Pattaya in crisis: 400 million baht beach washed into the sea

[NeoDinosaw]

3 hours ago, orang37 said:

 He commanded that ......... the overseers ,,,,,,,,,, be beheaded."

Herodotus, Histories

Lucky we are wise and civilised now !

3 hours ago, orang37 said:

 

 

[NeoDinosaw]

3 hours ago, hellohello123 said:

For people who aren't beach sand experts,

 

Woukd this happen in first world countries?

 

Or is it one of those pure bad luck situations ?

It would happen in first world countries if the did the same. Eventually the tides, waves and run-off from the land will always win.

[British Bulldog]

Back in Australia and parts of the UK, huge rock groyne's are built at the right angle into the sea encourage sand depositing along hundreds of meters of beaches, apart from the original construction of the groyne's 'Mother Nature' takes care of the rest through Summer and Winter .... no earthworks required !

[Jim P]

How do they build these big hotels and shopping centres, is it all Thai engineers?

[Formaleins]

You really cannot help laughing at their stupidity, why on earth did they not ask Canute Oh Cha to protect them? Did they not bless their beach properly with the correct amulets or does God simply hate them all.

[Jimbo1964]

The phrase, "selling ice to eskimos comes to mind! "

[rickudon]

Let's be positive. They did a good job with the sandbags beneath the beach. Their still in place!

[balo]

It's not so bad in North Pattaya , I do my daily exercise from Naklua down Beach rd.

I asked a police officer about the sand that had been washed away and his reply was : Don't worry, we fill up more sand......

[champers]

If I recall correctly, pipes were laid when the new sand went in; presumably for drainage. I think there are uncontrolable deluges barrelling down the sois to Beach Road with nowhere to go but the beach.

[sunnyboy2018]

Elevated decking?

[CGW]

2 hours ago, donim said:

Why do you think the arabs are that rich?

Funnily enough the Arabs had to import sand from Australia to build the Burj Khalifa.

Useless fact of the day ???? 

[zaZa9]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Now they plan to spend another 105 million baht over the next year.

Astoundingly innovatitive idea !!

 

These peoples grandfathers were expert at controlling water distribution and fall !

 

What happened ?

[thailand49]

What did they expect? When you place drains from Sukhumvit down every major road leading to the beach along with the trash what were they expecting and yet they spend all that money for what? An expensive bandaid luckily the tourist were there they would have been washed out to the sea. To bad the officials who O.K. the deal didn't but of course while it was raining they were spending all that hard earn cash!????‍????  bunch of clowns!  Stop building roads and facilities for the Chinese to do their shopping. INFRASTRUCTURE!

[LoS itaint]

Imagine if you are the proud owner of a proprty that has maintained its market value because its location is within walking distance of Pattaya beach. In the space of 2 days as well as the beach being washed away so has the value of your property. The incompetence of the local council & the nominated contractors knows no bounds, not to mention the vendors but i will. Today in Soi 3 i witnessed a Thai women emptying a wok full of old cooking oil down a drain, last week i saw another women poking a plastic carrier bag down a drain with a stick!...Many of Thailands problems go back to a lack or poor education

[The Deerhunter]

6 hours ago, brokenbone said:

i have no malice or gleeful comments,

they tried and it didnt work out, pity.

but sand alone does not cut it anyway,

the wastewater without filter also prevent it from ever

becoming a wonderful beach

One has to wonder, if, it is as he appears to be saying, why didn't they spend 105 million Bath first, on correct and appropriate drainage BEFORE they wasted the 400 million putting the sand in for the incorrect drainage to wash away?

[Chelseafan]

4 hours ago, IssanMichael said:

You don't understand, the project was overseen by Khun Knut who commanded the sea to stay calm and not wash the beach away, i think i have his name correct!!

King Knut or Canute. But I prefer your version. I take it you are dyslexic ????

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Chelseafan

[Pattaya46]

1 hour ago, British Bulldog said:

Back in Australia and parts of the UK, huge rock groyne's are built at the right angle into the sea encourage sand depositing along hundreds of meters of beaches, apart from the original construction of the groyne's 'Mother Nature' takes care of the rest through Summer and Winter .... no earthworks required !

 

A similar system used just 10 km south of Pattaya : (On GoogleMaps)

[alfalfa19]

Not to worry.  All the major players got their piece of the action.  And they will get their piece of the new 105 million, too. 

[Chivas]

Only way to solve the issue is for the Thais to forget this ludicrous face issue and bring in proper engineering solutions and consultants from Countries who know how to deal with such issues.

Not Somchai and his bike spanners

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, Benroon said:

So many TVF experts so few solutions 

Many have given a solution : Not to put a large amount of sand in front of an area where flood waters escapes 

[Fred white]

7 hours ago, Fruit Trader said:

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

 

That would require brains ????

[sawadeeken]

NOT TO WORRY.........

In THAILAND they love to spend money on projects, and roads as well, only to spend it again soon TO REPAIR IT, as the Thai 'Officials' KNOW..... that is just more opportunity to siphon off percentages into their own (grafter) pockets.

[SiSePuede419]

Send some of that rain up north.

 

The smoke is killing us.  Literally. ????

[beautifulthailand99]

3 hours ago, Formaleins said:

You really cannot help laughing at their stupidity, why on earth did they not ask Canute Oh Cha to protect them? Did they not bless their beach properly with the correct amulets or does God simply hate them all.

All in good time my friend....he's still got a few days left of his 7 promised to fixed the Northern smog problem. Had to visit Pattaya City Hall last week and I spotted a yellowing poster of the Pattaya Skytrain project muted many moons ago. What's the bet the project budget gets topped up every year for scoping studies and the like and then washes down to mia nois or VIP club privileges at Poseidon or the like. 

[ratcatcher]

4 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Strange what some people find amusing,

   I just seen on the news that parts of Nevada have been washed away by floodwaters...that must be really hilarious alltogether?

I agree, it's not hilarious, but the Thais and particularly the gang down in Pattaya have a way of doing things that normal thinking people just look at and shake their heads. Expert planning?

As for Nevada, it also has questionable engineering projects..

http://redgreenandblue.org/2019/04/03/james-howard-kunstler-damned-dont-come-floods/

[Sir Swagman]

Who could possibly have seen this coming???? I was roundly condemned for my forecast by the minister of finance and war. Now to get a perfect tone for my ‘told ya’.

[Rori ban khun fang]

The solution to the problem is quite simple. Sack all the people responsible for their watermanagement and hire some dutchmen.

The situation on the beach is quite simple to solve.

1. Make the drainage canals end at about 250 meters in the sea. in bolder pits

2. Place stabilising knitted mats from bamboo at a depth of 3 meters to the low tide water level

3. Fill up to eb level minus 50 cm with bolders (rocks)

5 Wash the rocks in with clay soil

6. Spray up beach sand but take it 500 meters out from the sea.

 

Sorry I did work with Balast Nedam a dutch construction company specialised in watermanagement and port construction. Many dutch and belgian companies (De Mul) tried to assist with what is dutch speciality "watermanagement". All projects started but where closed and people were fired by the thai government due to the dutch way of working. No bulshit just go for it and no bribery.

Oh I am staying in Uttarad kost of the time. Watermanagement means dig the concrete canals as posted in some responses. This is the very old way of thinking. Get rid of the water. They also did this way from lake sirikit down to Uttardadit city. Make gutters to get rid of the water.

End effect is that when dry season there is NO water anymore. The soild is drying out.

In stead of creating water storage areas they move it out fast.

No controlled management

 

 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Rori ban khun fang

[Jaxxper]

8 hours ago, Fruit Trader said:

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...

 

Yep, engineered Swales is the answer, with bridges for the beach goers to cross them. 

[lespaulTV]

Planned obsolescence, these corrupt official are smarter than some smart phone makers!

[Sydebolle]

The headline is wrong. It should read THB 400 million washed into some bank accounts; in all fairness - for how stupid does the city administration of Pattaya hold its citizens and voters.

Latter might be more alert next time as it might cost them another THB 400 million for their pristine, family resort which is visited for its nature - my foot! See you further first ........