How old is too old to use the ED visa?

[Lemonlime]

I like studying!

[Isaanbiker]

You're never too old! I like studying too, keeps the brain cells working well. 

[ubonjoe]

There is no age limit to get a non-ed visa and extensions of the entry from one.

[Lemonlime]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

There is no age limit to get a non-ed visa and extensions of the entry from one.

However wouldn't they find it strange if I continue using an ED visa for years cuz I want to learn a lot of things and the ED visa is the easiest option for me?? 

 Say, Uni+Training courses etc... if I kept on enrolling into these courses for years

 

[Leaver]

Studying will become an even more popular pass time, under the new visa laws.   ????

[ubonjoe]

University studies could be for 4 or 5 continuous years or for a as long you are attending classes.

Studies at informal schools a have limit on one course of study you can do. For a language is it about 3 years if you are able to go to the advanced level of study but you could change to a different language to study to start over again.

[Lemonlime]

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

Studying will become an even more popular pass time, under the new visa laws.   ????

what new visa laws?how new is it?

[Lemonlime]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

University studies could be for 4 or 5 continuous years or for a as long you are attending classes.

Studies at informal schools a have limit on one course of study you can do. For a language is it about 3 years if you are able to go to the advanced level of study but you could change to a different language to study to start over again.

yep, I mean now I am 20 and let's say I continue getting the ED visa, by the time when I am 25 will the authorities be like "Why is she still studying?" and NOT let me in? 

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, Lemonlime said:

what new visa laws?how new is it?

There are no new visa laws. The only law is the immigration act that has not been changed since it was written in 1979.

I think he is referring to some police orders that were changed that affected those on retirement extensions.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Lemonlime said:

yep, I mean now I am 20 and let's say I continue getting the ED visa, by the time when I am 25 will the authorities be like "Why is she still studying?" and NOT let me in? 

As long as are able to get the paperwork for an a visa and extensions you could do it much longer than 5 years.

[elviajero]

5 hours ago, Lemonlime said:

yep, I mean now I am 20 and let's say I continue getting the ED visa, by the time when I am 25 will the authorities be like "Why is she still studying?" and NOT let me in? 

It’s unlikely you’d get away with it for many years unless it was formal studies.

 

You don’t need an ED visa to study; you can attend classes with any type of visa. They caught on to people using ED visas to live in the country years ago. It’s still possible, but expensive and only really a short term solution, especially at your age.

[dotpoom]

19 hours ago, Lemonlime said:

However wouldn't they find it strange if I continue using an ED visa for years cuz I want to learn a lot of things and the ED visa is the easiest option for me?? 

 Say, Uni+Training courses etc... if I kept on enrolling into these courses for years

 

Why are two visas being mentioned ...An ED visa and a non-ed visa?

[PoorSucker]

Friend of mine got an ED visa at 64

[PoorSucker]

1 minute ago, dotpoom said:

Why are two visas being mentioned ...An ED visa and a non-ed visa?

Both are short for non-immigrant ED visa. 

[gwynt]

20 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

As long as are able to get the paperwork for an a visa and extensions you could do it much longer than 5 years.

I was in Jomtien when a guy was extending his Ed-visa for second year, learning Thai, The IO spoke to him in a very basic conversation, when the guy could not answer the IO looked at me with a wry smile. These are the ones who make life difficult for other genuine people. MY Thai is OK but I could understand him.

[Suradit69]

23 hours ago, Lemonlime said:

I like studying!

You don't need an Ed Visa to study in Thailand. There's nothing to prevent people on retirement extensions or tourist visa entries from studying Thai, for example.

 

1 hour ago, dotpoom said:

An ED visa and a non-ed visa?

Same visa. the Non is an abbreviation for non-immigrant.

[OzMan]

I am 70 and the university said I can study there as long as I wanted to.

[UKJASE]

my mate at school is in his 50's and in his fourth year of ed visa,,,,,,  his thai is still quite basic, tho can read a bit too

[Happystance]

On 5/2/2019 at 11:00 AM, elviajero said:

You don’t need an ED visa to study; you can attend classes with any type of visa. 

While true, it's irrelevant to the point this thread.

 

Perhaps there isn't age limit nationally, but I've noticed some schools have age limits for enrollment.

 

Do the math tho. Add up how much you will spend total on a ED Visa and compare that to costs of just leaving the country and getting TVs. It's as cheap to travel and you may tire quickly of 4 day a week mandatory attendance in one location, unless you love the subject. 

 

The one that caught my eye was Chiang Mai self defense course. Both because it is an actual lifelong useful skill and it only meets weekends.

 

But then the crop burning season started and I realized that I wouldn't live year round in the north even if they let me...

 

 

[Lemonlime]

8 hours ago, Happystance said:

While true, it's irrelevant to the point this thread.

 

Perhaps there isn't age limit nationally, but I've noticed some schools have age limits for enrollment.

 

Do the math tho. Add up how much you will spend total on a ED Visa and compare that to costs of just leaving the country and getting TVs. It's as cheap to travel and you may tire quickly of 4 day a week mandatory attendance in one location, unless you love the subject. 

 

The one that caught my eye was Chiang Mai self defense course. Both because it is an actual lifelong useful skill and it only meets weekends.

 

But then the crop burning season started and I realized that I wouldn't live year round in the north even if they let me...

 

 

lol, crop burning season!

well, I get car sick a lot and plane sick 

so yeah and LAOS seems dirty 

[Leaver]

On 5/3/2019 at 6:34 PM, Suradit69 said:

You don't need an Ed Visa to study in Thailand. There's nothing to prevent people on retirement extensions or tourist visa entries from studying Thai, for example.

 

Same visa. the Non is an abbreviation for non-immigrant.

The school would probably not accept such an applicant, because then they don't get to sell all the relevant documents for the ED visa to the student. 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, Leaver said:

The school would probably not accept such an applicant, because then they don't get to sell all the relevant documents for the ED visa to the student. 

You might be surprised at the number of schools that have classes set up for those that do not need the ED visa.

Some schools do not offer a course of study that meets the requirement for a non-ed  visa and extension of stay.

[Leaver]

22 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You might be surprised at the number of schools that have classes set up for those that do not need the ED visa.

Some schools do not offer a course of study that meets the requirement for a non-ed  visa and extension of stay.

I remember the Muay Thai camps offering documents for an Ed visa.  Is that still happening?  You didn't really have to learn anything, nor stay fit.  Hard to get caught out on that Ed visa. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Leaver

[Suradit69]

21 minutes ago, Leaver said:

The school would probably not accept such an applicant, because then they don't get to sell all the relevant documents for the ED visa to the student. 

I doubt many "schools" will turn down business. Most of the profit comes from "instruction." 

 

Plenty of bored retirees or tourists with time on their hands take many of these informal classes.

[Leaver]

3 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

I doubt many "schools" will turn down business. Most of the profit comes from "instruction." 

 

Plenty of bored retirees or tourists with time on their hands take many of these informal classes.

When visa crackdowns occur, most of the profit comes from students requiring documents for the Ed visa, many of whom only show up for the bare minimum of classes, if at all.  So after such a long time of study, they can't speak any Thai. 

 

No bored retirees or tourists these days.  They are all too busy trying to get their head around the new visa laws.   ????

[darrendsd]

On 5/3/2019 at 12:00 AM, elviajero said:

It’s unlikely you’d get away with it for many years unless it was formal studies.

It's actually very easy

[Myran]

35 minutes ago, Leaver said:

When visa crackdowns occur, most of the profit comes from students requiring documents for the Ed visa, many of whom only show up for the bare minimum of classes, if at all.  So after such a long time of study, they can't speak any Thai. 

 

No bored retirees or tourists these days.  They are all too busy trying to get their head around the new visa laws.   ????

Strange, I could've sworn the vast majority of my classmates were not on ED visas when I studied for two years up until February. On top of that, studying on an ED visa didn't cost any more than just taking classes without the ED visa.

[Leaver]

14 minutes ago, Myran said:

Strange, I could've sworn the vast majority of my classmates were not on ED visas when I studied for two years up until February. On top of that, studying on an ED visa didn't cost any more than just taking classes without the ED visa.

Whole schools were set up solely for the purpose of supplying documents to foreigners for the Ed visa.  They were Ed visa factories.

 

I clearly remember reading in the media there were raids on some schools where the school had like, 2 classrooms, but something like 600 students registered.

 

It was obvious that the lessons could not possibly be delivered to the students, when the size of the school was compared to the number of registered students.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Leaver

[Orton Rd]

One in Times Sq Suk beginning with W springs to mind!

[Myran]

56 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Whole schools were set up solely for the purpose of supplying documents to foreigners for the Ed visa.  They were Ed visa factories.

 

I clearly remember reading in the media there were raids on some schools where the school had like, 2 classrooms, but something like 600 students registered.

 

It was obvious that the lessons could not possibly be delivered to the students, when the size of the school was compared to the number of registered students.

You don't need to educate me on the existence of visa factories, I'm well aware of them. My comment were aimed at your claims that people don't study unless they're on an ED visa and that schools won't be interested in students who don't need ED visas.