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[Rhys]

1 hour ago, SuperTed said:

 

Better than looking at naked women


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  Bikes  Bikes and Babes in Bikinis... go together.... at times

[thaiguzzi]

7 hours ago, SuperTed said:

Don’t do it. The Scrambler is all looks. It’s heavy, unbalanced and hard to control. And Ducati Thailand are the worst when it comes to service.

Monster is a much better go fast bike, and Multistrada is just a great all around bike.

Disagree.

1. The Multistrada is a completely different genre, or kettle of fish compared to the above cafe racer which the guy was interested in.

Disagree.

2. The air cooled 797 Monster and Scrambler 803 are virtually identical bikes. Same engine, same exhaust, same airbox and plastics, same s/arm, same weight. Same bhp and torque, same cc.  Different trellis frame, wheels, front brake set up and cycle parts. Just wearing different clothes. Sorta.

  Unless you are comparing apples with oranges and talking about the 821 liquid cooled 4V bikes.

Regards,

 an aircooled Monster nerd, who knows his stuff....

8 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

That top one doesn't seem to have the same meaty rear swingarm/driveshaft housing as the green one or the Martini colours one in previous post .. Has it been converted to chain .? Its hard to tell from just the one side .. 

It's based on the current V7, which runs the shaft thru the dinky alloy s/arm on the right. Same as the V50 (500cc inc the famous Monza)and V35 (350cc) the bike is based on from the late 70's. These were designated the "small twins" from the factory.

 The bike below is based on a big twin Ballagio, with Guzzi's version of a single side swing arm. The same s/arm as fitted below on a custom Griso model. A year or two ago, i spied a 4V or 8V (can't remember) new grey import 100% legit Griso in a BKK dealers on their website. A cool 990,000 Thai Baht. Considering what you get over here for a mil, i thought it was a bargain. Wanted it badly. Did'nt have a mil.

 Never ever seen nor heard of a Guzzi v twin as we know it (ie mid 60's onwards) with a chain conversion.

 

 

 

[SuperTed]

It's based on the current V7, which runs the shaft thru the dinky alloy s/arm on the right. Same as the V50 (500cc inc the famous Monza)and V35 (350cc) the bike is based on from the late 70's. These were designated the "small twins" from the factory.
 The bike below is based on a big twin Ballagio, with Guzzi's version of a single side swing arm. The same s/arm as fitted below on a custom Griso model. A year or two ago, i spied a 4V or 8V (can't remember) new grey import 100% legit Griso in a BKK dealers on their website. A cool 990,000 Thai Baht. Considering what you get over here for a mil, i thought it was a bargain. Wanted it badly. Did'nt have a mil.
 Never ever seen nor heard of a Guzzi v twin as we know it (ie mid 60's onwards) with a chain conversion.
 

 
 

@ThaiGuzzi - I don’t have the credentials you do, and have not ridden a Monster. Monster was what my gear head friend recommended if I wanted the Scrambler engine.

Have you ridden Scramblers? I am sticking to my comments on poor balance, poor maneuverability and poor Ducati service.

Great pics, thanks.


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[Justgrazing]

#212 above thanks .. 

There you go Guzz' a custom and a lovely oldie ( Italian plod bike .? ) drum brake n'all .. 

[Justgrazing]

Super rare Crocker ..

[Justgrazing]

60's Ducati Apollo V4 1257 never put it into production .. 

Cooled out old Panther complete with Brough style petrol tank .. 

[thaiguzzi]

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

60's Ducati Apollo V4 1257 never put it into production .. 

Yeah, the Apollo was never going to make it. Thankfully. Police bikes and the touring market in Italy has been owned by Moto Guzzi since pre-war days. Ducati & most other Italian manufacturers are/were known for their sports bikes, even if they were 175/250 tiddlers. Moto Guzzi as well, but they were also (as well as Gilera with their big singles) heavily into the cop market and heavy duty touring models which (sensibly) were their bread & butter and paid the bills.

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Cooled out old Panther complete with Brough style petrol tank .. 

Now that is nice. Love it.

Top speed 70 mph solo. Going up a steep hill with a sidecar & 3 people, top speed 69 mph...

Not only the tank, love the Ducati-esque pipes.

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I'll contribute some porn i actually own;

 

 

 

[Damrongsak]

16 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

... Cooled out old Panther ...

I love the comment in the Wiki article:  " These heavyweight big single-cylinder "slopers" were often described as "firing once every lamp-post" due to their low rpm."

[Justgrazing]

4 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

I love the comment in the Wiki article:  " These heavyweight big single-cylinder "slopers" were often described as "firing once every lamp-post" due to their low rpm."

There you go Dam' another couple of old Panthers for ye'z .. 

[Damrongsak]

I'm not familiar with old bikes, but seems to me the Panthers had a few innovative features.

[Justgrazing]

4 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

Yeah, the Apollo was never going to make it. Thankfully. Police bikes and the touring market in Italy has been owned by Moto Guzzi since pre-war days. Ducati & most other Italian manufacturers are/were known for their sports bikes, even if they were 175/250 tiddlers. Moto Guzzi as well, but they were also (as well as Gilera with their big singles) heavily into the cop market and heavy duty touring models which (sensibly) were their bread & butter and paid the bills.

Now that is nice. Love it.

Top speed 70 mph solo. Going up a steep hill with a sidecar & 3 people, top speed 69 mph...

Not only the tank, love the Ducati-esque pipes.

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I'll contribute some porn i actually own;

 

 

 

Nice looking bike that mate .. I'm digging the oil tank and minimalist exhausts .. No drum brakes about .?Is that you're gaff in Thailand as the backdrop .. 

 

Yea the Apollo looks a bit of a porker but an interesting concept for the time nonetheless .. 

 

Yeah I've heard the Panther max' speed was pretty much the same solo or sidecar .. But sadly along with just about everyone else they slipped beneath the waves .. 

[Justgrazing]

3/4's of a brick .. Not you're usual first choice for cooling out but that is a nice paint job on the tank .. Had a blast on one of these back in the day from Gloucester to Brighton unbelievably smooth for a 3 and quite punchy at 70/80 mph .. 

[kelboy]

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 11:41 PM, Rhys said:

Nice

[Justgrazing]

Can't say I've seen a crossover like this Vincati before .. 

[thaiguzzi]

21 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Can't say I've seen a crossover like this Vincati before .. 

Much as i love my Vincents dearly, im not sure that it is an improvement over an air cooled 2V Ducati motor. Certainly valve clearance services should be quicker, but that is about it, as the air cooled Desmo 2V Ducati motor is reknowned for ease of service and longevity. And is also a looker in it's own right.

 Beautiful motorcycle though.

   I'm pretty sure i've seen a Ducati motor on the net in a Vincent rolling chassis with Vincent tinware also.

[Justgrazing]

1 minute ago, thaiguzzi said:

Much as i love my Vincents dearly, im not sure that it is an improvement over an air cooled 2V Ducati motor. Certainly valve clearance services should be quicker, but that is about it, as the air cooled Desmo 2V Ducati motor is reknowned for ease of service and longevity. And is also a looker in it's own right.

 Beautiful motorcycle though.

   I'm pretty sure i've seen a Ducati motor on the net in a Vincent rolling chassis with Vincent tinware also.

My thoughts Guzz' .. as you say the original Duke lump wasn't too shabby anyway .. On looks there's not a lot to choose between them as the Vinnie engine is a thing of beauty .. I put it up as it its quite an unusual crossover .. I'll go look later for Vinnie's with Duke engines .. 

[thaiguzzi]

On 10/2/2018 at 1:40 AM, Justgrazing said:

Nice looking bike that mate .. I'm digging the oil tank and minimalist exhausts .. No drum brakes about .?Is that you're gaff in Thailand as the backdrop ..  

Ta velly much.

# Owned from new '79 T140E. 830cc, Weslake billet stroker crank with Carillo rods. Front brake is Yamaha FZR1000 Exup as are the forks (43mm instead of stock 36mm Triumph forks). Calipers are by the British company Billet Brakes.

 # Oil tank is stainless steel and holds a full gallon (4 litres in new money), but i run it at 6 pints with 2 pints of air. Originally the oil was in the frame, and BSA/Triumph designed it to be a 6 pint tank, but in their infinite wisdom it ended up as a 4 pint tank, hence why most OIF T120/T140's run hot in hotter climates.

 # Exhausts are 1 3/4" straight thru, 37" long, based on the '60's TT pipes, but exiting both one one side instead of underneath and finishing in front of the rear wheel. Bit too big a diameter for road use, 1/5/8" would be better and give more mid range, but they just don't look so cooooooooooool. ????

# Gaff is opposite my MIL's house, about 10kms away, my daughter was about that day and took a bunch of arty-farty photos, she's a bit handy with a camera.

  Here's a couple more shot on that day;

 

You can see the massive 13" front disc and 6 pot caliper in this pic below,

 

 

[Justgrazing]

4 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

I'm pretty sure i've seen a Ducati motor on the net in a Vincent rolling chassis with Vincent tinware also.

Best I can find on a Vincent Chassis / Duke engine is this Egli .. 

 

But during my perambulations I found this Vinnie in the bottom shot .. I always thought Vincents looked best in black but having seen this orange stunner I can turnaround .. Front drum n'all Guzz' what more could a chap want .. 

[Justgrazing]

Check out the pinstriping on this old Rudge .. 

And a not often seen Royal Enfield Interceptor .. 

[thaiguzzi]

9 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

And a not often seen Royal Enfield Interceptor ..

If you have ever seen one of these engines close up, internally & externally, you can see what an impressive, massive bit of kit they are. Magnificent 90mm stroke....

And then we get the "new revelation, the 2018 emasculated, counterbalanced, 270 degree, short stroke PC correct retro-saddo-thingy"...

Meanwhile here's another proper engine. Very popular with my mates in England...

 

[Justgrazing]

2 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

If you have ever seen one of these engines close up, internally & externally, you can see what an impressive, massive bit of kit they are. Magnificent 90mm stroke....

And then we get the "new revelation, the 2018 emasculated, counterbalanced, 270 degree, short stroke PC correct retro-saddo-thingy"...

Meanwhile here's another proper engine. Very popular with my mates in England...

 

Is that a Rocket 3 .? I'll bet it sounds like a low flying bomber with that exhaust .. 

[thaiguzzi]

1 minute ago, Justgrazing said:

Is that a Rocket 3 .? I'll bet it sounds like a low flying bomber with that exhaust .. 

Jawohl. 2300cc. Or lets say 2 point 3 litre. It sounds better.

No one is bothered about the bhp figures. Everyone just goes on about the STOCK 165 Ibft of torque baby!

You want noize?

Check out the Carpenter USA tuned Rocket 3's on You Tube. Over 200 bhp. Check out the big UK tuning company making blowers & turbo kits for these bikes - over 300 bhp....

[SuperTed]

7 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Jawohl. 2300cc. Or lets say 2 point 3 litre. It sounds better.

No one is bothered about the bhp figures. Everyone just goes on about the STOCK 165 Ibft of torque baby!

You want noize?

Check out the Carpenter USA tuned Rocket 3's on You Tube. Over 200 bhp. Check out the big UK tuning company making blowers & turbo kits for these bikes - over 300 bhp....

300bhp and 250lb ft of torque, for those days when you need to pull your yacht up a mountain with your motorbike. Ridiculous. 

 

You need to have hands of a brain surgeon to have any reasonable control of a throttle connected to 300bhp.

 

absolutley love it

[Justgrazing]

4 hours ago, SuperTed said:

300bhp and 250lb ft of torque, for those days when you need to pull your yacht up a mountain with your motorbike. Ridiculous. 

 

You need to have hands of a brain surgeon to have any reasonable control of a throttle connected to 300bhp.

 

absolutley love it

Scandinavian super nutter brain surgeon Ghost Rider getting it on , on his big boosted 'Busa .. 

[Issanman]

Daytona 2002

Boss Hoss small-block Chevrolet V8 powered.

 

[melvinmelvin]

 

mean machine,

 

 

[Damrongsak]

14 hours ago, SuperTed said:

300bhp and 250lb ft of torque, for those days when you need to pull your yacht up a mountain with your motorbike. Ridiculous. 

 

You need to have hands of a brain surgeon to have any reasonable control of a throttle connected to 300bhp.

 

absolutley love it

Yawn.  If you want horsepower, you need to drive a car.

 

8.2 liter V-8. Around 10,000 horsepower, with torque around 7,500 lb-ft (with peak measured at 12,000 lb-ft ). Pretty peppy, too. 0-500+ km/hr in 3.8 seconds.

 

Pretty interesting for motor-heads:  https://motoiq.com/nerds-eye-view-inside-10000-horsepower/

 

Maintenance isn't too bad.  Just a rebuild about every 5 seconds of run time or 300 meters, whichever comes first.  Stuff like the crankshaft may last a minute or 3 km.

 

 

[Pepper9187]

How about that one :

 

(how much does a rear tire costs !?)

 

[mogandave]

If you the dough for the bike, you have the dough for the tires...that said, I imagine it would be easy to burn through them pretty quick...

[thaiguzzi]

Bump.

 

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