nauseus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jack100 said: When the Obama left office the debt was 16$ trillion. I wonder what caused the other $8 trillion increase in the last 3 years ? Must be all those new roads , bridge repairs and other improvements . No. It was already close to 20 trillion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 ' When we announced the Brexit (?) ( in January 2016) everyone said the pound would go down,,,it went up hahah " Nigel Farage May 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 The high season will go on as it does every year but the Brits won't be there.Well at least one more wont,a friend of ours just cancelled because the baht was so high,lost his depositSent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, Angry Dragon said: I would say it's not comfortable territory, but still affordable and in line with many other OECD countries (UK in particular). It's the debts of Greece (150% of GDP), Italy (150% of GDP) and especially Japan (250% of GDP) that are worrying I wouldn’t be too worry about Japan as most debts are domestic and denominated in yen and therefore not vulnerable to dollar fluctuation and also can be re-structure internally. It is the Greece and Italy foreign denominated debts that are worrisome. If their currency not strong enough, they get double whammy of more debts in their own currency and higher import costs. Ditto UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jack100 said: ' When we announced the Brexit (?) ( in January 2016) everyone said the pound would go down,,,it went up hahah " Nigel Farage May 2016. I think the quote should have been “ah ha” ... like Alan Partridge. Take a look at how GBP has performed since January 2016 ... has it soared? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 12:29 PM, khastan said: You are all lucky! My UK pension has gone down from over 34000 baht before brexit to now today 26000 baht and from April 6th next year if the exchange rate continues to fall I will be lucky to get 17000 baht a month. So what are you living off...savings, investment/rental income--I'm guessing you've got money in a Thai bank to secure your annual extensions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Angry Dragon said: aren't all the world's main currencies fiat currencies ("backed by nothing")? If that's the case, then what will the US$ crash against? The pound, yen and euro are all propped up by nothing but fresh air as well. There will be a world digital currency backed by many central banks, not just the US. The US$ as the world's reserve currency will end. I am not talking Bitcoin. Something far more advanced than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 5:13 PM, Angry Dragon said: Not really. By some measures (the big mac index) the Baht is still 30% undervalued against the USD. Tourists still get a decent value for their money, even if it's less of a value than before. What does the Whoppa and fries index say? ???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
503726 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 9:49 AM, britishrepublican said: As a currency trader, I expect the pound to fall dramatically in the 2-3 days after the 31st. Once the initial panic passes I expect common sense to prevail and the pound will recover to pre referendum rates within a year. 56-58 baht. It's worth the short term pain in the long run. I like your point about market jitters. There must an opportunity for anyone holding Baht or other currency to be ready to buy GBP if or when the market has a panic to pick up the bounce. I guess the smart money will stay longer for the recovery, though I expect that will much longer than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 What the cost of new friends in Pattaya is too high? He did not lose his deposit with us ,but through an agent he was going to rent throughSent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbun Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 hours ago, tracy3eyes said: Ouch!!! What a sensitive soul! Have a nice day. Yes I agree. My computer is getting wet by all the sobbing fellows on the other end. Advice: Save more money , do some overtime, work harder and you can come to Thailand to play.Easy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fabman5 Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) On 7/30/2019 at 12:50 PM, Longbow212 said: No hate friend, and your points are valid if one isn’t preparing for the future you describe. Thailand for all its faults is making progress and Asia is the place to be for the younger generation. It would be a pleasant surprise to see the exodus of the negative, cynical, chastising characters that try to attack too many members and give this forum a bad reputation. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I haven't met many working class or poor Thais who think the country is progressing.. Most of them have even less money these days and those that rely on the tourist industry are going to suffer more. It's generally only the 1-2 % rich that are doing well and are sticking 2 fingers up at the rest of the people living here Edited July 31, 2019 by fabman5 Misspelled 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fdbob Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 11:39 AM, shackleton said: I have already mentioned before about Brexit not going to be a good thing for the UK especially the exchange rate for expats here ( Pensions ect ) in Thailand and else where The people of the UK voted to come out of the EU Boris has promised to get us out by the 31st October with a deal or no deal expect worse for the pound sterling in the near future Bullshit the strong Thai baht has nothing to do with brexit 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: I call ‘em as I see ‘em, Marcus. Have watched my currency sink for nigh on 2 years—and it’s not pretty. Not a cheap Charlie. Have invested millions in this 3rd world country—only to see hot money intoxication at Bank of Thailand—taking all western currencies down. You said because of trade deals Thailand was a Chinese colony which the trade figures for 2019 clearly show it is not, Thailand trading partners 2019. China 11.9%. America 11.7%. Japan 9.9%. You said you call's em as I see em but obviously have not been looking at any facts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, fdbob said: Bullshit the strong Thai baht has nothing to do with brexit The pound has been going down against all currencies since Brexit vote and the baht is one of those currencies. Nothing to do with Thailand it's due to UK fiscal mismanagement. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, fabman5 said: I haven't met many working class or poor Thais who think the country is progressing.. Most of them have even less money these days and those that rely on the tourist industry are going to suffer more. It's generally only the 1-2 % rich that are doing well and are sticking 2 fingers up at the rest of the people living here Average wage among the 8 million people in Bangkok is 25,500. Thailand is an industrial economy. It the poor people want a job they must move to an industrial center. Many jobs available. https://checkinprice.com/average-minimum-salary-in-bangkok-thailand/ Edited August 1, 2019 by marcusarelus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 4:16 PM, Snow Leopard said: You are talking a handful of people. Not a nation. and their armies and followers. A few years ago I read about genetic testing that was done throughout England and wales and compared to similar testing done on the continent, The people of England had more genetic closeness to Germans (almost indiscernible) than to the Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, marcusarelus said: Average wage among the 8 million people in Bangkok is 25,500. Thailand is an industrial economy. It the poor people want a job they must move to an industrial center. Many jobs available. https://checkinprice.com/average-minimum-salary-in-bangkok-thailand/ What absolute nonsense “Thailand is an industrial economy” … how did you manage to make that up. Thailand is an agricultural economy, almost every consumer product you can buy here is either made in Japan / China / Korea etc, or like many of the Japanese cars, assembled here. Thailand has practically no manufacturing industries, and you then expect the 60 odd million Thais that don’t live in Bangkok to move there for a job, when a large percentage are farm workers with limited education. The Thai economy is based on farming and tourism, to call it industrial is preposterous and shows a complete lack of knowledge about this country. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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richiejom Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 When this 3 years of dithering is finally over (thanks to the wicked witch of the west) and the pound rises again a silver lining could be all the extra things we've done to maximize of spending power will mean even more returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Come on Boris, I have a wife and 2 cats to feed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) The Australian dollar finally cracked 20 today and the Euro cracked 33 today ...The Pound is just a quarter point away from cracking 36.... The Dollar seems to weak but holding firm.... Edited August 1, 2019 by fforest1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiejom Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, fforest1 said: The Dollar seems to weak but holding firm.... How are expats with $ holding up over the last few years, have they seen many drastic ups and downs with their baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Almer Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 A Thai friend joked with me the other day and said the Gbp and Brexit was my problem, i explained most politely that if he were to ask me for another loan he would find my reduced pension was now also his problem, it all went a bit quiet. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RabCNesbitt Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 After all of the lies, mis-information and total mis-management by successive Conservative governments who are only interested in lining their own pockets, and the clarity now of what Brexit ACTUALLY means and the hell-bent attitude of the current PM in wanting to leave the EU....... why can't there be a referendum to see if the people of the UK still believe in this lunacy? The original vote was 48% to 52% to leave - that is hardly a convincing margin back then when NOBODY knew the what Brexit meant and were fed a total bunch of lies. They should stop this nonsense now, give the British people another vote and THEN see if they still want Brexit - only this time the British people will be much more aware of the outcome and have full knowledge of the fact that we could be leaving with 'no deal', damaging business and trade for many years to come. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamJar Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, RabCNesbitt said: After all of the lies, mis-information and total mis-management by successive Conservative governments who are only interested in lining their own pockets, and the clarity now of what Brexit ACTUALLY means and the hell-bent attitude of the current PM in wanting to leave the EU....... why can't there be a referendum to see if the people of the UK still believe in this lunacy? The original vote was 48% to 52% to leave - that is hardly a convincing margin back then when NOBODY knew the what Brexit meant and were fed a total bunch of lies. They should stop this nonsense now, give the British people another vote and THEN see if they still want Brexit - only this time the British people will be much more aware of the outcome and have full knowledge of the fact that we could be leaving with 'no deal', damaging business and trade for many years to come. It's brinkmanship. He has to call their bluff. But at the same time he has to be prepared for if they don't blink. He most definitely wants to stay within the Customs Union for years to come. No one really wants all of that disruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eloquent pilgrim Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RabCNesbitt said: After all of the lies, mis-information and total mis-management by successive Conservative governments who are only interested in lining their own pockets, and the clarity now of what Brexit ACTUALLY means and the hell-bent attitude of the current PM in wanting to leave the EU....... why can't there be a referendum to see if the people of the UK still believe in this lunacy? The original vote was 48% to 52% to leave - that is hardly a convincing margin back then when NOBODY knew the what Brexit meant and were fed a total bunch of lies. They should stop this nonsense now, give the British people another vote and THEN see if they still want Brexit - only this time the British people will be much more aware of the outcome and have full knowledge of the fact that we could be leaving with 'no deal', damaging business and trade for many years to come. I notice that (some) people that voted to remain in the European Federal State, are now wetting their pants and reaching for their teddy, because after three years of palavering and thinly disguised attempts to derail the process, the UK now has a Prime Minister with a steadfast resolve to deliver what the people of the UK voted for. Democracy must be a nightmare when you disagree with either the results it gives, or indeed, the very principle of it; maybe best of five would be more up your Strasse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Snow Leopard said: There will be a world digital currency backed by many central banks, not just the US. The US$ as the world's reserve currency will end. I am not talking Bitcoin. Something far more advanced than that. You mean is Littlebitcoin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 11 hours ago, fforest1 said: The Australian dollar finally cracked 20 today and the Euro cracked 33 today ...The Pound is just a quarter point away from cracking 36.... The Dollar seems to weak but holding firm.... AUD$ is 21.7 - never broke 20 Euro is 34.13 - never broke 33 XE.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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