British PM to suspend parliament before Brexit, opposition denounces 'coup'

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, VillageIdiot said:

Hear! Hear!

Johnson's Brussels is a warren of bureaucratic redoubts in which lurk a Ministry of Dangerous Balloons, a Ministry of Tiny Condoms, and a Ministry of Flavourless Crisps.

In this theater of the absurd, it never matters whether the stories are true; what matters is that they are ludicrous enough to fly under the radar of credibility and hit the sweet spot where preexisting prejudices are confirmed.

Johnson is not just highly popular as a comic anti-politician but, for many of his compatriots, the embodiment of that patriotic treasure, the English eccentric.

There is a long tradition of embracing the eccentric [though in reality only the upper-class male eccentric] as proof of the English love of liberty and individualism in contrast to the slavishness of the European continentals.

John Stuart Mill associated eccentricity with "strength of character" but Johnson has been able to turn it upside down - his very weakness of character provides for his admirers a patriotically heartening proof that the true English spirit has not been chewed up in the homogenizing maw of a humourless and excessively organized EU.

I could have sworn you were being sarcastic, (And quite amusing into the bargain)  then I see who liked your post. Maybe you didn't make the sarcasm obvious enough. Puzzled.

[Pattaya46]

11 minutes ago, blazes said:

Parliament is prorogued every time the girls and boys take a holiday (at least twice a year?)

Nothing new here.  //

Nothing new?

Really? 

[Mavideol]

Just now, Pattaya46 said:

Nothing new?

Really? 

agree,  it does smell FISHY

[Laughing Gravy]

29 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

What a dirty and disgusting game this man is playing with a helpless Queen 

If you ask her them very nicely they might let Ireland join the Commonwealth.

[beautifulthailand99]

There's a new kid in town welcome to the Cross Party Rebel Alliance . Get this through and Bercow will move heaven and earth to do it - then we are in a no confidence motion and most probably a GE. The Brexit Party / Conservatives can rip each other to shreds at the polls and voila  massive majority 2nd ref / remain 'coalition' in the HoC. Bye Bye Brexit - then despatched this toxic sludge to the seventh level of hell where it belongs.

 

The rebels believe Bercow, who is often accused of trying to thwart Brexit by Eurosceptic MPs, will grant a request for an emergency backbench debate – known as an SO24 – on the the first day parliament returns, 3 September.

An amendable motion could then be voted on in a matter of days. If successful it would pass to the Lords who would be required to sit in emergency sessions over the weekend of 7 and 8 September. It must have received royal assent before parliament is prorogued, or the Commons would have to start again from scratch when parliament returns on 14 October.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/28/cross-party-rebel-alliance-gears-up-for-brexit-clash-with-johnson

[Joe Mcseismic]

5 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Boris Johnson is a very smart man.!???? 

Yes, a real stable genius, just like that Merkin bloke.

[beautifulthailand99]

Don't  forget to sign the don't pro-rogue petition - this one's just for fun though.

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

[Pattaya46]

16 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

UK Democracy ?  ???? prefer not to comment

 

Hi. I am not from UK and have no interest in Brexit or no-Brexit, but what I understand is :

A guy not elected by UK people took the power; wants to impose his personal ideas to govern the country; eliminates democratically elected parliamentarians who could block application of his extreme ideas; …

In other countries we would call that a dictatorship.

[the guest]

Make no mistake UK is leaving the EU. Boris has broken the cycle of "Groundhog Day" !

[Loiner]

 
Hi. I am not from UK and have no interest in Brexit or no-Brexit, but what I understand is :
A guy not elected by UK people took the power; wants to impose his personal ideas to govern the country; eliminates democratically elected parliamentarians who could block application of his extreme ideas; …
In other countries we would call that a dictatorship.

No interest in Brexit, but still feel the need to comment about what you ‘understand’? That’s just it - you don’t understand.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, norfolkc said:

Boris is doing what the majority of the British people voted for to leave the EU that is democracy not the remainer's type where the majority are ignored

The majority of the british people?

 

Don’t think so. Leave won the referendum but a majority of the people did not vote to leave. 

 

And many of those who voted leave did not vote for a no deal exit. 

 

The no deal option faction only achieved ascendency through a vote that involved a minority of the electorate. 

 

That is brexitocracy though. 

[Loiner]

"Remoaner". Stopped being funny, witty and clever, the second time it was ever used.

So Boris got in with his ‘coup’ before they got in with another one of theirs. Now the Remoaners are moaning even more. I’m lovin’ it.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

So Boris got in with his ‘coup’ before they got in with another one of theirs. Now the Remoaners are moaning even more. I’m lovin’ it.

Yes a lot of embarrassed posters on here (just scroll through the Brexit threads) calling him stupid, buffoon and a multitude of names, when really he has shown that he is actually very astute.

[Joe Mcseismic]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

So Boris got in with his ‘coup’ before they got in with another one of theirs. Now the Remoaners are moaning even more. I’m lovin’ it.

.....and there you have it. The utter contempt that half of the country feels for the other half. We seem to have caught the American disease, whereby the opposition must be crushed, humiliated and destroyed. Nothing less will do.

 

Glad that I don't live in the UK, hold any Sterling, or have a pension. Either way, Brexit, or no, it doesn't affect me, though I'm sad at what the country has become.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Yes a lot of embarrassed posters on here (just scroll through the Brexit threads) calling him stupid, buffoon and a multitude of names, when really he has shown that he is actually very astute.

There is evidence of Brexiteers not being aware of the distinction between Parliament prorogation and recess.

[DannyCarlton]

31 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Yes a lot of embarrassed posters on here (just scroll through the Brexit threads) calling him stupid, buffoon and a multitude of names, when really he has shown that he is actually very astute.

He is a buffoon. It's Dominic Cummings, handsomely paid for by the taxpayer, who came up with the plan to bypass parliamentary democracy.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

If you ask her them very nicely they might let Ireland join the Commonwealth.

Nah, the british cancer has been removed from Eire and no one wants anything to do with it again.

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

If you ask her them very nicely they might let Ireland join the Commonwealth.

Much more likely that Scotland and Possibly N.Ireland will leave the UK and, by rote, become republics.

 

She's signed the death warrant for her own kingdom.

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said:

Much more likely that Scotland and Possibly N.Ireland will leave the UK and, by rote, become republics.

 

She's signed the death warrant for her own kingdom.

So not all bad then.

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

So not all bad then.

Oh, it get's worse for the poor cow. I predict a groundswell of public opinion, post Brexit, to get rid of her and her addled kids. The money saved would more than pay for the Brexit divorce bill.

[Nigel Garvie]

19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Nah, the british cancer has been removed from Eire and no one wants anything to do with it again.

I'd rather you had described it as the English cancer, although I realize that the record of the former Scots in NI is nothing to be proud of. We are working hard to get rid of the same malignancy in Scotland also.

[sammieuk1]

Stick Brexit up your ar*e cry the protesters and the best advice given in 3.5 years????

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I agree on the general principle, being a republican, and addled is far too polite. However in this case of proroging parliament she had no choice, refuse and we go back to Cromwell and King Charles. England will remain loyal to the crown whatever, the Tabloids have invested a fortune in ensuring the punters ongoing servility.

Apparently you can bump into the Norwegian King cycling to the supermarket - I could live with that.

But she did have a choice. she was prefectly within her rights to refuse to prerougate parliament on the ground that it would counter parliamentary democracy. She chose not to because she sided with the ruling classes, of which she is head.

I too would be happy to see her cycling to the supermarket........if that supermarket is in Germany, I'm sure that she'd be happier there.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

So Boris got in with his ‘coup’ before they got in with another one of theirs. Now the Remoaners are moaning even more. I’m lovin’ it.

This maybe why this has happened. Possibly a counter-coup, prepared if needed and then triggered against the message that the Corbyn Coalition of Clowns sent two days ago?

[Jai Dee]

A couple of off-topic troll posts have been removed.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

He is a buffoon. It's Dominic Cummings, handsomely paid for by the taxpayer, who came up with the plan to bypass parliamentary democracy.

I never knew you admired Cummings so much. 

[nauseus]

31 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I agree on the general principle, being a republican, and addled is far too polite. However in this case of proroging parliament she had no choice, refuse and we go back to Cromwell and King Charles. England will remain loyal to the crown whatever, the Tabloids have invested a fortune in ensuring the punters ongoing servility.

Apparently you can bump into the Norwegian King cycling to the supermarket - I could live with that.

Off you go to Oslo then.

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I never knew you admired Cummings so much. 

Absolutely, i don't mind saying that he's an evil genius. Without him, the UK would never have voted to leave the EU. Without him, parliament would not have it's democratic rights taken away. Machiavelli lives.

[khunken]

3 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Yes, you will continue to live in your own house, but you are physically moving it out of a gated estate where, though you do pay common fees for upkeep of the facilities, you also get to use those facilities, plus the security of being part of a larger grouping when dealing with tradesmen and those who would seek to disrupt your way of life.  Instead, the entire house is being bodily moved to a new, isolated location, where all your utilities must not only be reconnected, but also bargained for, and new deals with the tradesmen renegotiated as a much smaller consumer.  In addition, there are serious doubts about whether the house can structurally take the strain of being moved, as it is a rather old one and pieces are already falling off of it even before the process has begun.  There are even fears that the entire northern wing will remain firmly planted in the gated estate and be torn away from the rest of the house as it lopsidedly makes the move to its new location.  Of greater concern to many though, is that no serious planning has been done as to how to deal with the fact that the outhouse is physically connected to that of its neighbouring one, and relies on it for much of its foundation strength.  In fact, no serious planning has been done for the entire move.

Just brilliant Ballpoint. Even better than your (May) reluctantly leaving the party to return to her cold flat & take solace in her old photos.

[Nigel Garvie]

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Project Claptrap as well Project Fear. 

Wonderful, a sophisticated, well argued, cleverly reasoned, in depth contribution to the debate. Why am I not surprised.