Who is actually leaving?

[jvs]

After all the talk and the dust not yet settled i just wonder how many members

here are actually leaving because of the new visa rules.

I have heard some people who say they are leaving because the beer is

cheaper elsewhere but i do not take that serious.

I am not leaving,two reasons for that ,i still like it here and i have a lot of things tying

me down.

I guess i am lucky because i still have enough income to stay here but who can tell

what happens in a few years?

 

[champers]

Start a poll. No need for you to speculate then.

[nausea]

Obviously, those who for it is no longer viable, i.e. , their money runs out. Haven't met a person yet who left Thailand for any other reason. 

[steven100]

34 minutes ago, jvs said:

i just wonder how many members

here are actually leaving because of the new visa rules.

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[None The Wiser]

I come here first time with my wife, I'm leaving tonight now and wont return.

 

Its been bad time for us, so many problems at hotel, airport, taxi, restaurant. we cant wait to get back to Ghana where it's so peaceful in comparison.

[Pravda]

Remember many celebrities who claimed they'd leave if Trump won?

 

This is the exact same repeat of that. Empty threats.

[OneMoreFarang]

23 minutes ago, nausea said:

Obviously, those who for it is no longer viable, i.e. , their money runs out. Haven't met a person yet who left Thailand for any other reason. 

Except trouble with the authorities...

[OneMoreFarang]

17 minutes ago, None The Wiser said:

I come here first time with my wife, I'm leaving tonight now and wont return.

 

Its been bad time for us, so many problems at hotel, airport, taxi, restaurant. we cant wait to get back to Ghana where it's so peaceful in comparison.

You made the mistake of bringing your wife.

It's like bringing sand to the beach - it's not necessary.

Maybe try next time without her. ???? 

[OneMoreFarang]

17 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Remember many celebrities who claimed they'd leave if Trump won?

 

This is the exact same repeat of that. Empty threats.

Here are enough threads on TV with people who have trouble getting a long term visa. So there must be some who will leave or not return from what was planned as a visa-run.

[sanemax]

Yes. I am considering relocating , jut trying to decide where to go next .

Been in Thailand nearly 10 years and just feel that now is the time to go elsewhere .

Not just the visa situation , as I'm used to that , having spent all my time here on tourist visas and visa exempts .

  Embassys and immigration used to be quite welcoming when applying to visas and entering Thailand , these days its "What are you doing coming back here again" , I could deal with that though , but theres other things going on personally and I just feel that now is the right time to go somewhere else .

   Had a great time here , no hard feelings , just time to move on

[colinneil]

35 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Remember many celebrities who claimed they'd leave if Trump won?

 

This is the exact same repeat of that. Empty threats.

Disagree mate, i know an English man who had been here about 14 years, left Thailand on thursday, said he was going to Portugal

[roo860]

I come here first time with my wife, I'm leaving tonight now and wont return.
 
Its been bad time for us, so many problems at hotel, airport, taxi, restaurant. we cant wait to get back to Ghana where it's so peaceful in comparison.

So you came on holiday?

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[OneMoreFarang]

I am surprised that one issue about moving to somewhere else is basically never mentioned: the language!

My Thai is far away from perfect but good enough to interact with the locals - even the Thais who don't speak any English at all.

 

If I would move to Cambodia or Lao or Myanmar or Portugal or many other places this would mean learning another language. That takes time and it's not getting easier for people who are a little older.

 

It's ok to go on holiday somewhere and rely on English speaking tour guides. But I think living somewhere includes knowing the local language - at least some of it.

[tabarin]

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am surprised that one issue about moving to somewhere else is basically never mentioned: the language!

My Thai is far away from perfect but good enough to interact with the locals - even the Thais who don't speak any English at all.

 

If I would move to Cambodia or Lao or Myanmar or Portugal or many other places this would mean learning another language. That takes time and it's not getting easier for people who are a little older.

 

It's ok to go on holiday somewhere and rely on English speaking tour guides. But I think living somewhere includes knowing the local language - at least some of it.

Agree but luckily the average English does not get much worse than it is here in Thailand lol.

My own; I started planning towards exit out of Thailand with wife and child at least, not 100% sure yet but fair chance we will within 2 years (Vietnam or Portugal) if Thailand keeps going down this road and exchange rates remain so horrible. Not because I can't stay but just because I am tired of the nonsense here, over priced education, pollution, less nice expats and tourists, less fun at the bars etc. etc. etc.

 

Thai food can be cooked anywhere, the climate and nature can be found at many places and it is no longer easy and cheap,
most benefits of living in TH can be found elsewhere at a lower price and with higher quality / service.

I know 4-5 people myself who left already and quite a few others who are either considering, planning or doing so within this year. 

Edited February 24, 2019 by tabarin

[BritManToo]

All my single pals have already gone, most to Cambodia.

I'm stuck here with a house and kid.

Cambodia exchange rate unchanged as they use USD.

Philippine exchange rate 670peso/gbp Vs 690peso pre-brexit.

Edited February 24, 2019 by BritManToo

[55Jay]

No, not yet.  The amounts required haven't changed, just the methods to demonstrate them.  

 

I have to admit though, it's a bit much all at once, starting with the Embassies, then the Thais following up with all this other stuff. 

 

Also will say the thing about leaving the money in the account after extension approval, while it doesn't affect me, it does annoy the s**t out of me on principle.  ????

 

[brokenbone]

i'd like to move to a country with permanent residency,

but ultimately it hinges on if my body can endure relocation.

for sure whatever nation i move to has to have fully functioning electric, i dont do power-outs

[roo860]

I'm sure you take a lot of pleasure looking after your child. At least your child has a father to look up to.

All my single pals have already gone, most to Cambodia.
I'm stuck here with a house and kid.
Cambodia exchange rate unchanged as they use USD.
Philippine exchange rate 670peso/gbp Vs 690peso pre-brexit.

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[sanemax]

17 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

All my single pals have already gone, most to Cambodia.

I'm stuck here with a house and kid.

Cambodia exchange rate unchanged as they use USD.

Philippine exchange rate 670peso/gbp Vs 690peso pre-brexit.

How are they getting on in Cambodia ?

 

[amexpat]

1 hour ago, nausea said:

Obviously, those who for it is no longer viable, i.e. , their money runs out. Haven't met a person yet who left Thailand for any other reason. 

Unless you count the increasing traffic, pollution, education for kids, visa b.s., political instability, etc. etc. 

[trd]

Who cares?

[Pattaya46]

58 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Cambodia exchange rate unchanged as they use USD.

Philippine exchange rate 670peso/gbp Vs 690peso pre-brexit.

Cambodia & Philippines may seem better looking only exchange rate,

but prices there increase yearly 3% quicker than in Thailand (inflation).

[Leaver]

2 hours ago, champers said:

Start a poll. No need for you to speculate then.

I started a poll before.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1084951-farexitfarangexit/

[Sticky Wicket]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Disagree mate, i know an English man who had been here about 14 years, left Thailand on thursday, said he was going to Portugal

Yep, my mate has left for Spain. To be fair he'd had enough about 2 years ago . He's very wealthy but has had enough of the change in attitude across the board. Making him sing and dance at immigration to the everyday Thai being less pleasant than 10/15 years ago. Anyone who can't see a huge change since the early 00's is in denial

[Sticky Wicket]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

All my single pals have already gone, most to Cambodia.

I'm stuck here with a house and kid.

Cambodia exchange rate unchanged as they use USD.

Philippine exchange rate 670peso/gbp Vs 690peso pre-brexit.

ditto!! I'd leave in a heartbeat if I could

[Pattaya46]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Disagree mate, i know an English man who had been here about 14 years, left Thailand on thursday, said he was going to Portugal

A strange decision...

IMHO he should have wait a few weeks/months to see how the Brexit will go.

In case of no-deal, Portugal (or Europe) could be a not so good choice for a Brit... 

[tabarin]

30 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

A strange decision...

IMHO he should have wait a few weeks/months to see how the Brexit will go.

In case of no-deal, Portugal (or Europe) could be a not so good choice for a Brit... 

Nonsense, before Europe enough English lived and retired there and in Spain as well.
Being afraid the visa for British people in Europe would become a problem is simply silly, typical fear crap that the mass media loves to use.

The minimum wage and requirements are not that high in both of those countries as well, unlike Thailand, they are reasonable.
Unless you only look at that Golden visa program of 5 years but that also gives you a Passport in theory as you qualify after that term.

 

Also other benefits like education, cheap land and quality build houses that you can actually own, mortgage options with reasonable interests etc.

Edited February 24, 2019 by tabarin

[Leaver]

I'm leaving.

 

I am going to Vietnam.  Nothing to do with affordability, it's just, for me, Thailand no longer offers a pleasant lifestyle for farang.  Other countries nearby are offering easier living and less hassles for expats.  

[tabarin]

6 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I'm leaving.

 

I am going to Vietnam.  Nothing to do with affordability, it's just, for me, Thailand no longer offers a pleasant lifestyle for farang.  Other countries nearby are offering easier living and less hassles for expats.  

This is the golden sentence ''Thailand no longer offers a pleasant lifestyle for farang''.

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, None The Wiser said:

I come here first time with my wife, I'm leaving tonight now and wont return.

 

Its been bad time for us, so many problems at hotel, airport, taxi, restaurant. we cant wait to get back to Ghana where it's so peaceful in comparison.

Ghana peaceful? is it the same Ghana that has been rationing the water for the farmers