webfact Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Carnage avoidance as truck driver praised for driving skills Pictures: TNews Footage from Thailand's north west drew praise from the Thai media for the driver of a container truck that was coming down a hill. The 18 wheeler suffered brake failure. The driver manages to avoid a vehicle directly in front and another truck and use the roadside barrier to slow down and come to a halt with no one suffering injury. The incident happened on Tuesday on the hill of Doi Kha heading towards the border town of Mae Sot. The driver was Saman Thongthot who said that his truck developed brake difficulties. TNews praised him for great driving. Source: TNews -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-04-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maverell Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 Why is it so many vehicle in Thailand have 'brake difficulties or failure' ? 55555555 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, webfact said: TNews praised him for great driving. TNews are idiots then. If he had been in the correct low gear, as a good lorry driver should know to do, he wouldn't have needed the brakes so much and the incident would never have happened. The driver must be having a right laugh. He has trashed the lorry through not knowing how to drive, and is being told "well done." Any one out there wonder why the road stats are so bad? 31 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oztruckie Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 Another idiot shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a heavy vehicle,brake failure,of course brakes fail when over used on steep descents,their not designed to hold 40 ton trucks continuously,but TIT,nothing will ever change as the powers that be don't know any better. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, darksidedog said: TNews are idiots then. If he had been in the correct low gear, as a good lorry driver should know to do, he wouldn't have needed the brakes so much and the incident would never have happened. The driver must be having a right laugh. He has trashed the lorry through not knowing how to drive, and is being told "well done." Any one out there wonder why the road stats are so bad? Indeed - they are complimenting the very idiot who created the situation in the first place. Riding the brakes down the hill causing them to overheat instead of using a low gear. Of course, this may not be the case here - but if I were a betting man.... pretty much every case of 'brake failure' in Thailand is a result of these uneducated drivers failing to understand their vehicle (or those lying and using it as an excuse). 10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jethro69 Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 It comes to my mind when I drove with a girl on two rented Honda Wave 100cc from Kanchanaburi to Sangklaburi. No big issues going there, but on the way down she lost like 10min every 2-3 Km I was waiting here to keep up. At the end I found out that she (native Thai) translated those "slow gear" signs (bilangual) into "no gear". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sir Dude Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good driving skills...pfft! Blind luck that it didn't end in a horror show more like. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady86 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Profit over safety so brake failures and poorly maintained vehicles are norm here. Worry only after accident happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cornishcarlos Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 Oh come on, there's been so many fatal accidents in the news lately, they need a "well done, you're amazing" story :) 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meatboy Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 watching the news report what I saw,was he was bombing along when it went from 2lanes to one and he had knowhere to go other than the inside,or up the lorrie in front who was going a lot slower. BRAKES DIDNT FAIL. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: pretty much every case of 'brake failure' in Thailand is a result of these uneducated drivers failing to understand their vehicle Yours is the 5th post and all before agree on the same thing. Ignorance. Personally, I have never driven an HGV or Semi truck, but I have driven locomotives which used dynamic braking to slow downhill speed. DB is different concept to truck braking, From the photo, it appears to be a late model cab-over tractor trailer unit. Lack of ability in operation of the air brake system seems to be the primary cause of all these "brake failures. In fact it seems so prevalent, I am surprised Thailand hasn't claimed to be the hub of "spectacular brake failures". Rather than lauding the driver for not killing anyone, questions should be asked as to what he was doing prior to the incident and what measures he took to slow the vehicle apart from smashing into the concrete barriers etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Oh come on, there's been so many fatal accidents in the news lately, they need a "well done, you're amazing" story :) Yes, I think they have found Thailands first Formula 1 driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post keith101 Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 I have never heard one truck/bus using the Jake brake on a decline anywhere in this country . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, keith101 said: I have never heard one truck/bus using the Jake brake on a decline anywhere in this country . I wonder if tractor units are fitted with engines using Jake brake systems in Thailand. I agree with your comment, I have never heard the familiar sound of a Jake brake in use on any downhill sections of Thai highways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkfjCJClWVA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thongkorn Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) The Driver should be thrown in Prison for dangerous driving. Bad driving. Use of brakes to much because going to fast.causeing brake faid. Common knowledge to educated people and police. Except Thailand. Brakes don’t come off if no air.they come on again common knowledge . As for exhaust brakes they would not know what one is if they had them. also having a 20ft container sat on the back of a 40ft trailer is a recipe for a disaster. No weight on the drive axle which will cause a jackknife when braking to hard. Edited April 12, 2018 by Thongkorn 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somchai Logic Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: TNews are idiots then. If he had been in the correct low gear, as a good lorry driver should know to do, he wouldn't have needed the brakes so much and the incident would never have happened. The driver must be having a right laugh. He has trashed the lorry through not knowing how to drive, and is being told "well done." Any one out there wonder why the road stats are so bad? Yep. There is NO HOPE for this place if they applaud these idiots I've probably again broken some obscure clause by saying anything about the indigenous 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agudbuk Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Why do we never hear of cars and trucks having brake failures in European countries? Do they have different braking systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 And where is the skill? Crashing to the right wall on a right curve... What would have happened if it was a left curve? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Why is it so many vehicle in Thailand have 'brake difficulties or failure' ? 55555555Because a bad workman always blames his tools.Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Thongkorn said: The Driver should be thrown in Prison for dangerous driving. Bad driving. Use of brakes to much because going to fast.causeing brake faid. Common knowledge to educated people and police. Except Thailand. Brakes don’t come off if no air.they come on again common knowledge . As for exhaust brakes they would not know what one is if they had them. also having a 20ft container sat on the back of a 40ft trailer is a recipe for a disaster. No weight on the drive axle which will cause a jackknife when braking to hard. Many knowledgeable people on the forum and the consensus is that it was poor driving. Driver education sadly lacking in many Asian countries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, agudbuk said: Why do we never hear of cars and trucks having brake failures in European countries? Do they have different braking systems? No, but if you have time watch and learn. The Thai drivers seem to have more accidents because it is commonly agreed that they are less competent operators. You probably never hear of these European accidents for the same reason Europeans probably never hear of Thai accidents, unless there's a large number of fatalities. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=american+truck+brake+failures&oq=american+truck+brake+failures&aqs=chrome..69i57.10385j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.co.th/search?q=truck+brake+failures+in+europe&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhqIn1wLTaAhVMrI8KHU75BTsQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=637&dpr=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 7 hours ago, darksidedog said: TNews are idiots then. If he had been in the correct low gear, as a good lorry driver should know to do, he wouldn't have needed the brakes so much and the incident would never have happened. The driver must be having a right laugh. He has trashed the lorry through not knowing how to drive, and is being told "well done." Any one out there wonder why the road stats are so bad? your right about using gears....people here are NOT taught this fact that they actually slow a vehicle down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 7 hours ago, darksidedog said: TNews are idiots then. If he had been in the correct low gear, as a good lorry driver should know to do, he wouldn't have needed the brakes so much and the incident would never have happened. The driver must be having a right laugh. He has trashed the lorry through not knowing how to drive, and is being told "well done." Any one out there wonder why the road stats are so bad? EXACTLY!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Watch many of them drive its like this, brake, accelerate, brake, accelerate, brake , accelerate, Taxis are the best at this though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kannot Posted April 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ratcatcher said: No, but if you have time watch and learn. The Thai drivers seem to have more accidents because it is commonly agreed that they are less competent operators. You probably never hear of these European accidents for the same reason Europeans probably never hear of Thai accidents, unless there's a large number of fatalities. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=american+truck+brake+failures&oq=american+truck+brake+failures&aqs=chrome..69i57.10385j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.co.th/search?q=truck+brake+failures+in+europe&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhqIn1wLTaAhVMrI8KHU75BTsQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=637&dpr=1 Can u imagine this in Thailand 1 the kid would be dead 2 he would probably have hit the filming driver also 3 every car behind would have been wrecked also Yet here no cars wrecked and the brakes on that truck were incredible. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 he was sleeping and woken up when he hit the rail then managed to get it under control..and he is a hero in thailand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agudbuk Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 No, but if you have time watch and learn. The Thai drivers seem to have more accidents because it is commonly agreed that they are less competent operators. You probably never hear of these European accidents for the same reason Europeans probably never hear of Thai accidents, unless there's a large number of fatalities. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=american+truck+brake+failures&oq=american+truck+brake+failures&aqs=chrome..69i57.10385j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8https://www.google.co.th/search?q=truck+brake+failures+in+europe&tbm=vid&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhqIn1wLTaAhVMrI8KHU75BTsQ_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=637&dpr=1Well I read a few bits and googled it but I didn't find any hard statistics or accident reports.Nearly all of the brake failure reports are just from drivers saying their brakes didn't work rather than from anything evidence.Maybe a pilot would say the wings stopped giving us lift and without any accident investigation or black box recording to show he had flown into the ground that would be the only report.My own suspicion is that not using low gears when descending hills and driver inattention are more likely accident causes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 5 hours ago, agudbuk said: Why do we never hear of cars and trucks having brake failures in European countries? Do they have different braking systems? yeah theyre brain assisted in Europe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 A troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a977 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 19 hours ago, keith101 said: I have never heard one truck/bus using the Jake brake on a decline anywhere in this country . The what? don't mention that to uneducated Thai driver, he only just found out what the brake pedal was for.( another excuse to cover incompetent driving skills) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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