German expat escapes serious harm as LPG-fuelled Proton catches fire

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German expat escapes serious harm as LPG-fuelled Proton catches fire

By Eakkapop Thongtub

 

Luckily the car suffered only minor damage. Photo: Easkkapop Thongtub
 

PHUKET:-- A German man is thankful his LPG-fuelled Proton car did not suffer serious damage after it caught fire while he was driving from Phuket International Airport to his home in Kata last night (Oct 22).
 

Thalang Police Station were notified that the car was on fire beside Thepkrasattri Rd near the main intersection in Thalang at about 8:55pm.

 

Officers and firefighters arrived to find 53-year-old Moscow-born German national Nikolai Lobati standing beside the car in a state of distress.

Full Story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/german-expat-escapes-serious-harm-as-lpg-fuelled-proton-catches-fire-73341.php#f793odduzP8HCfIz.97

 

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[Scot123]

I really do not understand why anyone would do this to their car (fit LPG) especially westerners. First they must realise it is very dangerous and should be fitted by very skilled qualified specialists and not "I've got a spanner I'm a mechanic", second the hoses have to be special high pressure hoses designed for vehicles, third The engine runs far hotter than originally designed for and lastly the space it takes up in the boot... 

[mauGR1]

17 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

I really do not understand why anyone would do this to their car (fit LPG) especially westerners. First they must realise it is very dangerous and should be fitted by very skilled qualified specialists and not "I've got a spanner I'm a mechanic", second the hoses have to be special high pressure hoses designed for vehicles, third The engine runs far hotter than originally designed for and lastly the space it takes up in the boot... 

Well, the obvious reason is to save on fuel, yet i'm not sure i would trust a Thai mechanic.

I thought last year i read about 2 cases in which passengers of taxis were intoxicated by leaking gas.

[Nyezhov]

6 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, the obvious reason is to save on fuel, yet i'm not sure i would trust a Thai mechanic.

I thought last year i read about 2 cases in which passengers of taxis were intoxicated by leaking gas.

Ive been in a leaker twice over the past few years. The first time it was a short day ride so no problem, the other which was a long night ride, which sucked, because I bailed in a crappy area and had to wait for a Grab for a while.

[Scot123]

7 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Well, the obvious reason is to save on fuel, yet i'm not sure i would trust a Thai mechanic.

I thought last year i read about 2 cases in which passengers of taxis were intoxicated by leaking gas.

Yes a it happens a lot as well as going up in flames. I'm very surprised so few reports make it to TV. 

[mauGR1]

3 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Ive been in a leaker twice over the past few years. The first time it was a short day ride so no problem, the other which was a long night ride, which sucked, because I bailed in a crappy area and had to wait for a Grab for a while.

Next time i'll go downtown, i'll remember to open the window ????

[stevenl]

32 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Yes a it happens a lot as well as going up in flames. I'm very surprised so few reports make it to TV. 

It happens, but not a lot.

[elliss]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

It happens, but not a lot.

 

          Brexit , that's all  expats are interested in .

         German expats , just don't sound rite to me .

         LPG,  no thanks ..

 

 

          

Edited October 23, 2019 by elliss
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[ChrisY1]

Retro fitting LPG into vehicles in Thailand is dodgy at best....fitting it into a Proton is madness:))

[AhFarangJa]

I have always carried an extinguisher in any vehicle I have owned. 

 Never had to use it, but happy it is to hand.

Edited October 24, 2019 by AhFarangJa

[Tropposurfer]

LPG bloody dangerous if not fitted n maintained carefully.

has anyone ever seen one of the LPG  bottles explode!! I have and the energy expended is tremendous. I’ve seen boats completely disintegrated by these.

 

[eezergood]

13 hours ago, elliss said:

 

          Brexit , that's all  expats are interested in .

         German expats , just don't sound rite to me .

         LPG,  no thanks ..

 

 

          

say what?

[Old Croc]

In the OP it was stated it was an electrical fire. If it had involved the gas lines I would've expected greater damage?

[ujayujay]

LPG, NGV or what else are not more dangerous than Gasoline or Diesel!

[Old Croc]

I'm no expert, but is this the right way to quench an electrical or gas fire?

 

Here is a picture of the "distressed" owner standing next to his car. The damage has been pixelated out to avoid offending some viewers 

[Moonlover]

22 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

I'm no expert, but is this the right way to quench an electrical or gas fire?

 

Here is a picture of the "distressed" owner standing next to his car. The damage has been pixelated out to avoid offending some viewers 

Well, as you, by your own admission,  are 'no expert' I would suggest that the man in the firefighter's suit would know a lot more than you do.

 

The bottom line is, 'did it work'? Apparently yes.

[Old Croc]

2 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Well, as you, by your own admission,  are 'no expert' I would suggest that the man in the firefighter's suit would know a lot more than you do.

 

The bottom line is, 'did it work'? Apparently yes.

So, you're also not an expert.

[Moonlover]

33 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

36 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Well, as you, by your own admission,  are 'no expert' I would suggest that the man in the firefighter's suit would know a lot more than you do.

 

The bottom line is, 'did it work'? Apparently yes.

 

33 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

So, you're also not an expert.

Firefighting was compulsory training for all technicians in the RAF, so I do know quite a bit about it.

 

This was judged to be an electrical fire, not gas. Whilst one would not use water on a high voltage electrical fire until the circuit had been isolated, on a 12v vehicle system it is quite acceptable.

 

If it had been a gas fire CO² or foam would be a better option.

 

Anything to add?

 

 

[Old Croc]

25 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

Firefighting was compulsory training for all technicians in the RAF, so I do know quite a bit about it.

 

This was judged to be an electrical fire, not gas. Whilst one would not use water on a high voltage electrical fire until the circuit had been isolated, on a 12v vehicle system it is quite acceptable.

 

If it had been a gas fire CO² or foam would be a better option.

 

Anything to add?

 

 

That's a better answer to my query than clothes maketh the man.

This is Thailand you know.

[Old Croc]

50 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

 

Firefighting was compulsory training for all technicians in the RAF, so I do know quite a bit about it.

 

This was judged to be an electrical fire, not gas. Whilst one would not use water on a high voltage electrical fire until the circuit had been isolated, on a 12v vehicle system it is quite acceptable.

 

If it had been a gas fire CO² or foam would be a better option.

 

Anything to add?

 

 

That's a better answer to my query than clothes maketh the man.

This is Thailand you know.

Here's another vehicle fire, it seems this time they used a foam mixture.

 

Any comment from the RAF expert?

Edited October 24, 2019 by Old Croc

[Moonlover]

31 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Here's another vehicle fire, it seems this time they used a foam mixture.

 

Any comment from the RAF expert?

Yep. It looks like it was a fuel fire. Foam is the correct media for this.

 

Foam is actually the best media to use on vehicles because of the fuel fire risk. However it's not always readily available, so for a small fire, water is a suitable alternative.

 

Foam is actually nothing more than water with a foaming agent added to create a smothering effect.

Edited October 24, 2019 by Moonlover

[Assurancetourix]

3 hours ago, Old Croc said:

I'm no expert, but is this the right way to quench an electrical or gas fire?

 

If you ask the question it's because you know that you do not put out an electric fire or gas with water;
it should be said to all those truck drivers of gas cylinders who usually have two sprinklers sprayed on the back of their vehicles.
They can remove them, it serves only to unnecessarily burden their trucks. 

[Moonlover]

I'll come in with one last comment on this incident. If you do happen to suspect that you have an engine fire. be very cautious when opening the bonnet. It can very easily cause a flare up resulting in injury.

 

If, by chance a CO² extinguisher is available, leave the bonnet closed and fire it through the radiator grill.