Navy ships out for Chinese war games

[Rimmer]

Navy ships out for Chinese war games

SATTAHIP:--The Royal Thai Navy dispatched its contingent for Blue Strike, the large-scale joint exercise with China.

 

Rear Adm. Paisan Meesri, commander of Frigate Squadron 1, inspected the troops April 26 before they were dispatched to Zhanjiang, China for the May 2-8 war games, which alternate between Thai and Chinese waters.

 

The HTMS Naresuan and HTMS Bangpakong with 410 marines and sailors will participate.

 

The Blue Strike drill is the naval counterpart to the Falcon Strike drill held between the two countries’ air forces.

 

-- PATTAYA MAIL 2019-04-28--

 

[MeePeeMai]

If war broke out between China and the USA, I wonder which country Thailand would buddy up with?  (I have a good guess).

[Justgrazing]

25 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

The Blue Strike drill is the naval counterpart to the Falcon Strike drill held between the two countries’ air forces.

They do like to strike up a catchy name no .? if there were an Army version would it be known as Disaster Strikes .. 

Just askin' ..

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by Justgrazing
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[Cadbury]

12 hours ago, Rimmer said:

Navy ships out for Chinese war games

Sorry to see the near derelict flightless aircraft carrier HTMS Chakri Naruebet didn't get a run. What an embarrassment that vessel must be to the Royal Thai Navy. 

Still, there might be a good opportunity after collectively beating off the enemy to mutually discuss a replacement at discount prices over drinkies in the Chinese officer's mess.

[soalbundy]

33 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

If war broke out between China and the USA, I wonder which country Thailand would buddy up with?  (I have a good guess).

I doubt it would make any difference but perhaps as an allie they would be more of a hindrance than a help. 

[impulse]

Reading the headline, I couldn't help but smile and recall our Chinese fire drills when I was a kid.

 

I wonder if Chinese war games are any different?

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by impulse

[davehowden]

HTMS Bangpakong: Flower class corvette, built UK 1943.

A museum piece.

 

 HTMS Naresuan: Built China 1994. 

The Thai Navy complained of the poor quality of the ships. The ship's damage control system was very limited, with very basic fire suppression systems. It was claimed that if the ship's hull was breached, the ship would be quickly lost to flooding. The Thai Navy had to spend considerable time and effort to correct some of these issues.

[Enoon]

24 minutes ago, davehowden said:

HTMS Bangpakong: Flower class corvette, built UK 1943.

A museum piece.

 

 HTMS Naresuan: Built China 1994. 

The Thai Navy complained of the poor quality of the ships. The ship's damage control system was very limited, with very basic fire suppression systems. It was claimed that if the ship's hull was breached, the ship would be quickly lost to flooding. The Thai Navy had to spend considerable time and effort to correct some of these issues

 

The current HTMS Bangpakong was built in 1991 (China) specifically for export to Thailand:

 

"The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion."

 

It's the one on the right:

 

The Royal Thai Navy frigate HTMS Bangpakong (FFG 456) is underway alongside the guided-missile destroyer USS Higgins

 

The one you quote was struck off years ago.

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by Enoon

[davehowden]

3 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The current HTMS Bangpakong was built in 1991 (China) specifically for export to Thailand:

 

"The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion."

 

It's the one on the right:

 

The one you quote was struck off years ago.

 

 

 

My error, apologies.

[mikebell]

'"In the land off the blind the man with one eye is king." Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus - In the land of the Thai, the man with the biggest gun is king.

[smedly]

3 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

The current HTMS Bangpakong was built in 1991 (China) specifically for export to Thailand:

 

"The Royal Thai Navy received four new Type 053Ts (based on the then-latest Type 053H2) in the early-1990s. Each cost ฿2 billion."

 

It's the one on the right:

 

The Royal Thai Navy frigate HTMS Bangpakong (FFG 456) is underway alongside the guided-missile destroyer USS Higgins

 

The one you quote was struck off years ago.

 

 

 

looks like it's running like your typical Bangkok public service bus

 

 

man the pumps - oh wait can't say that ………….. mixed gender the pumps

[VocalNeal]

 

Do we assume the Thai vessel is the one with the injector pressure turned up?

[henry15]

12 hours ago, MeePeeMai said:

If war broke out between China and the USA, I wonder which country Thailand would buddy up with?  (I have a good guess).

It they are sensible the join the Chinese forces.

[nervona81732]

This is a big red flag for Thailand. Soon they will be calling this place ( Thailand ) Chiland. The communist structure of China is a CANCER.

 

[sawadeeken]

59 minutes ago, henry15 said:

It they are sensible the join the Chinese forces.

Can you explain WHY???? is this coming from somebody just showing dislike for one side or is there really a reason why Thailand would be better off choosing China's side.... I'm really curious for facts, or statistics........

[Khun Paul]

3 hours ago, mikebell said:

'"In the land off the blind the man with one eye is king." Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus - In the land of the Thai, the man with the biggest gun is king.

No you mean the one with the most money 

 

[Burma Bill]

Well I never - ship 456 appears to be contributing to the air pollution!!

[wotsdermatter]

3 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Well I never - ship 456 appears to be contributing to the air pollution!!

Of course, they are.  How else do you think they could feel at home?

'nuf sed.

[Traubert]

3 hours ago, nervona81732 said:

This is a big red flag for Thailand. Soon they will be calling this place ( Thailand ) Chiland. The communist structure of China is a CANCER.

 

Interesting. Do tell us why?

[Srikcir]

17 hours ago, Rimmer said:

The HTMS Naresuan and HTMS Bangpakong with 410 marines and sailors will participate.

Versus 2018 U.S. Cobra Gold military exercises with over 4,000 Thai troops involved.

There was recently the 2019 Gold Cobra exercises but I couldn't find any mention of the number of Thai troops involved.

In any case participation of 410 Thai military appears to be "lip service" to meet Thailand's obligations with its security agreement with China following the military coup in Thailand.

[Tropposurfer]

5 hours ago, nervona81732 said:

This is a big red flag for Thailand. Soon they will be calling this place ( Thailand ) Chiland. The communist structure of China is a CANCER.

 

Tell that to the world economy yuck yuck yuck ????????????

[Justgrazing]

6 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Do we assume the Thai vessel is the one with the injector pressure turned up?

Hahaha super subtle there VN .. What's missing are multi funnels like those exhausts you see hanging out the back of the trucks and buses here and a turbo dump valving phssst'ing off the overboost when they give it full speed ahead .. 

[TheHangingJudge]

Thailand would do what they did in ww2 fold to whichever country decided to invade.

[marcusarelus]

3 hours ago, TheHangingJudge said:

Thailand would do what they did in ww2 fold to whichever country decided to invade.

Thailand invaded Burma and won during WWII.  Thailand invaded and won against France (sort of) during WWII.  Thailand had a deal with Japan and were Japan's only voluntary ally during WWII.  Thailand surrendered to the Allies and were occupied by the British and Indian armies in 1946. 

Edited April 29, 2019 by marcusarelus

[marcusarelus]

46 minutes ago, Kim J said:

The French are actually well documented in history for their great abilities in collusion and capitulation as indeed are Thailand. Add that to the fact that this Franco - Thai war went on whilst mainland France was occupied by Nazi Germany rendering the French military forces even more ineffective than their own natural limitations allowed for.

Thailand throughout history have been one of the most ineffective military forces in the World and have achieved little of significance despite their quite large numbers. All they did in this Franco Thai war was to take advantage of a situation when they knew full well there could only be a token resistance, a complete hollow victory, that indeed achieved virtually nothing some might say.

Ultimately I would think no serious modern military force would wish to do anything alongside the Thai's other than a repeat of history to use their territory for strategic advantage.

Casualties Franco Thai war, France - Total: 732  Thailand - 418. 

 

They also fought bravely during the Vietnam war suffering 350 killed and 1300 wounded. 

[metisdead]

Off topic posts containing ethnic slurs to the Japanese people have been removed as well as the replies. 

[holy cow cm]

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 8:13 PM, MeePeeMai said:

If war broke out between China and the USA, I wonder which country Thailand would buddy up with?  (I have a good guess).

The answer is as usual.... Both.

[marcusarelus]

5 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

The answer is as usual.... Both.

When the USA and China last fought in Vietnam which side did Thailand fight on? 

[marcusarelus]

26 minutes ago, Kim J said:

Of course in the Franco Thai war, Thailand came out of it the better. As I pointed out it was deliberately done at a time when the French were severely limited in their ability to defend themselves, the outcome was almost a foregone conclusion. That is of course the Thai way when it comes to any type of conflict, they will never enter into anything if there is a chance they might lose.

With regard to statistics, if you are going to quote them please at least do so with a modicum of accuracy. Here is a link to some basic information,(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War) there is loads more in depth and more detailed sources you can also find if you wish to look. Also as I said, ultimately virtually nothing was achieved for Thailand from this battle despite the continued pride over the 'victory'. The main beneficiaries of the conflict were the Japanese, who were not even involved in any fighting and consequently had no casualties at all!!

 

With regard to the Vietnam war they were just a token force, and I find it quite bizarre that you seem to be heaping praise onto any military force by way of the numbers that they lost!!

It is difficult to discuss without changing the topic.  You might want to read about it or ask someone who was there while we are still alive.  Ask about 4,000 US Special Forces-trained Thai "Tiger Soldiers" (Tahan Sua Pran) and Border Patrol Police Aerial Reinforcement Unit and "the King's own" guys with the small piece of gold on the back side of the Buddhas they wore around their necks at places like Ban Na, the Plain of Jars and Skyline Ridge.  They were in no way described as a token.  The Thai BC 609 almost entirely wiped out and called in artillery on their own position.  I was on the outside in a support role but those guys fought well and among the bravest troops I'd ever seen.