Pheu Thai to unveil post-election coalition this morning

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Pheu Thai to unveil post-election coalition this morning

 

 

All eyes will be on Pheu Thai party and its allies this morning when they call a press conference to declare that they have gathered enough political support to form a post-election coalition government.

 

Among them will be the Future Forward, New Economy, Seri Ruamthai, and Prachachart parties, according to sources in Pheu Thai which emerged the biggest winner in last Sunday’s election in terms of House seats.

 

However, it’s still unclear whether Bhumjaithai party, which is now seen as a political “king-maker”, will join the alliance.  Without Bhumjaithai, it’s most unlikely that Pheu Thai will be able to cobble up a majority coalition.  It needs the support of at least 250 MPs or more altogether to be able to form a majority coalition.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-to-unveil-post-election-coalition-this-morning/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-03-27

[BestB]

Either some major deals have been made or things are about to get even more ugly 

[FarangDoingHisThing69]

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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[BestB]

5 minutes ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said:

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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Enemy of my enemy is my friend 

[GinBoy2]

Welcome to the next coup!

 

Bookies are taking odds

[malagateddy]

Perhaps taking the consensus path could be a good thing.
Give n take and see what happens in the future.
Why not?????

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said:

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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No they didn’t hitch up with the military silly. 

[SkyNets]

I bet somebody is not doing his Wednesday exercises ????

[pornprong]

35 minutes ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said:

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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Why?

It was signalled very clearly prior to the election.

The only surprise would have been if the Democrats finally did the right thing, alas, it was not to be.

[GarryP]

I am at a loss to understand why so many people are surprised that FFP joined up with PTP. They both have policies to downsize and reduce spending on the military. They have both made it clear they could not support Prayuth as the PM.  They also have some other similar policies. And just because some believe that PT is the most corrupt party ever (the junta actually leaves PT in the dust on the corruption scale), does not make those other parties joining in the coalition (if it succeeds) corrupt too. In fact, they would probably be in a position to increase oversight over what is happening in the government. 

 

Also, of the people who voted FFP who I have spoken to, not one of them believes it wrong to join up with PT to form the government.  It seems it is mainly the holier than thou foreign crowd who have problems with it.       

Edited March 27, 2019 by GarryP

[Artisi]

Hopefully if FFP join they are very clear in what they accept as the "right thing" and have indicated their immediate exit if these conditions are not meet or manipulated. 

My thoughts are they should rough it out for the time being, remain independent and build strength and a following into their party for next time. 

[newatthis]

3 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I am at a loss to understand why so many people are surprised that FFP joined up with PTP. They both have policies to downsize and reduce spending on the military. They have both made it clear they could not support Prayuth as the PM.  They also have some other similar policies. And just because some believe that PT is the most corrupt party ever (the junta actually leaves PT in the dust on the corruption scale), does not make those other parties joining in the coalition (if it succeeds) corrupt too. In fact, they would probably be in a position to increase oversight over what is happening in the government. 

 

Also, of the people who voted FFP who I have spoken too, not one of them believes it wrong to join up with PT to form the government.  It seems it is mainly the holier than thou foreign crowd who have problems with it.       

Exactly right. Look how many forces "joined together" to fight ISIS. You mightn't like each other; you probably have different ideals but the abomination of the enemy demands a unity for victory.

[webfact]

Sudarat unveils anti-junta coalition

By Kas Chanwanpen 
The Nation

 

 

Pheu Thai Party de facto leader Sudarat Keyuraphan said on Wednesday morning the anti-junta bloc had mustered at least 255 MPs from seven parties to form a coalition government.

 

She said their shared aim was to stop the military junta from retaining power.

 

Negotiations were underway for more parties to join them, she said.

 

Represented at a press conference where the coalition was proposed were Pheu Thai, Future Forward, Seri Ruam Thai, Puea Chat, Prachchat and Phalang Puangchon Thai.

 

The New Economics Party was not represented but is expected to join the bloc.

 

Future Forward leader Thanathorn Joongruangruangkit said he supported Sudarat to become prime minister, given that Pheu Thai had won the most seats in Sunday’s election.

 

The bloc urged other parties to respect the people’s choice and join the anti-junta coalition.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30366629

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-27

[webfact]

New Economics ‘ready to join’ Sudarat’s coalition

By Kas Chanwanpen 
The Nation

 

 

Pheu Thai secretary-general Phumtham Wehcayachai has confirmed that the New Economics Party is ready to join a proposed anti-junta coalition government.

 

It was not represented at a press conference on Wednesday morning at which the alliance was unveiled.

 

Phumtham said he had talked to New Economics executives on Tuesday evening and could confirm that it is prepared to add its six MPs to the coalition.

 

New Economics posted on Facebook that its policies remained unchanged post-election.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30366631

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-27

[lemonjelly]

If it happens, Uncle will find a way to dissolve FFP, possible mass protest would lead to martial law..... also be aware that the junta selected senate sits for 5 years, elections every 4 years, so next election (if there is one) will also be doped.


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[billd766]

1 hour ago, Artisi said:

Hopefully if FFP join they are very clear in what they accept as the "right thing" and have indicated their immediate exit if these conditions are not meet or manipulated. 

My thoughts are they should rough it out for the time being, remain independent and build strength and a following into their party for next time. 

OTOH joining forces in an alliance will give them valuable experience in government that it currently lacks and could well put an end to/temper the more wild PTP ideas.

 

As for the BJT they used to be for hire to the highest bidders.

 

The Democrats are now a busted flush. They need to dump Abhisit and the old dinosaur party members and rebuild from the bottom up as a completely revamped party.

 

At least the ACT under Suthep will not be invited to join this coalition.

[jonclark]

I would now expect the current administration do go hell for leather in pushing for FFP to be dissolved on the flimsiest of possible evidence and then push for by-elections some of which will be won by PTP but the losing party list seats will got to PRPP and make their majority a certainty. Expect a push back from PRPP.

 

 

[webfact]

Thailand's opposition forms alliance, claims lower house majority

By Patpicha Tanakasempipat and Panarat Thepgumpanat

 

FILE PHOTO: Chusak Sirinil, head of Pheu Thai party's legal team, talks during a news conference after the general election in Bangkok, Thailand, March 26, 2019. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's Pheu Thai party said on Wednesday it had formed a "democratic front" with six other parties after a disputed election, claiming the opposition alliance had won a majority in the lower house of parliament and the right to try to form a government.

 

However, the coalition would likely fall short of electing a prime minister, which requires a combined vote with the upper house of parliament, the Senate, which is entirely appointed by the military junta that in 2014 overthrew an elected Pheu Thai government.

 

The outcome of the election remains shrouded in doubt, with unofficial results delayed until at least Friday and allegations of vote-buying and irregularities in ballot counting.

 

Partial results still indicate that the pro-army Palang Pracharat party would have enough votes to keep junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha on as prime minister.

 

But an opposition alliance majority in the lower house, the House of Representatives, could lead to deadlock.

 

Pheu Thai's prime ministerial candidate Sudarat Keyuraphan told a news conference that together with the other parties, the opposition alliance would win at least 255 lower house seats, based on calculations drawn from partial results.

 

"Parties in the democratic front gained the most trust from the people. Although right now numbers are still moving, we're certain we will have at least 255 seats among ourselves," Sudarat told reporters, adding that they were also in talks with other parties.

 

"We declare that the democratic front who opposes military rule commands the majority in the House."

 

Pheu Thai's secretary-general, Phumtham Wechayachai, told reporters the democratic front now includes Future Forward party, Pheu Chart, Prachachart, Seri Ruam Thai, Thai People Power and New Economy.

 

The pro-military Palang Pracharat party, which has won 97 lower house seats, has also claimed the right to form the next government due to its lead on Pheu Thai in the popular votes.

 

(Editing by Kay Johnson and Simon Cameron-Moore)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-03-27

[Samui Bodoh]

Very smart move on the part of the 'Democratic Front'.

 

It is hard to argue that a constitution is supreme in Thailand given the sheer number of them involved. Further, it is hard to argue that the appointed Senate has the legitimacy to refuse them, regardless of what the constitution says.

 

The onus is now for the Junta to argue that 'Democratically-Elected People' should not be able to form a government; that's a tough sell.

 

The Pro-Democratic forces have seized the moral high ground. 

 

Interesting times...

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2019 by Samui Bodoh

[canuckamuck]

So there will be an antijunta government and Prayut will be the Prime Minister?  It seems like Prayut's vision of creating Thai style democracy is coming true. Nowhere else in the world would you find a specimen such as this.

[Grossman]

Sadly, this most likely won't turn out to be. As the judgement for FFP was ever so conveniently pushed ahead (need more bullsh*t evidence), what I see likely happening is that the junta dorks and their masters will just play a waiting game (after all, what's the rush, the results won't be official until after the coronation anyway) with some back and forth barking with the anti-junta coalition for show and at a convenient time (immediately after the coronation to avoid unrest before and during it), they go ahead and drop the bomb by dissolving FFP (and possibly others) and announce PPRP as the undisputed winner (by having both the popular vote and larger coalition on their side after the purge). Conveniently by this time also the eyes of the international community have found more interesting things to stare at and the possible opposition from foreign countries will be limited to spineless statements (as usual). 

 

Any emerging civil unrest can then be suppressed on the grounds of national security, being a threat to a legitimate elected government.

 

Should everything else fail, they bring out the gimp Apirat.

 

Bye bye democracy, well hello there Rolex!

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, FarangDoingHisThing69 said:

Surprised to see FFP hitching up to the old order.


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Point taken, however:

 

- It will be very interesting to see what ministries Future Forward will get, and then whether they give out senior critical positions to qualified or unqualified people (this could be a litmus test for FFP and it's leaders; either they repeat previous actions of other parties all totally geared to cronyism, or they impress with capable people and real and valuable and quick actions which have good value for Thailand).

 

- Given the very good vote count and impressive number of seats FFP won, IMHO if they don't get some say in parliament (or don't join the coalition) and show some action on their policies, then their is risk they will be to some extent be forgotten by the electorate.  In fact in this scenario they could solidly prove their policies and their genuine desire to make real, valuable and serious change with early impact.  

 

 

Edited March 27, 2019 by scorecard

[webfact]

Pheu Thai bloc looks to Bhumjaithai

By Kas Chanwanpen 
The Nation

 

 

Leaders of six parties forming an anti-junta coalition ratified a brief but firm joint statement at their press conference on Wednesday morning, saying 255 MPs were enlisted to prevent the junta from retaining power.

 

Pheu Thai’s Viroj Pao-in, Future Forward’s Thanthorn Jungroongruangkit, Seri Ruam Thai’s Sereephisut Temeeyaves, Prachachat Thai’s Wan Muhamad Noor Matha, Puea Chat’s Songkram Kitlertphairoj and Phalang Puangchon Thai’s Nikom Boonviset ratified the statement in front of scores of reporters.

 

They urged parties that remain non-committal to join the effort to stop the junta from clinging to power.

 

 

The Bhumjaithai Party, which won at least 39 seats on Sunday, is in the spotlight as a possible kingmaker in the post-election equation.

It had been suggested that the Pheu Thai-led coalition could lure Bhumjaithai by offering its leader Anutin Charnvirakul the prime minister’s post.

 

But Pheu Thai secretary general Phumtham Wehcayachai on Wednesday denied there was any such deal on offer and that the nomination of a premier would be discussed later.

 

He said Pheu Thai had never offered to yield the post to Anutin.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30366634

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-03-27

[SkyNets]

Fingers crossed, good luck Thailand! Just do what they did, invite all the generals to a meeting then lock the room lol

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

So there will be an antijunta government and Prayut will be the Prime Minister?  It seems like Prayut's vision of creating Thai style democracy is coming true. Nowhere else in the world would you find a specimen such as this.

More like creating a Frankenstein politics that is heading to the cliff. Meechai ahould be proud of his handiwork in creating this fiasco. 

[Samui Bodoh]

"...They urged parties that remain non-committal to join the effort to stop the junta from clinging to power..."

 

Again, a smart move.

 

As long as the focus of all of this is on Democratic Vs. Non-Democratic parties, the forces of goodness have the moral high ground and the Junta must argue that Democratically-elected people do not have the right to form a government.

 

If the forces of Democracy ever get off this point, then they'll all get hit badly.

 

Interesting times...

 

 

[scorecard]

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

More like creating a Frankenstein politics that is heading to the cliff. Meechai ahould be proud of his handiwork in creating this fiasco. 

Not totally true el. your idol is also to blame for this fiasco. 

[jumbo]

28 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

So there will be an antijunta government and Prayut will be the Prime Minister?  It seems like Prayut's vision of creating Thai style democracy is coming true. Nowhere else in the world would you find a specimen such as this.

Is there a difference with Democratic House Majority and a Republican President?

[Thailand]

Even more likelihood of yet another coup very soon with this current scenario.

[Reigntax]

Prayuth still has 44 to override the electorate and declare himself PM.

Nothing would surprise me with this sociopath.