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[mrbojangles]

Well done to Liam Delap who has won PL2 Player of the Season

[mrbojangles]

10 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

Well done to Liam Delap who has won PL2 Player of the Season

 

And Ruben Dias has been named the Premier League Player of the Season, while Pep Guardiola has won the award for Manager of the Season

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

 

And Ruben Dias has been named the Premier League Player of the Season, while Pep Guardiola has won the award for Manager of the Season

 

 

[mrbojangles]

And now Phil Foden as Young Player of the Season.

 

Pretty impressive season for the lads

[RickG16]

22 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

And now Phil Foden as Young Player of the Season.

 

Pretty impressive season for the lads

To me Cancelo has gone underappreciated. In Pep's system he looks a scary player. Almost hard to believe he is a defender sometimes. 

 

But as I say, all about the system. The way Southgate plays I think England night need a good defensive right back, yet the best defensive right back isn't in the squad IMO

[Bredbury Blue]

1 hour ago, RickG16 said:

To me Cancelo has gone underappreciated. In Pep's system he looks a scary player. Almost hard to believe he is a defender sometimes. 

 

But as I say, all about the system. The way Southgate plays I think England night need a good defensive right back, yet the best defensive right back isn't in the squad IMO

Appreciated by his peers as he was in the PFA PL Team of the Year. 

 

He had a great period and then went away on the international break (was it in April?) and his form dropped on his return and he was back to being Walker or Zinchenko stand in. 

 

A decent player but sometimes he tries too much. Got to stop watching the KdB vids.

 

If I remember Southgate's squad, he's got 4 RBs, 2 LBs and Walker, injured Maguire and is it Mings, a few midfielders and a lot of forwards. Some imbalances. 

Edited June 5, 2021 by Bredbury Blue

[champers]

11 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Appreciated by his peers as he was in the PFA PL Team of the Year. 

 

He had a great period and then went away on the international break (was it in April?) and his form dropped on his return and he was back to being Walker or Zinchenko stand in. 

 

A decent player but sometimes he tries too much. Got to stop watching the KdB vids.

 

If I remember Southgate's squad, he's got 4 RBs, 2 LBs and Walker, injured Maguire and is it Mings, a few midfielders and a lot of forwards. Some imbalances. 

TAA's replacement will be named after Romania game today. I hope he actually picks West Ham's Lingaard.

[petermik]

7 hours ago, champers said:

TAA's replacement will be named after Romania game today. I hope he actually picks West Ham's Lingaard.

No such player on West Ham`s books.....there is a Jess Lingard at Man Utd though.

[Bredbury Blue]

Kevin de Bruyne has won the Professional Footballers' Association men's Players' Player of the Year award for the second consecutive season. De Bruyne, 29, is the second player to retain the men's award, after Cristiano Ronaldo did so at Manchester United.

 

City team-mate Phil Foden won the PFA Young Player of the Year award.

 

 

Steange. KdB wouldn't even get my vote for City's player of the season (Father Ruben).

[wilai]

4 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

De Bruyne, 29, is the second player to retain the men's award, after Cristiano Ronaldo did so at Manchester Unite

Think you are forgetting Thierry Henry.

[Bredbury Blue]

29 minutes ago, wilai said:

Think you are forgetting Thierry Henry.

I used a quote from the BBC, who obviously forgot about Terry Henry.

Edited June 7, 2021 by Bredbury Blue

[Bredbury Blue]

28 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I used a quote from the BBC, who obviously forgot about Terry Henry.

 

 

[mrbojangles]

 

 

After Wilai correcting the poor BBC's reporting, thought I'd have a quick look at the history. Brings back some memories eh 

 

Professional Footballers' Association men's Players' Player of the Year

 

Year		Player	Club	Also won
1973–74		Norman Hunter	Leeds United
1974–75		Colin Todd	Derby County
1975–76		Pat Jennings	Tottenham Hotspur
1976–77		Andy Gray	Aston Villa	YPY
1977–78		Peter Shilton	Nottingham Forest
1978–79		Liam Brady	Arsenal
1979–80		Terry McDermott	Liverpool	FWA
1980–81		John Wark	Ipswich Town
1981–82		Kevin Keegan	Southampton
1982–83		Kenny Dalglish	Liverpool	FWA
1983–84		Ian Rush	Liverpool	FWA
1984–85		Peter Reid	Everton
1985–86		Gary Lineker	Everton	FWA
1986–87		Clive Allen	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA
1987–88		John Barnes	Liverpool	FWA
1988–89		Mark Hughes	Manchester United
1989–90		David Platt	Aston Villa
1990–91		Mark Hughes (2)	Manchester United
1991–92		Gary Pallister	Manchester United
1992–93		Paul McGrath	Aston Villa
1993–94		Eric Cantona	Manchester United
1994–95		Alan Shearer	Blackburn Rovers	PPS
1995–96		Les Ferdinand	Newcastle United
1996–97		Alan Shearer (2)	Newcastle United
1997–98		Dennis Bergkamp	Arsenal	FWA
1998–99		David Ginola	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA
1999–2000		Roy Keane	Manchester United	FWA
2000–01		Teddy Sheringham	Manchester United	FWA
2001–02		Ruud van Nistelrooy	Manchester United	FPY
2002–03		Thierry Henry	Arsenal	FWA, FPY
2003–04		Thierry Henry (2)	Arsenal	FWA, FPY, PPS
2004–05		John Terry	Chelsea
2005–06		Steven Gerrard	Liverpool
2006–07		Cristiano Ronaldo	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, YPY, PPS
2007–08		Cristiano Ronaldo (2)	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, PPS
2008–09		Ryan Giggs	Manchester United
2009–10		Wayne Rooney	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, PPS
2010–11		Gareth Bale	Tottenham Hotspur
2011–12		Robin van Persie	Arsenal	FWA, FPY
2012–13		Gareth Bale (2)	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA, YPY, PPS
2013–14		Luis Suárez	Liverpool	FWA, FPY, PPS, FSF
2014–15		Eden Hazard	Chelsea	FWA, PPS
2015–16		Riyad Mahrez	Leicester City	FPY
2016–17		N'Golo Kanté	Chelsea	FWA, PPS
2017–18		Mohamed Salah	Liverpool	FWA, FPY, PPS, FSF
2018–19		Virgil van Dijk	Liverpool	PPS, FSF
2019–20		Kevin De Bruyne	Manchester City	PPS
2020–21		Kevin De Bruyne (2)	Manchester City

[RickG16]

6 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

 

 

After Wilai correcting the poor BBC's reporting, thought I'd have a quick look at the history. Brings back some memories eh 

 

Professional Footballers' Association men's Players' Player of the Year

 

Year		Player	Club	Also won
1973–74		Norman Hunter	Leeds United
1974–75		Colin Todd	Derby County
1975–76		Pat Jennings	Tottenham Hotspur
1976–77		Andy Gray	Aston Villa	YPY
1977–78		Peter Shilton	Nottingham Forest
1978–79		Liam Brady	Arsenal
1979–80		Terry McDermott	Liverpool	FWA
1980–81		John Wark	Ipswich Town
1981–82		Kevin Keegan	Southampton
1982–83		Kenny Dalglish	Liverpool	FWA
1983–84		Ian Rush	Liverpool	FWA
1984–85		Peter Reid	Everton
1985–86		Gary Lineker	Everton	FWA
1986–87		Clive Allen	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA
1987–88		John Barnes	Liverpool	FWA
1988–89		Mark Hughes	Manchester United
1989–90		David Platt	Aston Villa
1990–91		Mark Hughes (2)	Manchester United
1991–92		Gary Pallister	Manchester United
1992–93		Paul McGrath	Aston Villa
1993–94		Eric Cantona	Manchester United
1994–95		Alan Shearer	Blackburn Rovers	PPS
1995–96		Les Ferdinand	Newcastle United
1996–97		Alan Shearer (2)	Newcastle United
1997–98		Dennis Bergkamp	Arsenal	FWA
1998–99		David Ginola	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA
1999–2000		Roy Keane	Manchester United	FWA
2000–01		Teddy Sheringham	Manchester United	FWA
2001–02		Ruud van Nistelrooy	Manchester United	FPY
2002–03		Thierry Henry	Arsenal	FWA, FPY
2003–04		Thierry Henry (2)	Arsenal	FWA, FPY, PPS
2004–05		John Terry	Chelsea
2005–06		Steven Gerrard	Liverpool
2006–07		Cristiano Ronaldo	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, YPY, PPS
2007–08		Cristiano Ronaldo (2)	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, PPS
2008–09		Ryan Giggs	Manchester United
2009–10		Wayne Rooney	Manchester United	FWA, FPY, PPS
2010–11		Gareth Bale	Tottenham Hotspur
2011–12		Robin van Persie	Arsenal	FWA, FPY
2012–13		Gareth Bale (2)	Tottenham Hotspur	FWA, YPY, PPS
2013–14		Luis Suárez	Liverpool	FWA, FPY, PPS, FSF
2014–15		Eden Hazard	Chelsea	FWA, PPS
2015–16		Riyad Mahrez	Leicester City	FPY
2016–17		N'Golo Kanté	Chelsea	FWA, PPS
2017–18		Mohamed Salah	Liverpool	FWA, FPY, PPS, FSF
2018–19		Virgil van Dijk	Liverpool	PPS, FSF
2019–20		Kevin De Bruyne	Manchester City	PPS
2020–21		Kevin De Bruyne (2)	Manchester City

Amazing for Hughes to win it twice at a time when United were far from their best

[mrbojangles]

TalkSport are really pushing the Grealish to City rumour. 100m they reckon

[RickG16]

1 minute ago, mrbojangles said:

TalkSport are really pushing the Grealish to City rumour. 100m they reckon

I can't choose between the sad and confused emojis. Need both! 

[Kadilo]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

TalkSport are really pushing the Grealish to City rumour. 100m they reckon

Tailor made. They should go balls out to get him. 
Forgot wasting money on Kane. He’s on a downward spiral. 

[mrbojangles]

21 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Tailor made. They should go balls out to get him. 

 

Big chunk of change though. I like him but it's too much imo

[champers]

1 hour ago, mrbojangles said:

TalkSport are really pushing the Grealish to City rumour. 100m they reckon

Class player, no doubt. I hate the diving and rolling about which wins plenty of free kicks and pens though. His behaviour off field is a concern and you wonder how it impacts on younger members of the squad. I would pass on him, all things considered. Go all out for Haaland and don't sell Sterling.

[mrbojangles]

1 minute ago, champers said:

Class player, no doubt. I hate the diving and rolling about which wins plenty of free kicks and pens though. His behaviour off field is a concern and you wonder how it impacts on younger members of the squad. I would pass on him, all things considered. Go all out for Haaland and don't sell Sterling.

 

Not sure about the diving antics, his style is to draw players in and boy does he get kicked a lot. He really needs shin protection but won't put them on. I think Southagate also had the same reservations about his off field antics which is why he was getting overlooked in the england squad. I haven't seen anything bad about him lately. Maybe he's grown up.

 

I would sooner wait for Haaland to be cheaper next year and if we miss out, sobeit. He's good but not that good for the touted asking price.

 

As for Sterling. I'm always torn on him. He tries and has been really good but last season he let us down too much. Particularly on poor finishing. He either needs to sharpen up or ship out.

[RickG16]

38 minutes ago, champers said:

Class player, no doubt. I hate the diving and rolling about which wins plenty of free kicks and pens though. His behaviour off field is a concern and you wonder how it impacts on younger members of the squad. I would pass on him, all things considered. Go all out for Haaland and don't sell Sterling.

Which off field stuff has he actually done apart from driving his car somewhere <deleted> and in his dressing gown?

[champers]

59 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

Which off field stuff has he actually done apart from driving his car somewhere <deleted> and in his dressing gown?

Pleaded guilty to 2 careless driving offences last year in March and October. Got a 9 month driving ban and fines of £84K. 

Some laughing gas incidents and drunken behaviour earlier, in his youth.

Likes a party, it seems.

He has been a known talent for about 5 years but I am not aware of anyone actually putting a bid in for him. I reckon his agent is hyping him up for a transfer whilst his stock is high.

Edited June 25, 2021 by champers

[mrbojangles]

3 hours ago, champers said:

I reckon his agent is hyping him up for a transfer whilst his stock is high.

 

Have you seen our transfer/recruitment process? Believe me, our process doesn't fall for a an agent "hyping" up a player. He fits our strategy both financially and personality or he doesn't. I'll try and dig up an article on it. Very interesting.

[champers]

16 minutes ago, mrbojangles said:

 

Have you seen our transfer/recruitment process? Believe me, our process doesn't fall for a an agent "hyping" up a player. He fits our strategy both financially and personality or he doesn't. I'll try and dig up an article on it. Very interesting.

I am not suggesting that City would be taken in by an agent's hype. An agent wants to promote a bidding war to inflate the price or get a better deal for his player. I believe Villa have offerred Grealish an improved a new deal even though he signed a 5 year contract only last September.

Edited June 25, 2021 by champers

[mrbojangles]

10 minutes ago, champers said:

I am not suggesting that City would be taken in by an agent's hype. An agent wants to promote a bidding war to inflate the price or get a better deal for his player. I believe Villa have offerred Grealish an improved a new deal even though he signed a 5 year contract only last September.

 

City have let lots of players go due to not fitting in with the price, policy, budget etc etc. People think we just slosh money around but this article shows that we are actually the opposite. Worth a read.

From scouting to unveiling - the full story of a Man City transfer

Manchester City have become one of the big hitters in the global football transfer market this is how a transfer happens.

 

And with big money being passed around during the two transfer windows every year, the name of football director Txiki Begiristain has become almost as well-known to fans as those of Pep Guardiola and his players.

But how does a City transfer work? Who does what? And how do they go about trying to make sure that Sheikh Mansour’s money is being well-spent?

We took a look at the anatomy of a Manchester City transfer:

 

City’s strategic planning is second to none, and when combined with their big budget and excellent track record in the market, that has gone a long way towards making them the big English football success story of the last decade.

That planning often stretches to four years into the future, but the actual identifying of a target and the planning for the following two transfer windows begins up to a year in advance.

 

Full story:- From scouting to unveiling - the full story of a Man City transfer - Manchester Evening News

 

[wilai]

14 hours ago, mrbojangles said:

Not sure about the diving antics, his style is to draw players in and boy does he get kicked a lot. He really needs shin protection but won't put them on.

He does wear shin pads but they are as small as he can get away with. He's a fantastic player and shields the ball brilliantly. Dunno what annoys me the most...his propensity to fall over as soon as he feels a touch from behind, or the stupidity of defenders knowing what he will do and then clumsily bumping into him giving the opportunity to win the foul.

[mrbojangles]

5 minutes ago, wilai said:

He does wear shin pads but they are as small as he can get away with. 

 

Yeah I think I remember hearing they are a junior size or something. But they don't really cover his shins

[RickG16]

It's hard to believe City will pick up both Kane and Grealish for 100 mil + 

 

But I have to say I like the way they are going about their work in the transfer market, if this is true. Why not be bullish? I think it beats United's approach in recent years of tip toeing around and leaving things until the last minute. 

 

Doesn't look like Pep is afraid of unsettling the squad with these moves and why would he be. In many ways he has built an uncomfortable team environment at City, in a good way. You perform or you are out of the team. And there are plenty of players in the pipeline from the transfer market. This is how you consolidate a title winning squad, unlike the scousers last season. 

[RickG16]

42 minutes ago, wilai said:

He does wear shin pads but they are as small as he can get away with. He's a fantastic player and shields the ball brilliantly. Dunno what annoys me the most...his propensity to fall over as soon as he feels a touch from behind, or the stupidity of defenders knowing what he will do and then clumsily bumping into him giving the opportunity to win the foul.

Fair play to him though, he is actually taking the contact rather than diving. So he is a tough lad to invite fouls like Ronaldo in his early days.

[wilai]

6 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

This is how you consolidate a title winning squad, unlike the scousers last season. 

Had we had 200m in spare cash and could afford 600k pw in wages, we might have considered it....until that is the case we will just have to punch above our weight.