Do you believe in God and why

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

Had a rear tire blow on my bike, Ides of March, 1972.

Flew off a 40 foot cliff and hit a building, slid down to the ground.

Did I see God - no

Seen the building tho'

and that has what to do with the topic, exactly?

 

Bye.

[Sparktrader]

Too much pain for god to exist and scientifically not possible. How can a spirit create itself? It cannot. And all murders yikes if god existed he/she would stop it

 

[Sunmaster]

So, the next question would be "Why would anyone want to reach state 4 and 5?". Why not just be content with the life we're used to live at state 3 (the Waking Sleep)? 

 

In the same way we judge our dreams at state 2 to be less real compared to when we awaken from sleep, waking up to state 4 brings the realization that that state is more real than the preceding one. It isn't a coincidence that the root of the word Buddha means "to awaken"...awaken from the illusion that state 3 is all there is.
This is where we have a choice or free will; take the red pill and be willing to learn an unsettling or life-changing truth, or take the blue pill and remain content in the status quo, and well....ignorance.

 

The answer is quite simple in my opinion. Striving for state 4 and 5 is an evolutionary imperative. It's the mystery that will forever attract mankind like moths to a flame. It's what makes us complete. 

 

And while we're on the topic of evolution...I think it's safe to say that we, as a species, are not at the pinnacle of our evolution. What if the next big step for humankind is the development of a new sense of perception? This sense is already latent in each one of us, but what if, with every new generation born, this sense gets more acute and gradually enables us to tap into state 4 and 5 at will? What is now attained by a small group of people and usually through years of practice, may one day be as commonplace as the ability read.
Sure, it sounds like a science fiction story, but I kind of believe that it's not so far from the truth after all.
What do you think?

Edited June 28, 2021 by Sunmaster

[faraday]

41 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Too much pain for god to exist and scientifically not possible. How can a spirit create itself? It cannot. And all murders yikes if god existed he/she would stop it

 

God gave us free will.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

48 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

And all murders yikes if god existed he/she would stop it

Why? Do you think God that created everything would consider humans more important than bacteria? Everything that was created on planet earth is essential for it to function, even viruses and bacteria. Humans have only existed for a cosmic blink, and if we keep going the way we are will be gone in another cosmic blink, to be replaced by some other species.

God didn't just create a planet for us to live on, it is still evolving, tectonic plates moving over each other- volcanoes, floods, earth quakes etc. They kill lots of people too. Did not other species that humans exterminated have a right to live on earth too? What makes us so special, anyway?

If we can't shape up and live right then our fate is on our own shoulders, not God's.

 

[Sparktrader]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why? Do you think God that created everything would consider humans more important than bacteria? Everything that was created on planet earth is essential for it to function, even viruses and bacteria. Humans have only existed for a cosmic blink, and if we keep going the way we are will be gone in another cosmic blink, to be replaced by some other species.

God didn't just create a planet for us to live on, it is still evolving, tectonic plates moving over each other- volcanoes, floods, earth quakes etc. They kill lots of people too. Did not other species that humans exterminated have a right to live on earth too? What makes us so special, anyway?

If we can't shape up and live right then our fate is on our own shoulders, not God's.

 

God doesnt exist

[Sparktrader]

22 minutes ago, faraday said:

God gave us free will.

 

 

God doesnt exist

[Sparktrader]

On 6/27/2021 at 8:28 PM, mauGR1 said:

Do you trust the "holy books" just when they fit with your narrative ?

Just asking ????

But perhaps you were around when Jesus was preaching and you listened directly to him????

Written by humans. Great book. Nice words. But it's just a book. Dr Phil has better books lol

[mauGR1]

33 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Written by humans. Great book. Nice words. But it's just a book. Dr Phil has better books lol

I'm impressed by your knowledge of the subject ????

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, mauGR1 said:

I'm impressed by your knowledge of the subject ????

He has a way with words that really put his oh so valid arguments in the best possible light to convince me that he must be right.

What a fool I've been to believe in something that in his words "doesn't exist".

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He has a way with words that really put his oh so valid arguments in the best possible light to convince me that he must be right.

What a fool I've been to believe in something that in his words "doesn't exist".

I'm surprised he didn't mention the tooth fairy,  Santa Claus and the spaghetti monster, but there's still some hope ????

[Sparktrader]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He has a way with words that really put his oh so valid arguments in the best possible light to convince me that he must be right.

What a fool I've been to believe in something that in his words "doesn't exist".

Show me a photo

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I'm surprised he didn't mention the tooth fairy,  Santa Claus and the spaghetti monster, but there's still some hope ????

Same thing

All made up

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, mauGR1 said:

I'm surprised he didn't mention the tooth fairy,  Santa Claus and the spaghetti monster, but there's still some hope ????

Let's not forget Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Man in the Moon, the troll that lives under the bridge and the monster that lives under my bed and moves my slippers when it thinks I'm not looking.

[Sparktrader]

14 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I'm impressed by your knowledge of the subject ????

Yes I know what's real and what's not. Many don't. They still believe in flat earth, adam and eve theories. 

[Sparktrader]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Let's not forget Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Man in the Moon, the troll that lives under the bridge and the monster that lives under my bed and moves my slippers when it thinks I'm not looking.

Bigfoot is real, fights mma

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

Same thing

All made up

Yes, same same but different ????

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Show me a photo

See any sunset or a starry starry sky to see God. If you can't see God in nature that's your problem and I can't help you.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

See any sunset or a starry starry sky to see God. If you can't see God in nature that's your problem and I can't help you.

So which part is god?

 

Show me a photo

[Sparktrader]

God is a sun lol

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

So which part is god?

 

Show me a photo

All of it as far as your eyes can see. You can google a photo of a sunset as easily as I.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

God is a sun lol

 

 

That's right.

[Sunmaster]

 

Why are you guys wasting your time with this pointless quibbling? He doesn't believe...so be it. 

Some people are not ready for the red pill. No amount of bickering will change that.

 

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's right.

So hot gas is god. Sun god.

 

Moon must be the devil.

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, Sunmaster said:

 

Why are you guys wasting your time with this pointless quibbling? He doesn't believe...so be it. 

Some people are not ready for the red pill. No amount of bickering will change that.

 

I'm testing my extra-sensorial powers.

He must be very young, or very drunk, or both ????

[Sparktrader]

Just now, mauGR1 said:

I'm testing my extra-sensorial powers.

He must be very young, or very drunk, or both ????

Rather weak argument. Someone points out facts and you cannot respond with anything sensible. You must have a low understanding of science.

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Rather weak argument. Someone points out facts and you cannot respond with anything sensible. You must have a low understanding of science.

Ohh, getting sober ?

Sorry,  what facts ?

[Sparktrader]

Just now, mauGR1 said:

Ohh, getting sober ?

Sorry,  what facts ?

Exactly you have no facts to present, just childish comments. If you're sober I worry more.

[Sparktrader]

Show me a photo of god.

 

If you cannot do that you can't even get past step 1.

 

 

[Sunmaster]

Please don't feed the troll...