Buying my first condo in Thailand, Russian man put name under Thai GF selling without his Thai GF

[Graviton]

3 minutes ago, KKr said:

Sounds like you know from experience.

So you are Russian then ?

I don't like or trust Tigers, so I must be a Tiger, well it just so happens I am lol????

[gk10002000]

There are thousands of units for sale in Pattaya.  Run away from this situation.  Even if it is somewhat straight up, you don't want to get involved in any personal dispute, past or present.  You have no idea who the Russian is, what his ties may be, what the property was used for, etc.  Who knows what issues may be related to the property that may be lurking.  Go for a cleaner simpler transaction somewhere else

[watcharacters]

18 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

OP, dont pay any huge deposits, if any, make sure there is a clause that you get deposit back if the Russian cannot complete the sale.

 

Be prepared to fly to Russia to get back said deposit money.

 

 

 

[Graviton]

19 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

if true why would he not have the condo in his own name?

Correction to my last if true maybe its a thai quota, but the % must change from 51-49 as resales happen all the time so possible I guess if it keeps the status quo

51-49 to change into foreign ownership.?

[Caine]

The Russian doesn’t owed the property so has no right to sell it. Simple as that, wise up.

[sead]

Is your life really so boring that you want to put yourself in a situation as this. 

[Graviton]

22 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

if true why would he not have the condo in his own name?

Never saw the letter, go to land office, they will help.... 

[khunPer]

22 hours ago, webimpact said:

My questions and concerns are: is this a scam? Can a foreigner sell a condo unit under a Thai person's name? I don't want to buy this unit and a year later his Thai gf comes back thinking she stills own it. Can the Thai gf have a copy of the chanote since it is legally her property under Thai law, even someone else owns / pays it?

Can a foreigner sell...
Yes, if the foreigner has a power of attorney, or like document; but you might need proof of validity in some situations; this could be such a case with verification of the Court letter.

 

Can the Thai gf have a copy...

A photocopy yes, but there should be only one original title deed, apart from the one held by the land department. The name on the title deed is the legal owner, no matter the money flow.

 

Listen to @Crossy's excellent advice in the post above – I would also be that skeptical, that I would look for more safe alternatives – my best advise is, don't but that condo without consulting an experience property solicitor...????

[KhaoYai]

On 5/29/2019 at 10:59 AM, from the home of CC said:

if true why would he not have the condo in his own name?

Probably because he'd have to pay transfer tax.

[KhaoYai]

4 hours ago, Caine said:

The Russian doesn’t owed the property so has no right to sell it. Simple as that, wise up.

Untrue. I don't 'own' my property but I have a signed power of attorney, witnessed at a lawyer's office that gives me the right to sell the property.

 

I have since found out though, that I may need another power of attorney to receive the cash if I did sell it.

Edited May 30, 2019 by KhaoYai

[mike787]

Keep us posted on the purchase...some of us are curious how it will all go "down"

[webimpact]

1 minute ago, mike787 said:

Keep us posted on the purchase...some of us are curious how it will all go "down"

Not buying anymore.

[from the home of CC]

31 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Probably because he'd have to pay transfer tax.

and take the chance he loses all if the relationship goes south, that's beyond stupid..

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:

and take the chance he loses all if the relationship goes south, that's beyond stupid..

No, the Russian claims the court has granted him the ability to sell. I'm just suggesting that he might not want to try to transfer it into his name because he'd have to pay transfer tax which, would need to be paid again when he sells it.

[Delight]

 This is a simple case where a lawyer is required.

The same lawyer will also set up a company. The transfer will be to this company.

Recommend that you use British Law Pattaya. Your first meeting will be free.

This assumes that you seriously want this condo.

[from the home of CC]

19 minutes ago, Delight said:

 This is a simple case where a lawyer is required.

The same lawyer will also set up a company. The transfer will be to this company.

Recommend that you use British Law Pattaya. Your first meeting will be free.

This assumes that you seriously want this condo.

why do you recommend these people?

[tabarin]

There are over 450,000 condo's available for you so don't choose one with dead bodies in the closets.
Same as girls, there is no shortage of anything except common sense. Take your time before buying, rent in the area first.

Edited May 30, 2019 by tabarin

[KittenKong]

3 hours ago, Delight said:

Recommend that you use British Law Pattaya.

I've seen websites saying the opposite.

 

My opinion of lawyers in Thailand is that they are all bad news and that one should stay as far away as possible from them. I find it simplest just to avoid any sort of situation that might possibly result in needing to hire a lawyer. So I avoid things like marriage, forming companies, dodgy real-estate deals, any sort of business venture here, lending/borrowing money etc.

[Delight]

3 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

why do you recommend these people?

This company is owned and managed by a Brit. He was a solicitor in UK.

The only work that he has done for me are my wills

I just have confidence in him.

My strong advice is to use a lawyer.

I would use  this company for certain if I had the problem that the OP is facing.

I would not be happy to use a Thai lawyer.

My message to the OP is to get a lawyer for advice.

The final choice of law firm must be up to him.

Edited May 30, 2019 by Delight

[KittenKong]

Google is your friend.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=british+law+pattaya

 

[from the home of CC]

11 hours ago, Delight said:

This company is owned and managed by a Brit. He was a solicitor in UK.

The only work that he has done for me are my wills

I just have confidence in him.

My strong advice is to use a lawyer.

I would use  this company for certain if I had the problem that the OP is facing.

I would not be happy to use a Thai lawyer.

My message to the OP is to get a lawyer for advice.

The final choice of law firm must be up to him.

just because he's British wouldn't automatically qualify him in my eyes, sleazy lawyers abound in every country in the world..

[Graviton]

11 hours ago, Delight said:

This company is owned and managed by a Brit. He was a solicitor in UK.

The only work that he has done for me are my wills

I just have confidence in him.

My strong advice is to use a lawyer.

I would use  this company for certain if I had the problem that the OP is facing.

I would not be happy to use a Thai lawyer.

My message to the OP is to get a lawyer for advice.

The final choice of law firm must be up to him.

What company is it that has a British lawyer.

[KittenKong]

4 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

just because he's British wouldn't automatically qualify him in my eyes, sleazy lawyers abound in every country in the world..

If you can't trust a British lawyer in Thailand who can you trust?

 

https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/thai-court-orders-arrest-of-fake-scottish-lawyer-1-3282896

 

Maybe a US lawyer?

 

 

[Delight]

On 5/31/2019 at 1:15 PM, Graviton said:

What company is it that has a British lawyer.

 I do not know of any.

British Law ,as I said earlier, is owned and managed by a Brit.

He does not practice law. That would be illegal.

He employs Thai lawyers to do the legal stuff.

However he is highly knowlegeable on Thai law-particularly in the area of real estate and divorce.

I would have no hesitation in using this law company.

Others  will have to make their own determination

[rott]

On 5/30/2019 at 10:07 AM, bkk6060 said:

That and for less.

12,000 properties for sale in the Pattaya area lots of desperation can pick one up now for practically nothing.

I keep hearing this but never heard any concrete examples or heard of anybody buying one supercheap.