At 70 years old I’m looking for the antidote – Do you have it?

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

i always feel bad as well when you tell of your misfortune.   I admit I am curious.... but if you ever decide to give details of your experiences here on TV it might elicit some compassionate thoughts from other members.  Of course,  you must be willing to face the trolls as well   ????

Please don't feel bad because of me. I had an amazing life, and did amazing things that few of the people I knew will ever do.

I could have died many, many times in horrible ways, but lived a more or less normal life till I got prostate cancer, and it's been a very slow downward spiral since.

Which is not to say I haven't had good times even without a prostate, though that made fundamental and unwanted changes in my life.

Where I have always gone wrong is thinking that someone else could make me happy- hence getting married to the apparent girl of my dreams. Rule number one- other people don't make us happy; only we make ourselves happy.

I feel sad now, most of the time, because most of my heroes are dead or dying, my marriage didn't work out and I find myself alone at the end of my life. Plus, the world I grew up in has vanished utterly, to be replaced by greed and venal people that exploit us while pretending to be our benefactors. The machine has ruined humanity, IMO, and many people are selfish, spoilt and inconsiderate.

What is sad, is that the country I loved and wanted to die in has become out of my reach because I was stupid and got married.

I said before I had an amazing life, but sadly, I don't remember much of it anymore- old age is cruel.

I could go on, but as you say, the trolls, the trolls.

[rumak]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I said before I had an amazing life, but sadly, I don't remember much of it anymore- old age is cruel.

thanks for sharing ( and keeping it 50 words or less   hahaha ).   gotta keep laughing, ya know  ????

I feel many of the same things about "the shape of the world" that you do.   Many of us here are reaching that "old age" phase ,  some lucky, some not, but we all should know things can change any time.

I often think why do I ever bother with this forum,  but it is entertaining and even informative once in a while.   And for you it is a place to vent, joke, or whatever.   I won't feel sad for you,  but do empathize and wish you well.

[BobBKK]

8 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

I retired to Thailand at 52 and would probably be dead if I had continued my employment into my 60's. Certainly a heart attack contender.

 

Pretty much stress free living in Thailand (and a bit in Europe) and I agree about never/rarely being bored.

I went at 50 as I decided around 47 I was 'getting out'. I'd rather live on a reduced income and be happy than get that heart attack. I do get bored sometimes as I live in a rural setting and I plan to buy a condo in the city for weekends. 

[BobBKK]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Good, sound advice. Grow thicker skin! That is key to alot of woes that seem to affect the masses these days. Such sensitivity. Such soft, easily offended, PC type people out there, who are simply not comfortable within their own skins, and it manifests itself with the desire to pick a fight with anyone and everyone, for the silliest of reasons. Get over yourselves. Get out of your own way. There is alot to be enjoyed in life, and the focus on the negative prevents alot of that fulfillment from taking place.

 

Of course, I am guilty of complaining. But, I try not to make it personal, and try to not take it personally. It is more of an observational sort of thing. 

 

For many of us who are getting up there in years, it is strange to see people croaking and buying the farm all around us. Some at rather young ages. I am philosophical about it. When the Grim Reaper is ready for us, there is not much we can do. I do not allow my mind to fret over it. It is what it is. Reading philosophy and meditating seems to really help too. It is all about perspective. 

 

There are alot of things we can do to improve our well being. Eating well, exercising, maintaining a good attitude, maintaining some perspective on our lives, not getting too emotional about stuff we have no control over, pursuing your passions, and loving those around you. Also, for those over 60, I highly recommend a nutritional formula called Green Vibrance. It is the equivalent of 22nd century vitamins and minerals. I need less sleep, have more energy, a stronger libido, and better memory with it. It seems to be food for the brain. Which we need as we get older. It does have to be imported from abroad, but I believe it is available through iherb.

Where do you get Green Vibrance?  ship it in?  PM if you dont want to discuss here... thanks

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Where I have always gone wrong is thinking that someone else could make me happy

I surely don't rely on other people to make me happy, but I have found that being around happy people in general makes me happier... which is part of the reason I enjoy living here.. I find Thai people to be much happier than folks in the Western World... I like the non-confrontational ways and find that my marriage might not be perfect but that we don't bicker and fight and being part of a big functional family that tries to keep life pleasant is a very nice existence... and that makes me happy.. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, rumak said:

thanks for sharing ( and keeping it 50 words or less   hahaha ).   gotta keep laughing, ya know  ????

I feel many of the same things about "the shape of the world" that you do.   Many of us here are reaching that "old age" phase ,  some lucky, some not, but we all should know things can change any time.

I often think why do I ever bother with this forum,  but it is entertaining and even informative once in a while.   And for you it is a place to vent, joke, or whatever.   I won't feel sad for you,  but do empathize and wish you well.

Thank you.

TVF has become the only place I get to have conversations with people about things I care about. In the real world here, people don't talk about such things. I think it's because most are just caught up in their own little worlds and not interested in such.

 

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

Where do you get Green Vibrance?  ship it in?  PM if you dont want to discuss here... thanks

He already said iHerb. Just order it through them and they will post it here. https://www.iherb.com/pr/Vibrant-Health-Green-Vibrance-25-Billion-Probiotics-Version-18-0-5-82-oz-165-g/29436

Edited July 1, 2019 by giddyup

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Where do you get Green Vibrance?  ship it in?  PM if you dont want to discuss here... thanks

No problem. I carry it back from the US. But, I have friends who order it from iherb, as they seem to have inexpensive shipping to Thailand. 

[Scott]

Inflammatory posts and replies removed.   Keep it civil.

[namatjira]

Death is the only antidote

[giddyup]

At 77 I wasn't worrying about my impending demise until I read this post, now you've got me depressed.

[luk AJ]

The most important moment is now!


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[BobBKK]

20 hours ago, giddyup said:

He already said iHerb. Just order it through them and they will post it here. https://www.iherb.com/pr/Vibrant-Health-Green-Vibrance-25-Billion-Probiotics-Version-18-0-5-82-oz-165-g/29436

I know he said Iherb but wondered if he'd found a more local source. Often I have found stuff on Lazada - this is not on there but Im searching for an alternative that does the same job rather than import with all the costs. 

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I know he said Iherb but wondered if he'd found a more local source. Often I have found stuff on Lazada - this is not on there but Im searching for an alternative that does the same job rather than import with all the costs. 

Only costs besides the item itself would be around $5 postage.

[BobBKK]

Just now, giddyup said:

Only costs besides the item itself would be around $5 postage.

I have had stuff seized at Customs here, Tumeric in fact. I do import some things but if I can buy it , or equivalent here, it makes sense to do so. Often the Thai market has similar products but thank you for your intense interest and replying on his behalf.

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by BobBKK

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I have had stuff seized at Customs here, Tumeric in fact. I do import some things but if I can buy it , or equivalent here, it makes sense to do so. Often the Thai market has similar products but thank you for your intense interest and replying on his behalf.

 

Well, I'll leave it to you to find your own source. I might add that I have been buying from iHerb for years and never had Customs seize anything yet.

[GarryP]

57 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Well, I'll leave it to you to find your own source. I might add that I have been buying from iHerb for years and never had Customs seize anything yet.

I've never had a problem with them either. Having said that, it will be just my luck that my next order will be stopped. 

[Whip Me Granny]

On 6/26/2019 at 3:44 PM, lagavulin1 said:

You seem to be generating your own downward spiral. Might be time to visit the docs just to chat around with an expert. I was similar to you and also bipolar. Made my wife's life hell. 

Sorted out now. Nice young Psychiatrist dragged me back and I'm happy now. I have tablets but none of these opoids or addictive shit. Tablets are Serotonin reabsorption inhibitors. Keeps the happy hormone up. 

Give it some thought but good luck. 

Regards P. 

 

Thanks for the suggestion 

[Whip Me Granny]

On 6/26/2019 at 4:07 PM, anterian said:

until I was 75 I was physically very active, swimming, cycling, badminton and sex. Now at 83 that phase has ended, what keeps me going is curiosity, whats going to happen next? Like Thailand the world is in a mess and for me sitting at my computer it has become an enthralling docudrama.  

Its the whats going to happen next that keeps me up at night ????

[Whip Me Granny]

On 6/26/2019 at 4:24 PM, DILLIGAD said:

My Grand dad married a 3rd time at 95 and saw all 3 wives off. The wedding was on (UK) national TV. Popped his clogs at 98 but he never had the frustration of ‘Thainess’ to cope with!


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Ah the frustration of Thainess , now there's another topic worth doing ????

[Whip Me Granny]

On 6/26/2019 at 4:39 PM, potless said:

It could be that you are grieving for the loss of your friends? Not always easy to admit to.                            Regarding marijuana, I used to find that it enhanced whatever mood I was in. Great when good, worse when not good. Anti depressants are a last resort, bear in mind that many people feel worse before they feel better. Pack a case and visit somewhere you've never been. Refresh your mind. Good luck.          

I did have a close friend , a long time exercise freak and some one who always had a sunny disposition . He never really seemed even at 64 concerned like I am about departing this world. He not long ago had a sudden heart attack while out riding his bike and passed away ☹️

[Whip Me Granny]

On 6/26/2019 at 4:49 PM, phantomfiddler said:

Frequent intelligent and constructive conversations with honest and constructive peers is a very necessary thing to do. I am way over your age and feel no highly negative thoughts such as yours. The Japanese have a very good saying "Look after the old bod and everything else will take care of itself". Above all, stay active, and think about all the other people who are in a much worse situation. Good luck ????

I find it difficult to find honest and constructive any one where I live ☹️

[JHolmesJr]

Read the OP's post and my take is:

 

When you get to that stage or state of mind, throw yourself fully

into helping others. 

 

When you divert your attention to the problems others face, yours will soon dwindle into

nothingness.

[potless]

23 minutes ago, Whip Me Granny said:

I did have a close friend , a long time exercise freak and some one who always had a sunny disposition . He never really seemed even at 64 concerned like I am about departing this world. He not long ago had a sudden heart attack while out riding his bike and passed away ☹️

Little wonder you feel vulnerable. It can deter you from getting close to someone else in case something similar happens. A mate of mine some 40 years ago died unexpectedly at the age of 20. I still remember him and sometimes when I do something I say "I'm doing this for you old friend as well as myself because you cant do it". The book of life is the sum of the chapters. Start a new chapter.

Edited July 3, 2019 by potless

[emptypockets]

On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2019 at 3:26 AM, Jip99 said:

 

I retired to Thailand at 52 and would probably be dead if I had continued my employment into my 60's. Certainly a heart attack contender.

 

Pretty much stress free living in Thailand (and a bit in Europe) and I agree about never/rarely being bored.

I turned 63 a couple of months ago. I thrive with my work. To see the spark of understanding in 20-25 year old's eyes and see them develop in ways I did not expect just keeps me going like a drug. I know I need to stop, and can afford to easily, but I don't want to. I love it. Being a foreigner in their country adds to the buzz.

[Acharn]

When I was 18 I was in the Air Force, and stationed on the island Phang Yang Do, which sits right on the 38th Parallel. The truce line takes a sharp bend north at the coast to include the island in South Korea. One night we had a report that a North Korean ship was sighted on radar approaching the island and it was possible the North Koreans were attacking. There was panic, arms were issued and it was discovered we didn't have weapons (the M2 carbine) for everybody. I was terrified. Since then I have been aware that I might die anytime and I've just learned to accept it. As a (warrior) character in a Thai movie put it, "I'm not afraid of dying, but I'm afraid of pain." Since there's nothing I can do about it I just try not to worry about it.

ETA: Sounds like you're doing about what I do. Exercise is important. 

Edited July 4, 2019 by Acharn

[Almer]

C'mon men cheer up i was having a good day, from a 69/70 year old who got many things on my wish list yet to criss off

[Tomahawk21]

On 6/28/2019 at 2:32 PM, RichardColeman said:

I am 55, my wife is 41. When we lived in one of the gated villages in Pattaya, my neighbour was 72 and his wife 39. Maybe I got the bum deal on that one ! Comes to something when you wife is older than the next 72 year olds

i think 55 and 41 is OK at least you properly have a good time together i know i do with my girl. i dated much younger girls in the past after the sex nothing in common and almost boring with them.

[luk AJ]

i think 55 and 41 is OK at least you properly have a good time together i know i do with my girl. i dated much younger girls in the past after the sex nothing in common and almost boring with them.

Unfortunately I don’t see the relation between age and wisdom in Thailand..


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[Tomahawk21]

1 hour ago, luk AJ said:

Unfortunately I don’t see the relation between age and wisdom in Thailand..


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agreed but you dont have to have wisdom to enjoy each other company and a laugh. i bet your great fun to be stuck in a lift with.