UK not paying Brexit bill would be debt default, French source says

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed.  Continued trolling will earn suspensions.  

 

[nauseus]

9 hours ago, bomber said:

some? very few are effected and what are its trivialities,although nontabury did manage to come a cropper due to them he has stated on here,probably FA to do with the EU and more him wanting a moan,in my lifetime ive never personally heard anyone blaming the EU for a business failure,if you are not liking EU regulations you wont like uncle sams either and what uncle sam says will be final.Another point slightly off topic iam sure you are also against foreign ownership of the UK water companies,bus companies,airports etc but have you ever stopped to think why they are buying them? its because they are that cheap due to the weak pound and with your beloved crash out even more will be bought but you cannot see it,all you can spout is short term pain/3 months and we will be just fine,all these companies return the profits to their EU origins,BRILLIANT INNIT?

All UK businesses are affected by EU Law: recent changes in VAT collection and energy regulations and a lot of other red tape have been increasingly costly, especially to small businesses. The US cannot impose any similar restrictions - it is not the EU and we are not subject to US Law!

 

Yes, I am against foreign ownership of critical UK utilities and services. This trend started in the Thatcher era and, unfortunately, has continued. It has little to do with the value of the pound, however.

 

I have no particular desire for a crash. 

 

You seem particularly distressed for someone who says that Brexit will not affect them.

 

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, bomber said:

so you agreed but just wanted to nit pick first.

Well he did pick you! 

[aright]

7 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

I just find it ludicrous that the French now own British water and electric companies! French EDF energy even charge less than British Gas and give better service.

 

Memory does not serve me well, but I recall reading that even London buses were run by the frogs!

 

And now the frogs are telling us what we can or cannot do over Brexit!

 

It's called capitalism. Let's face it we have all benefitted from capitalism and under that system global businesses are available to buy and sell. The British own many businesses and properties abroad. Other systems are available. It might not be too long before we have an opportunity to vote for the Jeremy Corbyn way of established rules as to what business is allowed to do and how the UK should be run.

[Oxx]

8 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

And now the frogs are telling us what we can or cannot do over Brexit!

 

I'm pretty sure it's not frogs (or even toads, newts, salamanders, or any other amphibian) doing that.  So, if you mean French individuals, I'd remind you for forum rule #11

 

"You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards ... Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality"

[billd766]

8 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I didn't agree that the water companies were bought by foreign entities because of the weak pound after the referendum, no. Because it's not true. 

If you call pulling someone up for stating a lie 'nit picking', then that's your choice. 

Just for bombers elucidation here is a link to water companies ownership in the UK. 

 

Bomber is either too lazy or too foolish to research anything he pumps out (no pun intended). That took me less than 5 minutes to find. From this link up to 2013 is given.  

Since this report there does not appear to be any more purchases. bomber may want to take note that all of there purchases were made before Brexit was even heard of.

 

https://www.lovemoney.com/guides/21023/do-you-know-who-really-supplies-your-water

there is more to read.

 

Severn Trent is just one of several utilities companies now under foreign control. This is because utility companies have proved to be a strong investment, as they’re a good way to receive a steady income.

After the UK water industry was privatised in 1989 several new companies were formed and many of these have now been sold off.

In 2006 Thames Water was bought by a consortium which included the Australian investment group Macquarie and a Chinese wealth fund.

Yorkshire Water, which now supplies 4.7 million people, was snapped up in 2007 by another consortium, this time made up of Citigroup, HSBC, and the Singaporean sovereign wealth fund GIC.

Northumbria Water was also bought in 2011 by the Hong Kong-based company Cheung Kong Infrastructure Holdings.

[bomber]

5 hours ago, transam said:

Any member that resides in Isaan takes your "hit", and to top it all you have now stated you have never been up country yet you have a lot to say about it, all derogatory stuff....

I hope you did your own "personal" research on your new venture in Portugal to avoid unwanted flack......????

flack ???? yet another reference WW2,get over it man Bonking Boris is coming to save the UK ????

[transam]

1 minute ago, bomber said:

flack ???? yet another reference WW2,get over it man Bonking Boris is coming to save the UK ????

No ref. to WW2, it was a ref. to a Bomber....????

[jonwilly]

The only thing the EU ever wanted from Britain was money.

Money to finance their dream of a Socialist Europe and keep Germany from France's throat.

They never wanted British Culture or Legal system, mind you the Brit Military would have been a welcome aid for them.

Just money.

Germany and France organized the system so they could claim back large amounts from the Agricultural fund for their inefficient farmers, while UK's farmers could never claim such large amounts.

Maggie got her refund on the basis of the Common Agricultural Policy and the Blur gave half of it away on the understanding that France would reform it's farming, of course they never did or will do.

May made a bad deal. she should have told them hat under their Rules/law they were entitled to nothing and if UK was to kindly offer money then it would be on the understanding they the EU did all it could to assist a Clean break and withdraw.

 

john

 

[bomber]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

All UK businesses are affected by EU Law: recent changes in VAT collection and energy regulations and a lot of other red tape have been increasingly costly, especially to small businesses. The US cannot impose any similar restrictions - it is not the EU and we are not subject to US Law!

 

Yes, I am against foreign ownership of critical UK utilities and services. This trend started in the Thatcher era and, unfortunately, has continued. It has little to do with the value of the pound, however.

 

I have no particular desire for a crash. 

 

You seem particularly distressed for someone who says that Brexit will not affect them.

 

All businesses are affected by UK law also,i would very much doubt very small businesses are affected and what little the bigger ones are it will be very minimal in proportion,if you want to see how a very small business is affected look at the landlord laws and bare in mind 1 in 10 now own a second home,the UK govt now pays housing benefit straight into the tennants bank accounts and they then have to try and get it from them,lots just squander it in true british style,another even barmier law thats going through parliament is a landlord cannot ask a tennant the nationality as it affects their human rights,<deleted> is that all about,and this is UK law nowt to do with the EU,if you think after brexit (which isnt going to happen anyway) the UK is going to be the some utopia your in for a shock,and if you think UK assets would stop being sold after brexit you are in for yet another shock

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

All businesses are affected by UK law also,i would very much doubt very small businesses are affected and what little the bigger ones are it will be very minimal in proportion,if you want to see how a very small business is affected look at the landlord laws and bare in mind 1 in 10 now own a second home,the UK govt now pays housing benefit straight into the tennants bank accounts and they then have to try and get it from them,lots just squander it in true british style,another even barmier law thats going through parliament is a landlord cannot ask a tennant the nationality as it affects their human rights,<deleted> is that all about,and this is UK law nowt to do with the EU,if you think after brexit (which isnt going to happen anyway) the UK is going to be the some utopia your in for a shock,and if you think UK assets would stop being sold after brexit you are in for yet another shock

Well done. You've drifted off completely and away to another void. On the raz in Spoonies last night? 

[overherebc]

On 6/10/2019 at 7:31 AM, malagateddy said:

A new hardline negociating Brexit team would easily slash the 39 big ones down to a far more reasonable realistic price.
Remember..nothing has been signed to my knowledge..it's only a provisional costing right now as far as I'm aware.

Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Start with an offer of a fiver a week and two packets of Woodbine then negotiate from there.

[bomber]

28 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Well done. You've drifted off completely and away to another void. On the raz in Spoonies last night? 

Nope,drink isnt important to me,will sample a few today tho, the turkeys down the local will be returning from thier jollies moaning about the eu not been cheap these days.they cannot wait fir brexit..ha ha

[bomber]

11 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Start with an offer of a fiver a week and two packets of Woodbine then negotiate from there.

We just finished paying back uncle sam recently for 1939 to 1945,but i think Boris and Farage could strike an even better deal than that,hows about a 10 bob a week and 1 packet of woodbines over 120 years.now that would sail through parliament,even bercow would approve.

[bomber]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Just for bombers elucidation here is a link to water companies ownership in the UK. 

 

Bomber is either too lazy or too foolish to research anything he pumps out (no pun intended). That took me less than 5 minutes to find. From this link up to 2013 is given.  

Since this report there does not appear to be any more purchases. bomber may want to take note that all of there purchases were made before Brexit was even heard of.

 

https://www.lovemoney.com/guides/21023/do-you-know-who-really-supplies-your-water

there is more to read.

 

Severn Trent is just one of several utilities companies now under foreign control. This is because utility companies have proved to be a strong investment, as they’re a good way to receive a steady income.

After the UK water industry was privatised in 1989 several new companies were formed and many of these have now been sold off.

In 2006 Thames Water was bought by a consortium which included the Australian investment group Macquarie and a Chinese wealth fund.

Yorkshire Water, which now supplies 4.7 million people, was snapped up in 2007 by another consortium, this time made up of Citigroup, HSBC, and the Singaporean sovereign wealth fund GIC.

Northumbria Water was also bought in 2011 by the Hong Kong-based company Cheung Kong Infrastructure Holdings.

Bomber never stated they were bought before brexit,i was well aware of that fact, my point was and this is about the 4th time ive had to state it is with a battered pound these overseas folks will be eyeing up even more of he UKs assetts,so please read more carefully in the future.

[Bullie]

On 6/10/2019 at 2:16 PM, puipuitom said:

You forget the British voting system:

First, you divide the country over 651 constituencies as.. "each baron want to be heard at the crown.."

Then, in each "village" ONLY the one with the most votes gets everything, all others nothing..  Imagine 5 parties, but the biggest 20,1% of the votes.. 

Then.. 326 of the seats and.. with just 10% of the voters, you have the full government. ( And the members of the House of Lords are appointed, very "democrately")

 

In a normal democracy the majority fore sure takes the wishes of the minority in their evaluation.

Except that normally they don't. They don't in the U.S., and of recent years they also don't in Europe. Ever heard of the phrase: Cordon Sanitaire?

[CG1 Blue]

12 hours ago, bomber said:

correct,then the turkeys voted him out months after victory,the same northern monkeys who gave us brexit,and the grandsons and great grand sons of the miners who went on strike during the blitz,oh yes great patriotic folks those northern monkeys.???? 

So you also have a problem with Northerners? 

The Portuguese people are in for a treat when you arrive ????

[bomber]

58 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So you also have a problem with Northerners? 

The Portuguese people are in for a treat when you arrive ????

iam a northern so i know what iam talking about,Portuguese folks wont be interested in the north/south issue's in the UK,same same your issan/thai neighbours,or your muslim neighbours if your living in londonstan ????

[bomber]

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Yes, I am against foreign ownership of critical UK utilities and services. This trend started in the Thatcher era and, unfortunately, has continued. It has little to do with the value of the pound.

 

 

 

so are you looking forward to Farage and Trump carving up the NHS,and btw dont call it project fear or fake news Trump HAS already got his eyes on it.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, bomber said:

so are you looking forward to Farage and Trump carving up the NHS,and btw dont call it project fear or fake news Trump HAS already got his eyes on it.

Fake news then.

[bomber]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Fake news then.

real news,not what you like to hear but thats normal.Trump quite a bit of damage on his recent visit to the brexit cause as just about everything he came out with was trash,even boris avoided him.

[Loiner]

3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Start with an offer of a fiver a week and two packets of Woodbine then negotiate from there.

As far as the Merkel/May Surrender Treaty goes, we shouldn't even start with an offer. A simple "Non" or more exotic "Nyet" is ample.

 

Kick their WAG out of the park and go straight to Trading Terms.

[nauseus]

27 minutes ago, bomber said:

real news,not what you like to hear but thats normal.Trump quite a bit of damage on his recent visit to the brexit cause as just about everything he came out with was trash,even boris avoided him.

Rubbish. The NHS needs reforming but it will not be bartered away.  

[overherebc]

It'll be alright on the night.

[bomber]

19 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Rubbish. The NHS needs reforming but it will not be bartered away.  

it could do with £350 million a week????  pity bonking brexiteer boris has the money set aside for his eton cronies and JRM ????     CHEERS BIG RED BUS

[bomber]

13 minutes ago, overherebc said:

It'll be alright on the night.

Is that the same night in 3 months time when the quid buys 50bt,and the EU has imploded.

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

Is that the same night in 3 months time when the quid buys 50bt,and the EU has imploded.

Absolutely no idea.

I leave ideas on that to all the political experts on TV who obviously believe their ideas and gum bumping on here is going to have the slightest effect on what will be the eventual outcome of the whole affair.

I have my own priorities and how brexit or no brexit will affect them I have also no idea.

Who in their right mind believes a politician anywhere in the world?

They don't give a sh-t about me and I don't give a sh-t about them.

Don't vote for any of them, it only encourages them.

Imagine if they had an election and nobody voted

 

[bomber]

14 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Absolutely no idea.

I leave ideas on that to all the political experts on TV who obviously believe their ideas and gum bumping on here is going to have the slightest effect on what will be the eventual outcome of the whole affair.

I have my own priorities and how brexit or no brexit will affect them I have also no idea.

Who in their right mind believes a politician anywhere in the world?

They don't give a sh-t about me and I don't give a sh-t about them.

Don't vote for any of them, it only encourages them.

Imagine if they had an election and nobody voted

 

But nigel and boris are different.

[overherebc]

19 minutes ago, bomber said:

But nigel and boris are different.

Something to do with the hairstyles I reckon.

Or sartorial elegance. Maybe if Mrs May had stopped wearing those short jacket trouser suits we might have got a really good deal.

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Something to do with the hairstyles I reckon.

Or sartorial elegance. Maybe if Mrs May had stopped wearing those short jacket trouser suits we might have got a really good deal.

Or those crappy ball and chain link necklaces with the trackers in that were probably gifts from Brussels!