Thai man found electrocuted lying on his phone chargers

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Thai man found electrocuted lying on his phone chargers

 

Picture: Thai Rath

 

Police in Sri Racha were called after a friend found her work colleague dead in bed lying on his phone chargers. 

 

Thirty five year old Kanchamaiporn had been electrocuted. 

 

He was found lying on chargers connected to two phones.

 

Chutima, 33, said he had not shown up for work and she called three or four times with no answer  at the apartment in Nong Kham sub-district. She asked the superintendent to open up and found her friend. 

 

He was found late last night and had been dead at least three hours. There were no other suspicious circumstances. 

 

The victim was from Sakon Nakhon and was an employee of Thai Fountain of Life, an automotive company in Sri Racha on Thailand's eastern seaboard.  

 

Source: Thai Rath

 

 

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[pixelaoffy]

Ah the obsession with phones in Thailand.  Even treat them as lovers in bed ( with a power source ) even more feeling 

[canuckamuck]

More to do with sleeping on the floor on a mat. Harder to sleep in your charger when your on a bed.

[ianezy0]

No one to be charged for his demise as he charged hisself.

R.I.P.

[steven100]

shocking accident. 

RIP 

[OneMoreFarang]

Let me guess: It was one of this cheap aftermarket chargers or if it was an original charger then likely it was damaged.

 

If people buy something for 50B then they should not be surprised to get 50B quality.

 

[NanLaew]

21 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Ah the obsession with phones in Thailand.  Even treat them as lovers in bed ( with a power source ) even more feeling 

Ah yes... the curiously Thai-only 'obsession' of using your smartphone in bed while it is plugged into the charger.

 

or,

 

The non-Thai obsession with health and safety that makes use of a charging smart phone in bed and any subsequent risk of death by electrocution totally and absolutely impossible.

 

Take your pick.

[RichardColeman]

My bet would be he urinated in his sleep

[4MyEgo]

That is why we have a policy at home, kids, no mobiles to be charged in the bedrooms, always in the living room where we can see them being charged.

 

One hour in the evening to do your stuff on the mobile in your room, and they go back in the same spot you charge them at 9pm.

 

Weekends 1 hour during the day, 2 hours in the evening, same spot for charging, if you ever charge your phone in the bedroom, you won't be using it for a week, and no mobiles in the bathroom.

 

Yes sir, no sir, 3 bags full sir !

 

Tragic accident, education does help, RIP

Edited January 21, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[Anotify]

Phone charger is 4, 9, 12 volts output. His extention( 220.v ) may have been faulty. 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, Anotify said:

Phone charger is 4, 9, 12 volts output. His extention( 220.v ) may have been faulty. 

There is a fault condition with many cheapo chargers that can lead to dangerous voltages being present at the phone charger output,they are fine until the fault occurs.

[metempsychotic]

3 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

More to do with sleeping on the floor on a mat. Harder to sleep in your charger when your on a bed.

My charge cables run through my headboard and my tablet charges beside me as I sleep. Sometimes it makes it to the bedside table, but if I fall asleep reading it doesn't.

[metempsychotic]

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Ah yes... the curiously Thai-only 'obsession' of using your smartphone in bed while it is plugged into the charger.

 

or,

 

The non-Thai obsession with health and safety that makes use of a charging smart phone in bed and any subsequent risk of death by electrocution totally and absolutely impossible.

 

Take your pick.

What nonsense, a proper charger and cable pushing a low voltage, low amp current are not dangerous in the least.

 

I read ebooks in bed and charge my tablet at night as I sleep.

 

You have a bedside reading lamp? Living on the edge indeed.

[Leaver]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let me guess: It was one of this cheap aftermarket chargers or if it was an original charger then likely it was damaged.

 

If people buy something for 50B then they should not be surprised to get 50B quality.

 

 

Let's not forget cheap house wiring.

 

No earth pins, probably no circuit breakers, and earth leak breaker. 

[Autonuaq]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let me guess: It was one of this cheap aftermarket chargers or if it was an original charger then likely it was damaged.

 

If people buy something for 50B then they should not be surprised to get 50B quality.

 

What you claim that has totally nothing to do with cheap after market chargers.

 

Any device can fail. Orgininal, OEM or after market the all fail. The changes that a device fails is pending on many things.

 

First the good and safe design has been cut down from the original design to a comemercial design, this makes it less safer. As well a part can fail. As well using a device beyond the design specification also can cause problems 

 

Electricity is nick named the silent killer always waiting for a change to hit. You not see it comning or feel it comning. Only when is it too late.

 

Do not forget most of us grew up with devices and enviroment that was much unsafer then the current and in the west many still die due to electricity only not get the news coverage as we have in countries like Thailand.

 

With the new electric cars and motor bikes this rate will icnrease faster. Caused by the unpresictable problems that vatteries cause when used by uncontrolled chemical reaction that cause fire or by vehicles that have had experienced bumps and the battery got deformated.

 

Accident with electrcit cars, motorbike and so on cause many extra safety problems due to the chemical reactions that take place in the battery and a few people died due to it that could normally survived that kind accident.

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by Autonuaq

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, Autonuaq said:

What you claim that has totally nothing to do with cheap after market chargers.

 

Any device can fail. Orgininal, OEM or after market the all fail. The changes that a device fails is pending on many things.

 

First the good and safe design has been cut down from the original design to a comemercial design, this makes it less safer. As well a part can fail. As well using a device beyond the design specification also can cause problems 

 

Electricity is nick named the silent killer always waiting for a change to hit. You not see it comning or feel it comning. Only when is it too late.

 

Do not forget most of us grew up with devices and enviroment that was much unsafer then the current and in the west many still die due to electricity only not get the news coverage as we have in countries like Thailand

Many cheap after market chargers are designed and manufactured cheap. In so called developed countries nobody would be allowed to sell them but in Thailand nobody cares.

Obviously a brand name charger will also fail if you hit it often enough with a hammer. But with a cheap charger it is much more likely that even a small defect will expose deadly mains power.

 

 

[brianthainess]

My wife had a very lucky escape, mice had exposed a small amount of wire on an extension lead, it wrapped around her toe as she was bringing it to me, her mum realized what had happened jumped up and pulled the plug, a second more and it would have been all over ???? horrifying.

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, Anotify said:

Phone charger is 4, 9, 12 volts output. His extention( 220.v ) may have been faulty. 

Your dead right . If your electricity incoming mains board is fitted with a Residual Earth Leakage Trip ( RELT) if would be vertically impossible to get electrocuted.

In England for the past 50 years every new home built the building regulations sTate that the house be fitted with this device. It's a must. 

we are told to wear a safety helmet when riding a motorbike. We are told to buckle up with a seat belt when driving a car all for ones own safety but nothing is said about safety in relations to e!electricity in one's home. I advise people who haven't got this device fitted on the incoming  electricity supply board to get one fitted.

[Penicillin]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

My wife had a very lucky escape, mice had exposed a small amount of wire on an extension lead, it wrapped around her toe as she was bringing it to me, her mum realized what had happened jumped up and pulled the plug, a second more and it would have been all over ???? horrifying.

If you had fed your mice a proper diet they wouldn’t be chewing on your phone cord.  

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Percy P said:

Your dead right . If your electricity incoming mains board is fitted with a Residual Earth Leakage Trip ( RELT) if would be vertically impossible to get electrocuted.

In England for the past 50 years every new home built the building regulations sTate that the house be fitted with this device. It's a must. 

we are told to wear a safety helmet when riding a motorbike. We are told to buckle up with a seat belt when driving a car all for ones own safety but nothing is said about safety in relations to e!electricity in one's home. I advise people who haven't got this device fitted on the incoming  electricity supply board to get one fitted.

 

That works great for line to ground/earth faults.  But not so well if you touch 2 line wires at the same time.  It can't tell if the load across the wires is a toaster, or a human being. 

 

Don't get me wrong, GFI (as it's called in the USA) or RCBO or...  is an absolute must to be safe.  But not a 100% guaranty that you won't be electrocuted by a defective charger.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device

 

Edit:  I hope they do a little more investigating...  Otherwise, you can add "wrap a wire around him and make it look like a defective charger" to the list of ways to get away with murdering someone in Thailand.  Right up there with "throw him over a low balcony and make it look like he fell or jumped", and "hang him in his room and make it look like he hung himself".

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by impulse

[Percy P]

12 hours ago, steven100 said:

shocking accident. 

RIP 

An accident that would never have happened if the electric incoming fuse board was fitted with a Resilient Earth Leakage Trip

( R E L T) it would virtually be impossible to get electrocuted.

Its a must that ever building be fitted with one.

[Percy P]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That works great for line to ground/earth faults.  But not so well if you touch 2 line wires at the same time.  It can't tell if the load across the wires is a toaster, or a human being. 

 

Don't get me wrong, GFI (as it's called in the USA) or RCBO or...  is an absolute must to be safe.  But not a 100% guaranty that you won't be electrocuted by a defective charger.  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device

 

Edit:  I hope they do a little more investigating...  Otherwise, you can add "wrap a wire around him and make it look like a defective charger" to the list of ways to get away with murdering someone in Thailand.  Right up there with "throw him over a low balcony and make it look like he fell or jumped", and "hang him in his room and make it look like he hung himself".

 

Two wires touching each other is a short circuit and the short circuit breaker will trip. If it is a wired fuse and he has.a mail or a wire that can carry the short circuit then he's toast.

[impulse]

16 minutes ago, Percy P said:

Two wires touching each other is a short circuit and the short circuit breaker will trip. If it is a wired fuse and he has.a mail or a wire that can carry the short circuit then he's toast.

 

Fuses and breakers do absolutely nothing to protect you if you hold one wire in each hand.  It only takes a few tens of milli amps to cause cardiac arrest, and fuses and breakers pop at many amps.  Fuses and breakers protect wires from getting too hot and bursting into flame if you have a short circuit.  That's different from having a path for electricity to flow across your heart.  Like one wire in each hand.  Or holding one wire and stepping on another in bare feet.  As I indicated, the fuse can't tell if it's you or a toaster.

 

As long as there's no path to ground/earth, the RCBO/GFI can't protect you, either.  It's looking for milli-amps leaking to ground.  It can't tell whether the juice flowing through the line wires are flowing through a body, or through an intended load- like a toaster.  They will protect you if you touch one live wire while standing in a puddle of water or touching something that's grounded.  That's why they're required in all outdoor and wet locations  (and a good idea elsewhere, too)

 

Old electrician's trick...  I always have one hand in my back pocket when I'm rooting around in a live junction box or breaker panel.  That way, there's no path through my torso.  I've melted screwdrivers, but never been zapped.  Well, almost never...

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by impulse

[edwardandtubs]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let me guess: It was one of this cheap aftermarket chargers or if it was an original charger then likely it was damaged.

 

If people buy something for 50B then they should not be surprised to get 50B quality.

 

Just ignore the fact that your "premium" charger was made in the same factory with the same materials.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Just ignore the fact that your "premium" charger was made in the same factory with the same materials.

 

Not necessarily.  A premium charger will meet UL, CSA or other Certification Test lab requirements, so the design is sound.  And it will generally be manufactured with some oversight by the company whose name is stamped on it.  To protect their name and reduce liability, they'll do the appropriate testing to make sure they don't get sued.

 

A cheap charger may be a copy of an approved design, or it may be a <deleted> design engineered to take $0.25 out of the cost by skimping on critical elements.  Sadly, they often come out with bogus UL, CSA, ETL, or other certifying stamp.  Or, my favorite, an ROHs stamp, which has to do with recycling and not anything to do with safety.

 

[Enki]

11 hours ago, Leaver said:

No earth pins, probably no circuit breakers, and earth leak breaker. 

A house always has a circuit breaker, but in Thai houses it is often just one at the point where power comes into the house ... my flat in Germany has 16 ... 

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, edwardandtubs said:

Just ignore the fact that your "premium" charger was made in the same factory with the same materials.

Just watch the video which I posted above before you present your not existing knowledge. You're welcome.

 

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, metempsychotic said:

You have a bedside reading lamp? Living on the edge indeed.

It isn't in bed with me, what are you doing with yours?

 

My phone never, ever, goes into the bedroom, nor does my Mrs' phone. why on earth would it?

Edited January 22, 2020 by jacko45k

[RocketDog]

18 hours ago, Anotify said:

Phone charger is 4, 9, 12 volts output. His extention( 220.v ) may have been faulty. 

Output is the same as input when a cheap charger with no protection circuits is used. 

220V will always ring your bell. 

 

Since OEM  chargers are so generally counterfeited in Asia and even on Ebay and Amazon I gave up and only buy from one company now. Check out Anker Thailand shop on Lazada. I've been buying from them for years and never been disappointed. 

 

No, I don't get a kickback from Anker. I support their products because as an electronic engineer I know them to be good designs. People don't need to die from cheap chargers. 

[metempsychotic]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

It isn't in bed with me, what are you doing with yours?

 

My phone never, ever, goes into the bedroom, nor does my Mrs' phone. why on earth would it?

I have clearly indicated I read in bed, and you can't read an ebook without a tablet or kindle or similar.

 

My phone is in the lounge charging at night but that is only because I don't wish to be woken up with a call in the. Ight.