UK ever more polarised as Brexit Party storms to EU vote win

[sanemax]

Just now, SheungWan said:

Unfortunately that is the fake pass shoddily pushed by the Hard Brexiteers. How so? By labelling Soft Brexit = Remain. Dishonest politics to the core.

Its not dishonest at all .

A soft Brexit isnt  really , completely leaving .

What had previously been put on the table was the UK half staying in the E.U.

So a soft remain will be half leaving and half staying in , which isnt really leaving at all

[elliss]

6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Riveting! time for a milkshake????

 

        Milkshakes , should have increased VAT,  Violence Added TAX., 

 

 

 

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not dishonest at all .

A soft Brexit isnt  really , completely leaving .

What had previously been put on the table was the UK half staying in the E.U.

So a soft remain will be half leaving and half staying in , which isnt really leaving at all

But it also isn't really staying.

[Chelseafan]

50 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

If you remove the threat of No Deal from the table, why would the EU negotiate anything other than has already been negotiated/agreed (and they've said many times that they won't).

 

 

 

Agreed. A no-deal should be the STARTING point in any new negotiation.

 

 

 

[Chelseafan]

18 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Most Hard Brexiteers don't want to know anything other than an echo of their own opinions. And adding up Hard Brexiteers and Soft Brexiteer numbers to justify Hard Brexiteer opinion is hilarious. Stick it with the other junk they peddle.

In your opinion.

 

[CG1 Blue]

57 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteers spinning that Soft Brexit is on the same side. Which it isn't.

You're grasping at straws there, and not for the first time today

[malagateddy]

That's about all expat Hard Brexiteers will have to bet, given the ~20% devaluation of the Pound since Brexit.

Is money your main concern in life??


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[malagateddy]

Yes. I should have excluded Chelsea fans from the smarter Londoner observation.

Smarter londoners..well now..smarter at shooting.stabbing.committing gbh.acid throwing..etc etc??? .yip s/w..most certainly they are.

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[Loiner]

50 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not dishonest at all .

A soft Brexit isnt  really , completely leaving .

What had previously been put on the table was the UK half staying in the E.U.

So a soft remain will be half leaving and half staying in , which isnt really leaving at all

I wouldn't even call the now failed WAB a soft exit. It was only a capitulation treaty. It was all a trick and correctly dubbed BRINO because it was not any kind of a Brexit.

We have not seen any evidence of a soft brexit proposal yet, from any side. If there was to be a soft Brexit it could only be a full exit plus the trading terms which have not (publicly) been discussed yet.   

[Loiner]

6 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Smarter londoners..well now..smarter at shooting.stabbing.committing gbh.acid throwing..etc etc??? .yip s/w..most certainly they are.

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Although they fall into the category of softy Southerners, I would have to acknowledge that there are very few to no Londoners left in that there Londonistan hell hole. They were smart enough to abandon it to Johnny Foreigner. All the cockney geezers fled to Essex - how did they vote?

[Enoon]

4 hours ago, sanemax said:

Since yesterday 

 

UKIP had 24 MEPs.....and now has none.

 

The Nigel Party had none.......as now has 29.

 

Increase in hardcore Brexit MEPs........5 (just under 21%).

 

So the core truth is that the same old Brexit supporters have merely changed parties and been joined by a few protest voters.

 

Not at all the triumph for leave that is being trumpeted.

 

 

[Enoon]

 

The big change is in the explosion of support for the only "out and proud" mainstream Remain party.

 

The Liberal Democrats have gone from 1 MEP to 16.

 

Increase in hardcore Remain MEPs.......15 (increase of 1500%).

 

 

 

[Chelseafan]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

Yes. I should have excluded Chelsea fans from the smarter Londoner observation.

When it gets personal, you've lost the argument.

 

[Chelseafan]

20 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

UKIP had 24 MEPs.....and now has none.

 

The Nigel Party had none.......as now has 29.

 

Increase in hardcore Brexit MEPs........5 (just under 21%).

 

So the core truth is that the same old Brexit supporters have merely changed parties and been joined by a few protest voters.

 

Not at all the triumph for leave that is being trumpeted.

 

 

A 21% increase is bloody fantastic and this from a party that wasn't even heard of until 6 weeks ago.

 

 

[Chelseafan]

13 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The big change is in the explosion of support for the only "out and proud" mainstream Remain party.

 

The Liberal Democrats have gone from 1 MEP to 16.

 

Increase in hardcore Remain MEPs.......15 (increase of 1500%).

 

 

 

Yes and pretty much  all taken from the Tories and Labour.

The Lib dems were fighting on two positions, Brexit and Climate change so you have to say their support is a bit of a mixed bag.

 

 

[APJ291]

9 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

Though the Brexit Party is grabbing all of the headlines (& the largest number of seats) it's worth pointing out that the Anti-Brexit parties actually did better than those that were pro-Brexit... 

 

 

 

(Source https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48403131)

 

 

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

Is money your main concern in life??
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I know. It should be prancing around wrapped in a Union Jack going nowhere.

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Although they fall into the category of softy Southerners, I would have to acknowledge that there are very few to no Londoners left in that there Londonistan hell hole. They were smart enough to abandon it to Johnny Foreigner. All the cockney geezers fled to Essex - how did they vote?

Hello! Chips on Shoulder.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Unfortunately that is the fake pass shoddily pushed by the Hard Brexiteers. How so? By labelling Soft Brexit = Remain. Dishonest politics to the core.

 

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Its not dishonest at all .

A soft Brexit isnt  really , completely leaving .

What had previously been put on the table was the UK half staying in the E.U.

So a soft remain will be half leaving and half staying in , which isnt really leaving at all

Hole in one.

[CG1 Blue]

40 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The big change is in the explosion of support for the only "out and proud" mainstream Remain party.

 

The Liberal Democrats have gone from 1 MEP to 16.

 

Increase in hardcore Remain MEPs.......15 (increase of 1500%).

 

 

 

The Lib Dems and the Greens have many other manifesto policies that people would have voted for, not least the environmental aspects which were brought to the forefront by the recent Extinction Rebellion protests. 

 

The only single issue party on the remain side was Change UK. And they won zero seats. 

[sanemax]

19 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I know. It should be prancing around wrapped in a Union Jack going nowhere.

On  stage with sporty , Ginger , Scary and Baby ?

[Jip99]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

Don't comment on stats if you don't understand them. Labour and Tories are not included in any pro or contra brexit stat here.

 

 

As far as I recall both Tories and Labour stated in their manifestos that they would deliver Brexit. Not everyone who voted for these parties candidates was a Remainer.

[Small Joke]

11 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

How can the Brexit party honestly be considered for Government when they only have 1 subject that they've shared any views on (& named their party after).

 

Talk about a 1-trick pony, what about Education, Healthcare, Policing, armed forces, the economy... etc... 

 

Single issue politics is often a very effective way to gain a foothold in chaotic times, when people are frustrated, then worry about the detail later. 

They all lie about most of the other stuff, just to get elected, anyway, surely we're all old enough here to figure that out by now?

[tebee]

For all those calling for a nodeal brexit 

 

Jeremy Hunt warns pursuing no-deal Brexit would be 'suicide' for Tories

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/27/jeremy-hunt-warns-pursuing-no-deal-brexit-would-political-suicide/

[Sticky Wicket]

9 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Probably just a pile of broken records.

Ah the irony

[Sticky Wicket]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

For all those calling for a nodeal brexit 

 

Jeremy Hunt warns pursuing no-deal Brexit would be 'suicide' for Tories

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/27/jeremy-hunt-warns-pursuing-no-deal-brexit-would-political-suicide/

Somebody in the EU must have lots of compromising pictures of him. Disgusting man 

[Laughing Gravy]

7 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

A 21% increase is bloody fantastic and this from a party that wasn't even heard of until 6 weeks ago.

 

 

Yeas I agree and can you remember a few weeks ago many members on here were ridiculing Nigel Farage with his march from the North to London and saying he was a has been and those that followed him have died or changed their belief. How silly and out of touch those members are.

[SheungWan]

13 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Yeas I agree and can you remember a few weeks ago many members on here were ridiculing Nigel Farage with his march from the North to London and saying he was a has been and those that followed him have died or changed their belief. How silly and out of touch those members are.

32% for the Hard Brexit Party. No wonder they don't want a second referendum.

[SheungWan]

9 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Agreed. A no-deal should be the STARTING point in any new negotiation.

For the Hard Brexiteers, the Beginning, the Middle and the Dead End.

[SheungWan]

7 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

A 21% increase is bloody fantastic and this from a party that wasn't even heard of until 6 weeks ago.

One-third. No cigar.