Ghost Condo Projects

[DragonQuest]

It's been over 10 years and this condo is not being built, <deleted> why?

 

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[pegman]

More like 4 years since the stop work order was given. These things happen when new authorities/mafia take over from old authorities/mafia. 

[observer90210]

Work not progressing perhaps because they are all trying to get a closer peep at the cutie in pink ?!!

[KittenKong]

There are several topics about this building in here. Search for them and all the gory details (well, some of them) will be revealed.

I think the total time from when the project was originally launched must indeed be getting on for 10 years by now.

Basically the original developer went bust, the project was taken over and relaunched, the building was redesigned in a way that some say conflicts with the original building permit and other laws, and when it was finally built it gained some extra floors. There are also questions about encroachment onto public land and roads, the ratio of condo units to hotel units, the percentage of green space, and the distance to the shoreline.

All in all, one big can of worms.

[scubascuba3]

Op, more importantly is that you in the photo?

[Henryford]

59 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

There are several topics about this building in here. Search for them and all the gory details (well, some of them) will be revealed.

I think the total time from when the project was originally launched must indeed be getting on for 10 years by now.

Basically the original developer went bust, the project was taken over and relaunched, the building was redesigned in a way that some say conflicts with the original building permit and other laws, and when it was finally built it gained some extra floors. There are also questions about encroachment onto public land and roads, the ratio of condo units to hotel units, the percentage of green space, and the distance to the shoreline.

All in all, one big can of worms.

Plus of course it ruins the view from Buddha Hill which i think prompted many of the complaints (after it was built).

[johng]

It's been suggested that the entire back face of the building could be covered in LCD display panels

and using cameras of the view from the front side create an  "inadvisability" cloak !   its a possibility.

[petermik]

"Ghost condo projects" is the correct terminology and the authorities here are indeed hoping a "ghostly" disappearance is forthcoming................

[KittenKong]

Plus of course it ruins the view from Buddha Hill which i think prompted many of the complaints (after it was built).

That was indeed mentioned, though I'm not sure to what extent it was a proper complaint or just something used to engage public opinion and social media.

There's no doubt that it is pig-ugly in the state it now is, but it would not be a lot better even if completed.

[DrTuner]

They want to keep it as a symbol of deteriorating Pattaya. That's why it's next to the sign.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 9:49 AM, Henryford said:

Plus of course it ruins the view from Buddha Hill which i think prompted many of the complaints (after it was built).

That, IMO, was THE reason for the subsequent uproar, and the ultimate stoppage. The other reasons were just used to stop the project. Had it been built where it didn't obstruct the view, it would have been completed long ago.

 

I look forward to the day it has to be demolished because the structure has deteriorated beyond salvage.

[janclaes47]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I look forward to the day it has to be demolished because the structure has deteriorated beyond salvage.

I assume that you are a construction expert  and have examined the structure?

 

In soi 5 second road there has been a similar construction, which had been standing like this for almost 10 years, before it was continued and is now considered an upmarket condominium.

[swerve]

Hopefully it gets torn down soon.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

I assume that you are a construction expert  and have examined the structure?

 

In soi 5 second road there has been a similar construction, which had been standing like this for almost 10 years, before it was continued and is now considered an upmarket condominium.

and the Hopewell pillars have been standing since the 1980s, but would anyone use them now?

I expect the Waterside fiasco to still be in the same stage of non construction in 20 years time, which would make it about the same age as the famous big ghost building in Bkk is now.

[gk10002000]

22 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That, IMO, was THE reason for the subsequent uproar, and the ultimate stoppage. The other reasons were just used to stop the project. Had it been built where it didn't obstruct the view, it would have been completed long ago.

 

I look forward to the day it has to be demolished because the structure has deteriorated beyond salvage.

As a mechanical engineer, I can't see how it can be salvaged after several years  of open exposure to the elements, rain, salt spray, etc.  The infrastructure inside as well as structural degradation has to be pretty bad.  And it sure does ruin the view from almost any where.  Wouldn't take much of a royal edict, religious complaint to put some weight behind the push to tear it down?

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

As a mechanical engineer, I can't see how it can be salvaged after several years  of open exposure to the elements, rain, salt spray, etc.  The infrastructure inside as well as structural degradation has to be pretty bad.  And it sure does ruin the view from almost any where.  Wouldn't take much of a royal edict, religious complaint to put some weight behind the push to tear it down?

They still haven't demolished the Hopewell structures, so I can't see anything being done about Waterfront. Legally, it's in limbo, so nothing will be done till that's sorted and I doubt the people that could do something about it will, TiT.

I'd like them to demolish the part that obstructs the view, and leave the rest as a warning to greedy people. There is something so satisfying to me about seeing such a disaster in plain view that shouts "this is what happens when you try to stuff up things the Thai people treasure".

[altcar bob]

The Trust, high rise opp Bangkok hospital,is an amazing empty high rise, so is Pattaya Posh,lights on at night time,3 at rear  two in front,constantly

[digbeth]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They still haven't demolished the Hopewell structures, .

 

Have you even been to Bangkok recently?

[thaibeachlovers]

13 hours ago, digbeth said:

 

Have you even been to Bangkok recently?

Couple of weeks ago, and I saw them still there alongside the railway.

[digbeth]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Couple of weeks ago, and I saw them still there alongside the railway.

Where alongside the railway? on the road heading to Don Mueang the old hopewell stumps have been removed and the new red line train are being constructed in its place

[johng]

Where alongside the railway? on the road heading to Don Mueang the old hopewell stumps have been removed and the new red line train are being constructed in its place

I wonder if they ever paid the hopewell company ? I thought the reason they stood there all these years was the pillars couldn't be removed as they are property of the company so they either had to be paid for or they could sue....but possibly article 44 took care of that ?

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 4:09 PM, johng said:

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 3:57 PM, digbeth said:

Where alongside the railway? on the road heading to Don Mueang the old hopewell stumps have been removed and the new red line train are being constructed in its place

I wonder if they ever paid the hopewell company ? I thought the reason they stood there all these years was the pillars couldn't be removed as they are property of the company so they either had to be paid for or they could sue....but possibly article 44 took care of that ?

Could be, but I assume it's because it costs a lot of money to remove them.

 

The pillars still stand at Don Muang railway station. 

[rak sa_ngop]

On 5/22/2018 at 1:07 PM, altcar bob said:

The Trust, high rise opp Bangkok hospital,is an amazing empty high rise, so is Pattaya Posh,lights on at night time,3 at rear  two in front,constantly

So what is the story behind Pattaya Posh (next to North Pattaya bus station)? Looks finished to me?

[scubascuba3]

So what is the story behind Pattaya Posh (next to North Pattaya bus station)? Looks finished to me?

Heavily chinese bought i heard somewhere

[digbeth]

2 hours ago, rak sa_ngop said:

So what is the story behind Pattaya Posh (next to North Pattaya bus station)? Looks finished to me?

I checked and there's nothing on rental too, strange

[balo]

They will turn it into a tourist attraction. Just give it some paint and laser lights . Then maybe you can do bungy jumping from the top. 

[Basil B]

Well at least it got off the ground...

 

On project that I know of (Soi5/second road, Jomtien) apart from some piles being placed in the ground has gone no further in 12 years. 

 

Also another (the plot south of Jomtien Beach Condominium)...

[johng]

 

 

 

Well at least it got off the ground...

 

On project that I know of (Soi5/second road, Jomtien) apart from some piles being placed in the ground has gone no further in 12 years. 

 

 

Ahh yes the tallest tower in Thailand.

They even removed the cement mixing plant eventually.

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[Basil B]

Well I see the cement mixing plant has gone...

 

See they still have the web site up, but only a front page that says nowt...