Thoughts on "will there be a Real High Season" this year?

[madmen]

26 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Pattaya has become like many British seaside towns

I think you're ignoring the elephant in the room. Pattaya provides " extras" Like nowhere Else on planet earth. 

[Ron jeremy]

9 minutes ago, madmen said:

I think you're ignoring the elephant in the room. Pattaya provides " extras" Like nowhere Else on planet earth. 

Sad sad comment, another sex tourist. That's why the place is what it is , get a life.

and when someone is describing another destination, then a poster asks, but how much is short time there?

thats why the Thais don't want you there.

[madmen]

2 minutes ago, Ron jeremy said:

Sad sad comment, another sex tourist. That's why the place is what it is , get a life.

and when someone is describing another destination, then a poster asks, but how much is short time there?

thats why the Thais don't want you there.

wow how bizarre coming from a poster naming him self after a famous porn star. Pattaya is the sex capital of the universe and all the galaxies brother

[KittenKong]

8 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

yes there will be a high season. but not for so much for business that cater to western tourists. that is over.

Hua Hin is very busy right now.

I wonder who is it busy with if there are no western tourists? Cant say I have noticed many Indians or Arabs or Chinese when I have been there.

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, Ron jeremy said:

Sad sad comment, another sex tourist.

i am not sad. i am happy. very happy all the time.

[NCC1701A]

57 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

I wonder who is it busy with if there are no western tourists? Cant say I have noticed many Indians or Arabs or Chinese when I have been there.

next time go to bluport mall and just sit there for a few hours.

can you tell the difference between Chinese and Thais? sometimes they are hard to spot.

go to gourmet market in the middle of the day and buy something and look around you in the check out line. almost all Chinese.

 

[Destiny1990]

No this place has lost its momentum.

Even the bar girls went back to isarn.

[Destiny1990]

14 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

next time go to bluport mall and just sit there for a few hours.

can you tell the difference between Chinese and Thais? sometimes they are hard to spot.

go to gourmet market in the middle of the day and buy something and look around you in the check out line. almost all Chinese.

 

Easy the chinese have a guide walking infront with a flagpole in hand.

Anyway  most aren’t Chinese just ordinary Thais.

[Destiny1990]

1 hour ago, KittenKong said:

I wonder who is it busy with if there are no western tourists? Cant say I have noticed many Indians or Arabs or Chinese when I have been there.

Ask taxidrivers ask developers ask restaurant staff ask hotel staff..

Ask how their business is and overall happiness!

[NCC1701A]

2 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Easy the chinese have a guide walking infront with a flagpole in hand.

Anyway  most aren’t Chinese just ordinary Thais.

have you been to hua hin? we don't have the flag types here. and believe me all the Asian people around me in line are Chinese. 

they have a ton of money and are speaking Chinese and don't look anything like Thais.

[elliss]

10 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

yes there will be a high season. but not for so much for business that cater to western tourists. that is over. 

 

Hua Hin is very busy right now.

 

 

      Fyi ,  Hua Hin attracts wealthy japanese tourists ,   not western tourists .  Just in ....time ..

 

[NCC1701A]

6 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

      Fyi ,  Hua Hin attracts wealthy japanese tourists ,   not western tourists .  Just in ....time ..

 

yes that is what i have been saying all along. Chinese. and yes some Japanese but tons of Chinese now.

 

[NCC1701A]

11 hours ago, joeyg said:

I think the Global economic/recession/depression will usher in an even far worse "high season"  than the one that didn't happen last year.  

 

Any thoughts?

don't forget about world war III. It is going to start soon. The Chinese and Russians will be invading Thailand and any Americans like us will be killed out right. 

 

[Destiny1990]

24 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

have you been to hua hin? we don't have the flag types here. and believe me all the Asian people around me in line are Chinese. 

they have a ton of money and are speaking Chinese and don't look anything like Thais.

Ask any Hua hin taxi ,restaurant, hotel, condo developer owner how their business is compared with 3 years ago!

Its dead and hardly anyone profits these Chinese group tours

[Destiny1990]

19 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

      Fyi ,  Hua Hin attracts wealthy japanese tourists ,   not western tourists .  Just in ....time ..

 

Hua hin used to be full with farang golf players i guess they have already left a while ago.

[Traubert]

50 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

have you been to hua hin? we don't have the flag types here. and believe me all the Asian people around me in line are Chinese. 

they have a ton of money and are speaking Chinese and don't look anything like Thais.

Hua Hin is all over the Chinese tourist industry promos this year, and by no means the lower end. Whoever is running Hua Hin tourism bureau is doing a fine job. He's/she's getting repeat visitors who have never thought of the place before but have seen BKK, PTT etc.

26 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Ask any Hua hin taxi ,restaurant, hotel, condo developer owner how their business is compared with 3 years ago!

Its dead and hardly anyone profits these Chinese group tours

You are six years behind the times. The tour groups are in Bangkok high end malls buying anything that doesn't move and some that does.

[KittenKong]

5 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

next time go to bluport mall and just sit there for a few hours.

can you tell the difference between Chinese and Thais? sometimes they are hard to spot.

go to gourmet market in the middle of the day and buy something and look around you in the check out line. almost all Chinese.

 

Personally I hardly ever go to shopping malls and would never sit in one. I dont use Gourmet Market either as the prices are silly. But I can easily tell the difference between independent Chinese tourists and Thais: we have plenty of both here and they speak entirely different languages for a start. Maybe in Hua Hin they all stay in malls all the time.

 

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, joeyg said:

Your comment is profound.  Deep thinking for sure.  if you don't like the post why comment with useless drivel.

This is due to his many deep and meaningful Feminist Groupthink conversations!

[Skallywag]

19 hours ago, joeyg said:

Last year, unofficially was the worse on record for diminishing business profits.  According to numerous numerous acquaintances owners of, restaurants, bars, car rental shops etc etc.  

 

I think the Global economic/recession/depression will usher in an even far worse "high season"  than the one that didn't happen last year.  

When talking "business profits" think that depends on the business.  Pattaya is more about the Chinese and Indian all part of scheduled "tours",  so Hotels, 7-11's, Malls, parasailing, and noodle and fruit street vendors still busy.  The Tiffany show parking lot is full of tour buses every night I have been by no matter what "season" 

 

It is evident that the "type" of tourism has been changing and the businesses that have not changed their focus to accommodate "tour" groups are failing to some extent and will likely continue to do so.  

 

[elgenon]

There will be a high season if Med MJ is legalized for all.

 

Solly, I couldn't help it.

 

I am going to CM for loy Krathong. There is a high season there.

 

People from very cold countries do like to go where it is warmer.

[TGIR]

18 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

yes there will be a high season. but not for so much for business that cater to western tourists. that is over. 

 

Hua Hin is very busy right now.

 

You're kidding, right?  It's been so long since we had a "real" high season I've forgotten when it is/was.

[mpyre]

20 hours ago, joeyg said:

We used to be treated like kings,  hard to find a fit girl,  prices of many things less in our home countries blah, blah, blah.

This is your problem...you are not a King, and the fact you have more wealth than local people doesn't make you look like one either.  To know the price of everything and the value of nothing, is to know nothing.

[1FinickyOne]

You have a long history here, me too. I was in Pattaya in 1974. A dusty main street w/a few bungalows. 

 

Maybe time for you to change. Much of the old Thailand, if that appealed to you, remains in the countryside... Maybe get out of Disneyland gone rotten and experience a different reality... 

[1FinickyOne]

59 minutes ago, TGIR said:

It's been so long since we had a "real" high season I've forgotten when it is/was.

Usually November through February.... 

[kevinmartyn]

Even if Thailand gives visas to Pakistani, Iranian's, Iraq's, Kuwaitis, Nigerians, Somalis. That's not going to attract holiday makers to Thailand since the cost of coming to Thailand has risen over 35%-fact. Even to purchase a new vehicle by foreigners has increased over 26.8% in actual cost! The Thai economy is heading for a 1988 economic crash!

[Deli]

No high season for western tourists due to too many reasons. Possibly busy as usual from 24/12 - 06/01 but that's not a high SEASON, it's 10 days only.

Will become a tough one, if not dealing with Chinese and Indians.

[korkenzieher]

20 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

yes there will be a high season. but not for so much for business that cater to western tourists. that is over. 

 

Hua Hin is very busy right now.

 

I live in Hua Hin - and it sure isn't busy anywhere near me! Friday, BintaBlock, 80 and 94 we're all like ghost towns. Some girls making a bit of noise but precious few people wandering around to hear it. Mu 'hansumness' is quite extraordinary at the moment - you can almost smell the desparation.

[NCC1701A]

Just now, korkenzieher said:

I live in Hua Hin - and it sure isn't busy anywhere near me! Friday, BintaBlock, 80 and 94 we're all like ghost towns. Some girls making a bit of noise but precious few people wandering around to hear it. Mu 'hansumness' is quite extraordinary at the moment - you can almost smell the desparation.

thank you for making my point.

Chinese don't go anywhere near those places and they never will.

they are at 5 star hotels on the beach.

[KittenKong]

46 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

thank you for making my point.

Chinese don't go anywhere near those places and they never will.

they are at 5 star hotels on the beach.

But that just means that some areas are busy with Chinese. In that respect it's like Pattaya: drive past the entrance to Walking Street at 11pm and it is heaving with Chinese, Indians, Arabs etc., but elsewhere it is quieter, with only westerners to be seen.

[emptypockets]

My income is not based on tourism so high season/ low season/noseason is irrelevant to me as it will be for 99% of the members of this forum,  except those sad sacks who rejoice in other people's misfortune so they can float 'told you so'.