always look away when it's bashed on its head. But larp pla is rather delicious! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, faraday said: A Vegetarian asked me a few years ago if I would be prepared to kill everything I ate. Doubt I could unless it was a real survival situation. Have to confess, that when we buy a live fish from the market, I always look away when it's bashed on its head. But larp pla is rather delicious! I have killed plenty of animals, and most for food, but I confess I don't eat anything that looks like an animal/ fish after it's put on the plate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I have killed plenty of animals, and most for food, but I confess I don't eat anything that looks like an animal/ fish after it's put on the plate. Is that coz you're a lousy cook? Joke... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannork Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2018 Factory farming is utterly barbaric but the companies get away with it because the public don't see the cruelty and suffering. Piglets having their teeth and balls ripped out with no anaesthetic. Sows unable to even turn over in their pens. Chickens never seeing daylight and kept in tiny cages. Male calves taken from their mothers just a few hours after birth and slaughtered a few days later. And on and on. Every school kid should be taken round these factories of death and suffering to see how the meat on their plate has arrived there. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chickenslegs Posted March 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 22/03/2018 at 1:14 PM, marko kok prong said: Have you ever heard the screaming a lettuce makes when it is sliced,bone chilling i can tell you. Of course only certain people can,i being one ,carrots are worse they actually plead with you,before you weild the knife,of course i couldn't give a fig about it. At least the carrots can't see or hear the awful slaughter of the lettuce. It must be terrible for potatoes and corn - having eyes and ears. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) On 3/22/2018 at 1:14 PM, marko kok prong said: Have you ever heard the screaming a lettuce makes when it is sliced,bone chilling i can tell you. Of course only certain people can,i being one ,carrots are worse they actually plead with you,before you weild the knife,of course i couldn't give a fig about it. Same as potato's mate. They have feelings too. Regarding the so called potato famine in Ireland. Some think it never happened, that they just forgot where they planted them. I think the (Irish) potato might be smarter than they are given credit for, and just ran away and hid. Edited March 24, 2018 by chrisinth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, chrisinth said: Same as potato's mate. They have feelings too. Regarding the so called potato famine in Ireland. Some think it never happened, that they just forgot where they planted them. I think the potato might be smarter than they are given credit for, and just ran away and hid. Not Jersey.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, transam said: Not Jersey.... Edited original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Yes been there and felt similar. I refused the fresh raw meat everyone else was enjoying with their beer, but the smell of cooking later brought my appetite back. Horrible noise the poor bugger made and it seemed to go on for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 To the vegans out there, you worry about animal products. Have you ever wondered how your leather belt or leather shoes got made? Just remember, my food sh!(4's on your food. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 No worse than killing a chicken or any other animal that’s the way in Thailand I am afraid in the Western world the pig would be taken to the slaughter house , given a bit more respect but in the end would be prepared in the same manner it’s a way of life . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaleins Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 It's done in the West every single day in the name of the Jews and in the name of the Muslims - I agree, it is pretty grim, but the west has put up with this torture under the name of religious practice for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 23/03/2018 at 12:19 PM, transam said: For sure but we probably would not eat eggs if we all really thought about it... Nothing wrong with chicken miscarriage bloody lovely, especially when you find a feather or bit of blood delicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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