Please, what visa options if can't renew non-o?

[Jumbo1968]

39 minutes ago, BritTim said:

One year multiple entry versions of that visa are available. It is a great option for UK nationals in receipt of a state pension.

I have done a bit of research on the Thai Embassy London Website, I can only find the Non O multiple Entry Visa which states you have to have the 800k in the Bank,

There is no mention as far as I can see of a Multiple Non O 12 Month Visa for some one in receipt of the UK State Pension ?

Does anyone have a link ?

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

That is not the underlying question.

 

The answer for the OP was to go to Savannakhet and get a multi-entry non-imm O visa. This thread has nothing to do with agents. Keep agents out of it.

Why? The op question was OPTIONS. Personally never used an agent but if one can do the job for 25k whatever, why shoot the messenger. The op had bad year. Hopefully stuff together for better times. Right now if can be sorted with agent then why not. 

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I have done a bit of research on the Thai Embassy London Website, I can only find the Non O multiple Entry Visa which states you have to have the 800k in the Bank,

There is no mention as far as I can see of a Multiple Non O 12 Month Visa for some one in receipt of the UK State Pension ?

Does anyone have a link ?

The 800K is the Non-OA Visa - a different option.

 

It has been reported here that there is no mention of the 1-year ME Non-O Visa on the website, but it is available none-the-less.  But, it grants only a 90-day stay on each entry, requiring border-bounces - vs the "OA" variant, which grants a 1-year permitted-stay on each entry.

[Jumbo1968]

4 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

The 800K is the Non-OA Visa - a different option.

 

It has been reported here that there is no mention of the 1-year ME Non-O Visa on the website, but it is available none-the-less.  But, it grants only a 90-day stay on each entry, requiring border-bounces - vs the "OA" variant, which grants a 1-year permitted-stay on each entry.

It wouldn’t be a problem for me as I still have family in the UK, I go back every 3 months.

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, Kalasin Jo said:

If you leave to do a Savanakhet multi entry non O visa based on marriage, whilst current visa extension still valid for a few days, is it wise or necessary to get a re entry permit first in case you are refused at Savanakhet? If leaving on the day or day before the existing extension expires would I get back in for 30 days on visa free entry as a Brit? Has anyone actually been refused and faced this problem. It seems too easy!!!!

I don't recall rejections, except for those who did not have the required items, including an Original Marriage Certificate - which must be shown, but is not kept by the consul.  I recall a recent case of failure, where the applicant lacked that certificate to show.

 

In a worst-case, you could get a 30-day Visa Exempt entry by land - and that is a good border crossing to get one, provided you have not obtained 2 Visa-Exempt entries already in that calendar year.  If any question on this, I would explain you are married to a Thai, show your proof-of-marriage docs, and explain what the consul said you needed to go back and get. 

[ubonjoe]

11 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

There is no mention as far as I can see of a Multiple Non O 12 Month Visa for some one in receipt of the UK State Pension ?

Most embassy and consulate websites do not mention whether they will issue a multiple entry for or not. On some they do state single entry only. 

The requirements for the non-o visa is here. http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html#6

If you look at the page you will not see that single or multiple entry visa mentioned for any non immigrant visa other than for the OA and OX visas since the are only issued as a multiple entry.

 

 

 

 

[Jumbo1968]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Most embassy and consulate websites do not mention whether they will issue a multiple entry for or not. On some they do state single entry only. 

The requirements for the non-o visa is here. http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html#6

If you look at the page you will not see that single or multiple entry visa mentioned for any non immigrant visa other than for the OA and OX visas since the are only issued as a multiple entry.

 

Thanks Joe if you look at the Visa Fee Page Item 5 Non Immigrant it states Multiple Entry ?

Now the Embassy has stopped issuing Income Letters could a person in receipt of the UK Pension use that to obtain an Non O providing they exited the country every 90 Days instead of the 800k in the Bank ?

[ubonjoe]

15 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Thanks Joe if you look at the Visa Fee Page Item 5 Non Immigrant it states Multiple Entry ?

Now the Embassy has stopped issuing Income Letters could a person in receipt of the UK Pension use that to obtain an Non O providing they exited the country every 90 Days instead of the 800k in the Bank ?

Correct they group all standard non immigrant visas together on the fee page.

Once you have the multiple entry non-o visa there would be no restriction on using the visa to leave and re-enter the country to get a new 90 day entry.

The fact that the UK embassy has stopped issuing income letters has no relation to getting a non-o visa from a Thai embassy and using it to enter the country.

 

[Jumbo1968]

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Correct they group all standard non immigrant visas together on the fee page.

Once you have the multiple entry non-o visa there would be no restriction on using the visa to leave and re-enter the country to get a new 90 day entry.

The fact that the UK embassy has stopped issuing income letters has no relation to getting a non-o visa from a Thai embassy and using it to enter the country.

 

But you would still need a Multi Re Entry Permit ?

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

But you would still need a Multi Re Entry Permit ?

No you would not since your visa allows unlimited entries for a year from the date of issue.

A re-entry permit is only needed to keep a permit to stay valid when you re-enter the country not a visa.

[thaiguzzi]

On 12/22/2018 at 8:18 AM, steve187 said:

you will also need a copy of your Lao entry stamp/visa, can get from shop near the consulate

In 15 years of doing this (multi & single entry non O), i have never been asked for the above.

Still, only another photocopy to bring along.... better safe than sorry....

[superal]

17 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A multiple entry non-o visa allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue.

and if you exit the country and return before the visa expires you automatically get another 90 days ? So all in all the non o visa can actually give you 15 months ?  and at the end of the 15 months is a 60 day extension allowed ?

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, superal said:

and if you exit the country and return before the visa expires you automatically get another 90 days ? So all in all the non o visa can actually give you 15 months ?  and at the end of the 15 months is a 60 day extension allowed ?

Correct and you could get a 60 day extension to visit your wife that stretches it to almost 17 months.

[sandyf]

18 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

I have done a bit of research on the Thai Embassy London Website, I can only find the Non O multiple Entry Visa which states you have to have the 800k in the Bank,

There is no mention as far as I can see of a Multiple Non O 12 Month Visa for some one in receipt of the UK State Pension ?

Does anyone have a link ?

In 2017 the text on the website was as follows :-

 

Non Immigrant Visa
For other purposes than tourism, please submit evidence substantiating the purpose of your
stay.
Examples of such evidence are:
In the case of transit: a confirmed travel document (air ticket etc.) showing Thailand as point of
transit.
In the case of a business trip (Nonimmigrant "B"): a letter of invitation, a confirmation letter of
employer and/or a letter from a business counterpart in Thailand.
In the case of working in Thailand: a letter of employment from your prospective employer, such
a document should be addressed to The Royal Thai Embassy, and a copy of the companies
registration certificate in Thailand.
In the case of settlement in Thailand with Thai spouse/ Children/ Parents(Nonimmigrant "O"):
photo copy certificate of marriage, birth, Thai nationality passport/Thai ID card.(please do not
send the original)
In the case of UK Pensioner (Nonimmigrant "O"): a copy of UK State Pension.

 

That has now been amended as below and I suspect the introduction of "(aged 50 or over)" may cause some confusion, the previous reference to UK State Pension meant aged at least 65 for men.

 

Non-Immigrant Type O 

 

• For dependent child (age below 20 years): A copy of birth certificate, a copy each of employment letter, passport and visa of the parent who is going to work in Thailand, and a copy of registration of the company or organisation where the parent will work 
• For accompanying spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy each of employment letter, passport and visa of the  leading spouse, and a copy of registration of the company or organisation where the spouse will work
• For accompanying a Thai spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy of Thai passport/a copy of Thai ID of spouse, and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,400.)
• For accompanying a Thai child : A copy of Thai birth certificate, a copy of the Thai child's passport/Thai ID, a copy of marriage certificate to a Thai spouse or divorce paper/child custody paper (in case of divorce), and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,400.)
• For working at an NGO/volunteer work : An official recommendation letter or employment letter from NGO or organisation which undertakes volunteer work in Thailand, registration document of NGO or volunteer organisation
• For pensioner (aged 50 or over) : A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000 

[Jumbo1968]

48 minutes ago, sandyf said:

In 2017 the text on the website was as follows :-

 

Non Immigrant Visa
For other purposes than tourism, please submit evidence substantiating the purpose of your
stay.
Examples of such evidence are:
In the case of transit: a confirmed travel document (air ticket etc.) showing Thailand as point of
transit.
In the case of a business trip (Nonimmigrant "B"): a letter of invitation, a confirmation letter of
employer and/or a letter from a business counterpart in Thailand.
In the case of working in Thailand: a letter of employment from your prospective employer, such
a document should be addressed to The Royal Thai Embassy, and a copy of the companies
registration certificate in Thailand.
In the case of settlement in Thailand with Thai spouse/ Children/ Parents(Nonimmigrant "O"):
photo copy certificate of marriage, birth, Thai nationality passport/Thai ID card.(please do not
send the original)
In the case of UK Pensioner (Nonimmigrant "O"): a copy of UK State Pension.

 

That has now been amended as below and I suspect the introduction of "(aged 50 or over)" may cause some confusion, the previous reference to UK State Pension meant aged at least 65 for men.

 

Non-Immigrant Type O 

 

• For dependent child (age below 20 years): A copy of birth certificate, a copy each of employment letter, passport and visa of the parent who is going to work in Thailand, and a copy of registration of the company or organisation where the parent will work 
• For accompanying spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy each of employment letter, passport and visa of the  leading spouse, and a copy of registration of the company or organisation where the spouse will work
• For accompanying a Thai spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy of Thai passport/a copy of Thai ID of spouse, and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,400.)
• For accompanying a Thai child : A copy of Thai birth certificate, a copy of the Thai child's passport/Thai ID, a copy of marriage certificate to a Thai spouse or divorce paper/child custody paper (in case of divorce), and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,400.)
• For working at an NGO/volunteer work : An official recommendation letter or employment letter from NGO or organisation which undertakes volunteer work in Thailand, registration document of NGO or volunteer organisation
• For pensioner (aged 50 or over) : A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000 

Thanks for the info Sandy.

[seefah]

Thanks for everyone's advice, I successfully got a 60 day ext.

If I can get 400k before this visa extension runs out, can I continue the renewal for another year without leaving the country?

 

As already said, requirements were marriage certificate, wife's house book and ID card, plus copies, fee of 1900.

Additional things requested were a copy of child's birth cert., copies of several pages in my passport (not just my info page and previous visa stamp), TM.7 form that can be picked up at the information counter. I was also asked why I wasn't renewing my visa for 1 year again, to which I just said that I needed to leave the country.

[BritTim]

52 minutes ago, seefah said:

If I can get 400k before this visa extension runs out, can I continue the renewal for another year without leaving the country?

Yes, you can. Note, though that you cannot get another 60-day extension until you enter Thailand to get a fresh permission to stay on a new visa. Even if you have left and re-entered Thailand several times on re-entry permits, this will not entitle you to another 60-day extension.

[trigpoint]

The main potential problems will be IF you have to buy an insurance policy to cover hospital bills, big problem for over 65,s as you can't get cover , not the requirements yet... Something to bear in mind.

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