1 minute ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, apparently she underestimated the danger, in that case she was not blameless 100%

I disagree

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

No idea why that would change my view that victim blaming is wrong.

 

No victim blaming, but most people are judgmental.

 

I don't see much "victim blaming" when women get poured with gasoline by jealous boyfriends and husbands. I think most people are saying is that it comes with the territory and will feel less sorry for a woman who chose this line of profession.

 

The woman will, however, get equal justice. At least in the West she would. In Thailand it will depend on who is who.

1 minute ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

No victim blaming, but most people are judgmental.

 

I don't see much "victim blaming" when women get poured with gasoline by jealous boyfriends and husbands. I think most people are saying is that it comes with the territory and will feel less sorry for a woman who chose this line of profession.

 

The woman will, however, get equal justice. At least in the West she would. In Thailand it will depend on who is who.

I disagree that anything came “with the territory”. 

 

She chose how to live her life. 

 

She had that right. 

 

Anyone disliking her choices could have just just walked away. 

 

As you say, some pick and choose who is a victim and/or believe a victim can be responsible for crimes committed upon them, I don’t share that philosophy. 

A few remarks with personal comments have been removed.   Continue and face a SUSPENSION.  

 

This is the final warning to stay on topic.   Stop bickering and baiting.

 

11 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

in life choices have consequences

Does that include murder? 

11 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

The victim is not to blame. 

Sometimes they are.

It wasn't as if 'Wallop' attacked a random woman in the street.

And she probably knew the danger of hanging out with a money lender/gangster.

I've been out for drinks with a few Thai gang members in the past, and it's not a 'safe' choice.

They are normally aggressive drunks, with very short fuses, and often carry knives and guns.

There is no excuse for taking a life, especially over a bird or your money.....?

Additional troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

On 9/5/2018 at 12:27 PM, giddyup said:

People fool around, they lie and cheat. It's human nature, you just have to accept it. I've done it and I've had it done to me. Move on.

You mean lowly evolved human beings fool, lie and cheat around. That is called devolved or low evolved human being. True human nature isn't like that.  

22 minutes ago, Bkkthebest said:

You mean lowly evolved human beings fool, lie and cheat around. That is called devolved or low evolved human being. True human nature isn't like that.  

What planet are you living on? Show me any society where people mate for life and are monogamous throughout. The people, at least in western societies, who don't play up are usually either terrified of being discovered, or lack the opportunity. It's only social taboos that stop people being totally promiscuous.

47 minutes ago, giddyup said:

What planet are you living on? Show me any society where people mate for life and are monogamous throughout. The people, at least in western societies, who don't play up are usually either terrified of being discovered, or lack the opportunity. It's only social taboos that stop people being totally promiscuous.

FYI, Planet Earth. And i don't surround myself with lowly evolved human beings too. That is why i can see clearly the sad outcome from such savage behaviour, even before it happens.

Pretty girls and ladies will always pick a pretty boy. That is the reality. 

 

No pretty female will choose and ugly and fat bloke, unless he has the money. 

 

I bet that fat and ugly bloke shows her off to all his friends and earn super admiration points till he found out he is a fool. What a loss of face, to a Thai.

1 hour ago, Bkkthebest said:

FYI, Planet Earth. And i don't surround myself with lowly evolved human beings too. That is why i can see clearly the sad outcome from such savage behaviour, even before it happens.

Who you surround yourself with is your business, and they must be a pretty squeaky clean crowd if there's not a liar or cheater among them, but I'm talking about common human nature, not some Mills and Boon version. 

3 hours ago, giddyup said:

Who you surround yourself with is your business, and they must be a pretty squeaky clean crowd if there's not a liar or cheater among them, but I'm talking about common human nature, not some Mills and Boon version. 

The common human nature is not human nature. That nature you are referring to is filled with inferiority complex, insecurity and fear. 

 

My social group isn't like that. I am pointing out my social group is to make a point that there are human beings who are much evolved than the rest and they exist. 

4 hours ago, Bkkthebest said:

I bet that fat and ugly bloke shows her off to all his friends and earn super admiration points till he found out he is a fool. What a loss of face, to a Thai.

the Thai bloke and the bird deff loss their future..period

2 hours ago, Bkkthebest said:

The common human nature is not human nature. That nature you are referring to is filled with inferiority complex, insecurity and fear. 

 

My social group isn't like that. I am pointing out my social group is to make a point that there are human beings who are much evolved than the rest and they exist. 

Really?  "Who are much evolved than the rest and they exist"? You know you are coming across as completely cuckoo?  

14 hours ago, Artisi said:

Does that include murder? 

Yes it does, for some

14 hours ago, transam said:

There is no excuse for taking a life, especially over a bird or your money.....?

You are perfectly correct, but it does not stop it happening, now does it

One needs to remember that for one's own good

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

Really?  "Who are much evolved than the rest and they exist"? You know you are coming across as completely cuckoo?  

How i come across to you is non of my business. I am just making a point that not all people are referred to as your type of human nature.

8 hours ago, giddyup said:

What planet are you living on? Show me any society where people mate for life and are monogamous throughout. The people, at least in western societies, who don't play up are usually either terrified of being discovered, or lack the opportunity. It's only social taboos that stop people being totally promiscuous.

It really isnt social taboos , being promiscuous, having a different woman every night, gets boring after a few weeks .

   Once you've got that out your system, you no longer feel the need to be promiscuous

37 minutes ago, sanemax said:

It really isnt social taboos , being promiscuous, having a different woman every night, gets boring after a few weeks .

   Once you've got that out your system, you no longer feel the need to be promiscuous

Promiscuous doesn't necessarily mean a different woman (or man) every night, it could be once a week, and tell rock stars who slept with thousands of women during the height of their careers that it gets boring. There is a social stigma attached to promiscuity, especially for women.

 

46 minutes ago, sanemax said:

It really isnt social taboos , being promiscuous, having a different woman every night, gets boring after a few weeks .

   Once you've got that out your system, you no longer feel the need to be promiscuous

Once you got out of that system, you are considered to have evolved.

14 hours ago, sanemax said:

It really isnt social taboos , being promiscuous, having a different woman every night, gets boring after a few weeks .

   Once you've got that out your system, you no longer feel the need to be promiscuous

Unfortunately the opportunity of every night never arose ?

On 9/9/2018 at 9:24 PM, Bluespunk said:

Nothing she did justifies his actions. 

 

She is 100% not to blame. 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30355714

 

Wonder why the nigerian is arrested and the girl of this story was not... both are romance scam after all...and it would have saved her life.

 

 

2 minutes ago, mizou198 said:

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30355714

 

Wonder why the nigerian is arrested and not the girl of this story was not... both are romance scam after all...and it would have saved her life.

 

 

The only thing required for this woman to be living, would be the filth who murdered her had not done so. 

 

She did nothing wrong. 

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

The only thing required for this woman to be living, would be the filth who murdered her had not done so. 

  

She did nothing wrong. 

 

It's strange you don't see this story as a romance scam where the victim (the guy) took the justice in his hands and killed the thief. 

I agree she didn't deserved to die for her actions and i agree that it's wrong to do justice yourself but she was asking for troubles.

 

What is much more serious, in my opinion, is we see almost no romances scam investigated by the Thai police when it's a thai girl who target a foreigner, but we see almost one article every week about a nigerian who scam thai ladies. Yet several neighbours of mine have nice stories to says about this... 

 

 

Just now, mizou198 said:

 

It's strange you don't see this story as a romance scam where the victim (the guy) took the justice in his hands and killed the thief. 

I agree she didn't deserved to die for her actions and i agree that it's wrong to do justice yourself but she was asking for troubles.

 

What is much more serious, in my opinion, is we see almost no romances scam investigated by the Thai police when it's a thai girl who target a foreigner, but we see almost one article every week about a nigerian who scam thai ladies. Yet several neighbours of mine have nice stories to says about this... 

 

 

I see the story for what it is. 

 

A pathetic scum bag of a man whose fragile ego led him to murder a woman he couldn’t control. 

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

I see the story for what it is. 

 

A pathetic scum bag of a man whose fragile ego led him to murder a woman he couldn’t control. 

 

you must have been a politician or something similar in a previous life @Bluespunk ???? In french we say you have a wooden tongue. Not sure if you have this saying in english.

 

 

Although the punishment is a bit too hard...... Had she not been such a b1tch, she would probably be alive.

Whoops got found out.