Comparing Philippines and Thailand

[EricTh]

 

 

[Matzzon]

Yep, and he look like a serious guy. Thanks!

[RedPill]

Yes, he's a very nice and friendly chap from Iceland. I've watched many of his PH vlogs.

 

 

[dimitriv]

 

556,681 views on a video promoting to visit the Philippines and not Thailand.

 

 

[donnacha]

1 hour ago, dimitriv said:

556,681 views on a video promoting to visit the Philippines and not Thailand.

Yes. He does a good job of presenting information that a lot of people are interested in.

Based on his viewing curve, this individual ten-minute video has already earned him between $2K and $3K, and by the end of next year it will have earned him between $4K and $6K.

Most YouTube videos continue to earn money for years but the monthly amount drops over time. Some lucky videos, however, actually gain more momentum and earn more money per month as the years go by. 

That is likely to be the case with this guy's videos because he has been consistently producing around 3 videos per week since he started 3 years ago, totaling over 400 so far, and currently has 336K subscribers. His most popular video has generated 1,178,509 views in just seven months, already earning him between $3.5K and $6K.

Cumulatively, over the past 3 years, his channel has earned him between $130K and $220K, with most of that money coming this year.

All this suggests he will keep hammering away and building his audience, meaning that his older content will keep getting new views and earning money far into the future.

 

[dotpoom]

7 hours ago, donnacha said:

Yes. He does a good job of presenting information that a lot of people are interested in.

Based on his viewing curve, this individual ten-minute video has already earned him between $2K and $3K, and by the end of next year it will have earned him between $4K and $6K.

Most YouTube videos continue to earn money for years but the monthly amount drops over time. Some lucky videos, however, actually gain more momentum and earn more money per month as the years go by. 

That is likely to be the case with this guy's videos because he has been consistently producing around 3 videos per week since he started 3 years ago, totaling over 400 so far, and currently has 336K subscribers. His most popular video has generated 1,178,509 views in just seven months, already earning him between $3.5K and $6K.

Cumulatively, over the past 3 years, his channel has earned him between $130K and $220K, with most of that money coming this year.

All this suggests he will keep hammering away and building his audience, meaning that his older content will keep getting new views and earning money far into the future.

 

Wow!...a load of info there...interesting...cheers.

[dotpoom]

I watched for the first minute or so....until he got to the bit "everything stops at 6.o.clock, amazing to see".

   I have lived in Thailand almost 20 years now....never experienced it...possibly on one one or two occasions in all of my time here...depending on where I happened to be.

[Skallywag]

Vlogging as a job and lifestyle.  Great if you are his age. 

I am at least twice his age, so some places or activities would not be for me. 

Also many popular vloggers never show beggars, mention crime, or any real problems in traveling .

I think they are likely  "priming" the pot with the people in some videos before they start filming also.

Great video though no traveller would be able to see all these things on a 2-4 week holiday, as he said over 2 years travelling to make this one video

Many people watch Youtubers like these because it fulfills their dream of places they cannot afford or have the time to visit.  Great for him and great for the viewers, so win win 

No one reads books anymore, so these videos are the standard in travel guides now I would assume.  

[Thingamabob]

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

[brokenbone]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

I watched for the first minute or so....until he got to the bit "everything stops at 6.o.clock, amazing to see".

   I have lived in Thailand almost 20 years now....never experienced it...possibly on one one or two occasions in all of my time here...depending on where I happened to be.

if you go to bkk, and happen to be on any of the transportation systems bts/etc at 6 pm,

you cant avoid it, even a blind would recognize

everyone freeze, since they cant hear anyone take a single step during the song

[irwinfc]

30 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As for the OP, I'd suggest Vietnam, as that's where all the young western folk, not interested in prostitution are going now. Much better scenery and places to visit than Thailand or the Philippines.

not for those with specific skin color though

[steven100]

12 hours ago, dimitriv said:

 

556,681 views on a video promoting to visit the Philippines and not Thailand.

 

 

so does that mean you are moving 

[yogavnture]

phillipines is a rotten place dont go their rains all the time and the people will steal from you

[Older and Wiser]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

Mugged? Not just robbed? I wonder where you went? I've never been robbed, never mind mugged, in visiting the Philippines regularly since 1982 and living there since 1998. 

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, Older and Wiser said:

Mugged? Not just robbed? I wonder where you went? I've never been robbed, never mind mugged, in visiting the Philippines regularly since 1982 and living there since 1998. 

Same here, they've always been very pleasant people.

[Captain 776]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

EXACTLY........in my humble opinion.......Phils is significantly more dangerous than Thailand and if you think the police dont enforce here.......go to Phils.......they do NOTHING.

There is places in Phils that even Filipinos wont go.......like Mindanao.

Granted this can happen anywhere......including here.......my friend arrived, put his things in hotel room and went out front.......deciding whether to go left or right..........within 30 seconds motorbike ripped his chain off.

Another friend going to airport to fly back to Thailand.........him and his Flip wife........had bags n backpack beside them on sidewalk.......backpack grabbed..........had wallet, all cards, passport......EVERYTHING in backpack......GONE~!!
Places in Manila you can get killed with many watching during daylight........no one saw anything.
 

is that where you want to live?.

 

[donnacha]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Same here, they've always been very pleasant people.

I once had a run-in with a scammer in Angeles but, in retrospect, should have avoided that city anyway. Same goes for Manila, no real reason to put up with it when other places in the Philippines are so much nicer and the proportion of nice people so much higher.

[donnacha]

19 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

EXACTLY........in my humble opinion.......Phils is significantly more dangerous than Thailand and if you think the police dont enforce here.......go to Phils.......they do NOTHING.

There is places in Phils that even Filipinos wont go.......like Mindanao.

Granted this can happen anywhere......including here.......my friend arrived, put his things in hotel room and went out front.......deciding whether to go left or right..........within 30 seconds motorbike ripped his chain off.

Another friend going to airport to fly back to Thailand.........him and his Flip wife........had bags n backpack beside them on sidewalk.......backpack grabbed..........had wallet, all cards, passport......EVERYTHING in backpack......GONE~!!
Places in Manila you can get killed with many watching during daylight........no one saw anything.
 

is that where you want to live?.

Good Lord, are you sure you should be traveling at all?

Obviously a mega-city such as Manila is going to have problems - any city with 14m people is going to have crime reports every day - but there is so much more to the country than Manila.

Writing off Mindanao is particularly hysterical. It is a massive island, with 27 provinces and 33 cities. Only a few provinces in the West are affected by the periodic Islam insurgency, but most European countries will have the same problem soon enough.

I would challenge anyone to find a major city in S.E. Asia that feels as well-managed and safe as Davao while allowing a good lifestyle on very little money. Singapore is obviously more advanced but very few of us could afford to live the life we want there.

In a sense, the problems in the West have a silver lining because they have kept away clueless tourists away Mindanao in general, keeping prices reasonable for those of us who have grasped the concept of distance.

 

[BritManToo]

22 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

Granted this can happen anywhere......including here.......my friend arrived, put his things in hotel room and went out front.......deciding whether to go left or right..........within 30 seconds motorbike ripped his chain off.

Another friend going to airport to fly back to Thailand.........him and his Flip wife........had bags n backpack beside them on sidewalk.......backpack grabbed..........had wallet, all cards, passport......EVERYTHING in backpack......GONE~!!

I learned not to stand by the roadside holding stuff in your hand.

Basic survival for anywhere in the world.

[EricTh]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

 

I thought he said Filipinos are more friendly than Thais?

 

How did they mug you?

[rosst]

I made the move to the Philippines based mainly on the welcoming people and the Christian ethic. 

Visas and immigration convinced me not to stay in Thailand, love to holiday there where I own a house but I live in the Philippines. 

It is not perfect but I am in the provinces away from the big cities and I have a beachfront home with my boat and cheap lifestyle and travel around Asia for holidays. 

Does it for me. 

[donnacha]

41 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I learned not to stand by the roadside holding stuff in your hand.

Basic survival for anywhere in the world.

Part of the problem some people have with Phils is that they are comparing is too directly with Thailand. We forget how extraordinarily safe most of Thailand is for a country in which a relatively high proportion of the people are poor. Some unique Thai cultural sensibility makes most Thais more honest, and that lulls people who have spent a lot of time here into the expectation that other countries will be the same. They really aren't.

To then land in a significantly poorer country in which you actually do have to watch your stuff is a bewildering adjustment that some struggle to make. Of course, once you make that adjustment, and re-engage your common sense circuits, you rarely have any problems.

In fact, in some ways Phils ends up safer than Thailand because it seems to be possible to establish far closer friendships with Filipinos, including the men, than it is with Thais. Having a good circle of friends is, in itself, a form of protection. It is not good to let yourself become isolated anywhere, and I see way too many farangs whose only real daily interaction is with their Thai wife.

I enjoy Chiang Mai but a combination of the haze season and the increasing uncertainty around visas, insurance, exchange rates, medical fees, double pricing, worsening attitudes to Westerners etc have encouraged me to consider other options.

My main sticking point on Phils is that renting an apartment seems to be so far more complicated than Chiang Mai. My secondary sticking point is the food - Phils actually has better food than many countries, but we are spoiled by just how astonishingly good Thailand and Vietnam are.
 

[madmen]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

A very good who friend who lived in our condo went to live there and was back in 2 weeks ! Home invasion , tied up with a knife to his throat. 

[donnacha]

35 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I thought he said Filipinos are more friendly than Thais?

 

How did they mug you?

With big smiles.

 

[dimitriv]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

>> 556,681 views on a video promoting to visit the Philippines and not Thailand.

 

so does that mean you are moving 

 

 

No. I am mainly interested in the influence of social media. I think the influence this boy has on travelling and destinations is for example much bigger than TAT...

 

 

[HeyHeyHey]

PH all the way

 

I agree with the comfort because Philippines is a country of 7641 islands. That makes it incredibly difficult and expensive to create infrastructure. They also get way more difficulties from typhoons etc which destroys what they built.

 

Food? Filipino food is not good, but Thai food is not good in Thailand too. I don't like to eat chemicals and 20 grams of sugar in each meal. Thai food in western countries is great. At the same time if you want western food then PH wins all the way. Much cheaper and better quality. Only Pattaya is on par, due to the competition and demand. But Philippines has it even on small islands.

[RedPill]

17 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Vlogging as a job and lifestyle.  Great if you are his age. 

I am at least twice his age, so some places or activities would not be for me. 

Also many popular vloggers never show beggars, mention crime, or any real problems in traveling .

I think they are likely  "priming" the pot with the people in some videos before they start filming also.

Great video though no traveller would be able to see all these things on a 2-4 week holiday, as he said over 2 years travelling to make this one video

Many people watch Youtubers like these because it fulfills their dream of places they cannot afford or have the time to visit.  Great for him and great for the viewers, so win win 

No one reads books anymore, so these videos are the standard in travel guides now I would assume.  

That's what it is. 

 

The vlogger in OP's video is really a nice chap, you can't really judge him without seeing a bit more about him and what he posted before.

 

You have to see local people around him, when he talks to them, get's info and promotes the PH country. The locals all love him. That says a lot about a person living abroad.

 

Same for this chap, if you just take a few minutes and watch only from the 4-5th minute. 

See how the PH people act when they see him, stopping, saying hello, waving ... 

 

 

He's the nicest guy on Earth ... very positive, the PH people love him 

 

In Thailand, this is all not like this, ... it's all more bitterness, also look at the Farang responses in this thread. 

Everyone a lot more bitter and became way way too serious!

 

This vlogger got spotted by the PH Tourist authorities for the positive things he vlogs about the Philippines, and got 

invited to projects where has a larger platform to continue and spread his word.

 

In Thailand, he would get a fine for working without work permit ... plus all Farangs would jump on his back, too.

 

So nice all the expats here, all so positive ???? 

 

 

 

 

[wisperone]

12 hours ago, donnacha said:

Phils actually has better food than many countries, but we are spoiled by just how astonishingly good Thailand and Vietnam are.

Really?

I guess that depends on your tolerability of poor quality food. To each their own.

[RedPill]

8 minutes ago, wisperone said:

Really?

I guess that depends on your tolerability of poor quality food. To each their own.

Why argue about food? It's very subjective ... it's always each to their own. And the quality of Thai food is also very often very questionable, many times.

 

Thai food is great, but honestly, after a few years, I don't know what take or buy anymore when walking through the markets ... maybe just me personally. 

 

... there are times I'm happy the Pizza Company started to deliver to my house ????

 

I definitely need the balance.

 

 

 

[wisperone]

16 minutes ago, RedPill said:

22 minutes ago, wisperone said:

Really?

I guess that depends on your tolerability of poor quality food. To each their own.

Why argue about food? It's very subjective ... it's always each to their own. And the quality of Thai food is also very often very questionable, many times.

 

Thai food is great, but honestly, after a few years, I don't know what take or buy anymore when walking through the markets ... maybe just me personally. 

 

... there are times I'm happy the Pizza Company started to deliver to my house ????

 

I definitely need the balance.

You contradict yourself.