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1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

No one is talking about not respecting the peoples decision, we are talking about giving them further choice on their decision which lacked clarity the first time around, a further choice for which there is no argument against despite your clearly weak parallel you drew to the Boston Tea Party. 

Ah the benevolent remainers giving us a second chance! Not respecting the people's decision is exactly what you are talking about. The first choice was clear enough to those who cared to make it.   

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45 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

No you can love both. if i didn't work I wouldn't be able to live here in China, as I wouldn't be able to get a visa to stay or work here. So I wouldn't be able to survive here. Understand grasshopper.

Trying to follow unmoored Brexiteer logic is a problem.

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6 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

 

"The moment some crazy Remainiac attempts to throw young Brexiteer @RufoloFrancesco off a bridge in Exeter."  Claims lead snowflake of the Leave brigade after having his hand touched.

You must be proud to say that! But the verbal threat was clear enough and typical of your Europhile heroes these days. Technically, it could be successfully prosecuted as assault. Well done remainers. Awesome.

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7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Ah the benevolent remainers giving us a second chance! Not respecting the people's decision is exactly what you are talking about. The first choice was clear enough to those who cared to make it.   

The referendum was clear in the wording. It didn't offer a free pass to the Hard Brexiteers. And that is exactly the point of everything since decided/not decided by Parliament. End result? Hard Brexiteers getting ready to denounce Parliament as latest Enemies Of The People.

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3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You must be proud to say that! But the verbal threat was clear enough and typical of your Europhile heroes these days. Technically, it could be successfully prosecuted as assault. Well done remainers. Awesome.

I would certainly prosecute him for a bad haircut.

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1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

The referendum was clear in the wording. It didn't offer a free pass to the Hard Brexiteers. And that is exactly the point of everything since decided/not decided by Parliament. End result? Hard Brexiteers getting ready to denounce Parliament as latest Enemies Of The People.

Yep, denouncing lawmakers and the press as "enemies of the people". Ring any bells?

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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

This poster does think it is irreparable. Irreparable with Brits themselves. Just ask the Scots, Irish and to some extent the Welsh. There is still dissent in some parts today. That's after been in union over 400 years old.

 

If you think that Germany, France and the UK are all holding hands singing 'Ging Gang Goolie' as best friends, then you are mistaken. It goes beyond football banter.

 

 

I was pointing out that Europe, including the UK, faced far more dire challenges to relations, and somehow managed. The same goes for divisions within relevant countries. With all due respect to Brexit's magnitude, it isn't quite on par with World Wars, revolutions, civil wars and whatnot. If one takes a look at European history (yes, and the UK's) - alliances, treaties and agreements being in flux is nothing new. 

 

Brexit is hyped due to two factors - a long era of relative stability in relaitons preceding it, and vested interests making sure divisions are maxed.

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11 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

The Pied Piper still has the rats following him it's good to see into oblivion. The security services, police and army if necessary will maintain robust law and order, particularly against gammon if push comes to shove. Which it won't - a few thousand frothing gammon singing along to good old Stephen Laxley-Lennon and getting kettled in central London for a few hours (Tommy Robinson as he likes to be called) is a very definition of futile. 

What a nasty little person you are, and so obviously a Remainer.

 

You have no point to make, so insults will do the job until something better comes along.

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9 hours ago, aright said:

Slowly, slowly, catchee monkey.

 

It's actually "softly, softly, catchee monkey", a proverb coined by Lord Baden-Powel when he discovered that dividing responsibility between small groups brought the greatest efficiency to the team as a whole, not sure how that could apply to Brexit, but do tell. 

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15 hours ago, Spidey said:

1. The document is live. It will be fully explained to the public before the vote. Unlike in 2016 when no one had a clue what terms we would be leaving on and were lied to by both the Brexit campaign and Russian trolls.

 

2, With a no deal exit, it's known what that would entail. Several years of negotiating the hundreds of trade deals we are currently governed by. WTO rules, in the meantime. Same as Eritrea.

 

3. It's know exactly what rescinding Article 50 would entail. It's cast in stone that we would revert to terms and conditions that applied before (and now). Already been tested in the European courts.

 

In no way was the 2016 referendum dictated by "left or right", that really is a nonsense. Leavers and remainers on both sides of the house (as been illustrated in the last few days). Also, amongst my friends/acquaintances I saw no indication of a socialist/right wing split amongst brexiteers/remainers.

 

I don't even see it amongst the posters on Brexit threads, on this forum.

1) May's deal only outlines the departure agreement. It doesn't give any indication on what the deal will be once we have left, and that is really the important thing, and it is completely unknown. Plus it's over 600 pages long. How much time is it going to take to explain it all?

 

2) With a no deal exit, it's known what that would entail. It's known what it would entail but it's completely unknown what the outcome would be. I repeat, completely unknown.

 

3) Well the last i heard, it wasn't cast in stone at all that things will just revert to normal, should we want to return. For a start, remainers are always going on about how the EU is collaborative, with all nations having a say. OK then, presumably they'll need to therefore be agreement for all 27 nations that they agree that Britain can simply go back to the previous agreement. Have all the nations agreed that? Even if they have, things will not return to as they were before because this time, if Britain calls for any reform of the EU or Britain disagrees with EU policy, the EU will no that Britain is never leaving their club, so much less incentive to change anything, and it's not like they were showing any incentive before.

 

So, all in all, a new vote would be much more complicated than the one before and would involve as many unknowns as ever there were.

 

If the 2016 vote is ignored on the basis of people not knowing what they were voting for, so can a new vote, and if the remainers lose, i don't believe they will accept it any more than they do now. I don't imagine leavers will accept it either. Why would they? Once it has been shown that vote outcomes need not be implemented, no losing side will ever lose graciously ever again.

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3 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said:

How many millions of people he could feed by the wave of a hand on his death bed, this peace of shit will take it with him.

And so the usual old rubbish creeps out. Some Hard Brexiteers burning their boats now and going full-tilt.

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4 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

h4cblog being a total lunatic Conspiracy Theory website obsessed with Anti-vaccination among other things. 

 

The site linked to is dubious, but surely you are not now doubting that Soros's 1 billion pound short sell of the pound happened?  Its no secret!

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4 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The official term is "w555ers" who always seem to be losing their deposits. Baht - pound 21.48 today - let's all celebrate that. 

Are you sure it was 21.48 today as I see something completely different on the GBP/THB rates.

 

https://daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

 

Bank foreign currency exchange rates

 
 
 
From:     AED AUD BHD BND CAD CHF CNY DKK EUR GBP HKD IDR ILS INR JOD JPY KHR KRW KWD LAK MMK MOP MYR NOK NZD OMR PHP PKR QAR RUB SAR SEK SGD THB TRL TWD USD VND ZAR  To:  AED AUD BHD BND CAD CHF CNY DKK EUR GBP HKD IDR ILS INR JOD JPY KHR KRW KWD LAK MMK MOP MYR NOK NZD OMR PHP PKR QAR RUB SAR SEK SGD THB TRL TWD USD VND ZAR  Currency type:  TT Notes Sight bill Cheque Draft 
The date & time now is 2019-02-27 05:17:29 UTC. All times are expressed in UTC.
For approximate ATM rates, select the TT currency type. See also Mastercard rates, Visa USA rates and Visa Europe rates.
Currently this web site covers banks in Thailand. Banks in other countries may be covered in future if there is enough demand.
Some non-bank money exchangers have been included for comparison purposes and to help those who wish to exchange foreign currency notes.
Bank Country Updated by bank Update
no.
From To Rate Quantity
* rate
Inverse
of rate
Chart
Government Savings Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 04:36 (41 min ago) 3 GBP THB 41.208 41.208 0.024267 Chart
Kasikorn Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 03:00 (137 min ago) 5 GBP THB 41.1845 41.184 0.024281 Chart
Bangkok Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:30 1 GBP THB 41.1775 41.178 0.024285 Chart
Krung Thai Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 04:04 (73 min ago) 3 GBP THB 41.1675 41.168 0.024291 Chart
TMB Thailand 2019-02-27 02:24 (173 min ago) 2 GBP THB 41.1525 41.152 0.0243 Chart
Bank of Ayudhya Thailand 2019-02-27 02:45 (152 min ago) 2 GBP THB 41.13376 41.134 0.024311 Chart
CIMB Thai Thailand 2019-02-27 01:30 2 GBP THB 41.0902 41.09 0.024337 Chart
Siam Commercial Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:53   GBP THB 41.0775 41.078 0.024344 Chart
Thanachart Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:41 1 GBP THB 41.02 41.02 0.024378 Chart
UOB Thailand 2019-02-24 17:00 2 GBP THB 40.421 40.421 0.02474 Chart
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Absolutely. I have no qualms about being proud to be British and proud to be European.
 
The two are not mutually exclusive. Ask the French.

But what was your problem with the white working class? Some liberal unjustified guilt going on there?
Are you elitist also? Sneering down your nose at working classes, a la Emily Thornberry or Gordon Brown?


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4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are you sure it was 21.48 today as I see something completely different on the GBP/THB rates.

 

https://daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

 

Bank foreign currency exchange rates

 
 
 
From:     AED AUD BHD BND CAD CHF CNY DKK EUR GBP HKD IDR ILS INR JOD JPY KHR KRW KWD LAK MMK MOP MYR NOK NZD OMR PHP PKR QAR RUB SAR SEK SGD THB TRL TWD USD VND ZAR  To:  AED AUD BHD BND CAD CHF CNY DKK EUR GBP HKD IDR ILS INR JOD JPY KHR KRW KWD LAK MMK MOP MYR NOK NZD OMR PHP PKR QAR RUB SAR SEK SGD THB TRL TWD USD VND ZAR  Currency type:  TT Notes Sight bill Cheque Draft   
The date & time now is 2019-02-27 05:17:29 UTC. All times are expressed in UTC.
For approximate ATM rates, select the TT currency type. See also Mastercard rates, Visa USA rates and Visa Europe rates.
Currently this web site covers banks in Thailand. Banks in other countries may be covered in future if there is enough demand.
Some non-bank money exchangers have been included for comparison purposes and to help those who wish to exchange foreign currency notes.
Bank Country Updated by bank Update
no.
From To Rate Quantity
* rate
Inverse
of rate
Chart
Government Savings Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 04:36 (41 min ago) 3 GBP THB 41.208 41.208 0.024267 Chart
Kasikorn Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 03:00 (137 min ago) 5 GBP THB 41.1845 41.184 0.024281 Chart
Bangkok Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:30 1 GBP THB 41.1775 41.178 0.024285 Chart
Krung Thai Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 04:04 (73 min ago) 3 GBP THB 41.1675 41.168 0.024291 Chart
TMB Thailand 2019-02-27 02:24 (173 min ago) 2 GBP THB 41.1525 41.152 0.0243 Chart
Bank of Ayudhya Thailand 2019-02-27 02:45 (152 min ago) 2 GBP THB 41.13376 41.134 0.024311 Chart
CIMB Thai Thailand 2019-02-27 01:30 2 GBP THB 41.0902 41.09 0.024337 Chart
Siam Commercial Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:53   GBP THB 41.0775 41.078 0.024344 Chart
Thanachart Bank Thailand 2019-02-27 01:41 1 GBP THB 41.02 41.02 0.024378 Chart
UOB Thailand 2019-02-24 17:00 2 GBP THB 40.421 40.421 0.02474 Chart

bad jokes of all forms and shapes, today rates GBP to Thai Baht is 41.59 at 12.25pm

1GBP =
41.5922THB
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Just now, SheungWan said:

The referendum was clear in the wording. It didn't offer a free pass to the Hard Brexiteers. And that is exactly the point of everything since decided/not decided by Parliament. End result? Hard Brexiteers getting ready to denounce Parliament as latest Enemies Of The People.

Hard, soft? The egg timer really came out of the box after the referendum. Leave voters obviously want out but most of those that I speak to genuinely also wanted a fair, pragmatic agreement and not a hard exit. It is rather obvious that the EU have been dictating the withdrawal negotiations, in all respects and with no real consideration of fairness in mind, since (and probably before) they started. Their own Article 50 does not give them the right to dictate terms so one-sidedly but the UK has allowed this. Why?

 

These lop-sided and so-called "negotiations" have been allowed by a weak and suspect PM and now it's too late to know if a sensible agreement might have been agreed, if we had had a genuine and neutral leader. Hard to find one these days, I know. I have to doubt if May had that much input into "her deal", which is so bad and which has really resulted in the mess we have now - along with the EU's fear of a demonstration of a  successful example of the withdrawal of any member - of course.   

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48 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Absolutely. I have no qualms about being proud to be British and proud to be European.

 

The two are not mutually exclusive. Ask the French.

555 why are you bringing the french into this non sense

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16 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

bad jokes of all forms and shapes, today rates GBP to Thai Baht is 41.59 at 12.25pm

1GBP =
41.5922THB

Who is quoting that rate and for what?

 

None of the banks I posted are showing 41.59.

 

KBank is showing 41.1845 as of 10 am this morning.

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23 minutes ago, Mavideol said:
  28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are you sure it was 21.48 today as I see something completely different on the GBP/THB rates.

 

https://daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

this was the post indicating 21.48 Thai Baht for 1 GBP..... the site quoting 41.59 is https://www.xe.com/

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1 minute ago, Mavideol said:
25 minutes ago, Mavideol said:
  28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are you sure it was 21.48 today as I see something completely different on the GBP/THB rates.

 

https://daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

this was the post indicating 21.48 Thai Baht for 1 GBP..... the site quoting 41.59 is https://www.xe.com/

this one

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4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Who is quoting that rate and for what?

 

None of the banks I posted are showing 41.59.

 

KBank is showing 41.1845 as of 10 am this morning.

  1 minute ago, Mavideol said:
26 minutes ago, Mavideol said:
  28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Are you sure it was 21.48 today as I see something completely different on the GBP/THB rates.

 

https://daytodaydata.net/default.aspx

this was the post indicating 21.48 Thai Baht for 1 GBP..... the site quoting 41.59 is https://www.xe.com/

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