Trump suspends all travel from Europe to the United States to fight coronavirus

[URMySunshine]

9 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

China testing 200,000 people a day, South Korea testing 15,000 people a day and the most aggressive & comprehensive effort in the USA is testing "barely" 5,000 people a day..... because no available test kits ..... but at the beginning of this mess, Trump did say they had millions in inventory

Nearly 2 months to plan - gross dereliction in the duty of the Office of The President to protect and serve. Time for GOP to pull the plug and leave the Trump family takeover swinging in the wind. History will record him as the worst President in US history by far. 

 

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/03/11/report-nebraska-coach-hospitalized-after-appearing-extremely-ill-team-quarantined/

Edited March 12, 2020 by URMySunshine

[Mavideol]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

took the dramatic step in a somber Oval Office speech as he battles to address the health and economic shocks to Americans

why did mixed the "tremendous" economy is doing "fantastic" comment on an announcement about travel restrictions... he didn't look well at all and indeed he tried to put up the "compassion" face/attitude

[wwest5829]

8 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Speech written by StevenMiller as reported by the media. Sniping at Europe for failing to stop travel from China and taking about his marvelous 3 years of QE boost to the economy are all in order. Wonder what will his speech like without the script and will he still be shaking hands. 

Agreed. I do give him credit for reading the speech without adding his usual ad libs which ...

[candide]

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

It took 3 months to get it declared a pandemic which was June. Obama admin declared it a national emergency in October. Those are the actual facts. You have no idea if this will be better or worse than the swine flu, but most certainly the media and the lefts reaction are exponentially worse

Right. Declared pandemic by the WHO in june 2009 only (that's the WHO which decides if there is a pandemic). Obama started acting in anticipation 3 months before in April by declaring a public health emergency and releasing funds to fight the swine flu. That's the facts.

"U.S. Declares Public Health Emergency Over Swine Flu

By Donald G. McNeil Jr.

April 26, 2009"

https://www.nytimes.com/

Edited March 12, 2020 by candide

[Isaan sailor]

Bear market?  Time to go shopping US stocks.  Bought some XOM two days ago at 10-year low, pays 8% now.  Will buy more if Wuhan fear selling intensifies.

[Chiphigh]

30 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

The only snowflakes I see at the moment are Trumpers lashing out as they begin to count of the cost of the lies and deflections of their CiC. America and the world deserves better. 

Really? Is that the best you can come up with? Is this the level of the irrational leftists reaction? 

 

Pretending to have a clue about this outbreak and how it should be handled just to try and bash the man who you obviously hate. Very amateur. 

[amykat]

8 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

No dude, its about hate and rage. You see it here. You may be a non hater yourself, but that doesnt change the fact that many of the folks cheering for the virus to topple Trump are haters that are actively acting against the interests of the country.

 

 

 

I would flip your paragraph around ....many Trump supporters are about hate and rage ...many folks cheering to support Trump as the President are haters (of many various things ....make list here)  and are actively acting against the interests of the country.

 

That makes more sense!  You’re welcome ????.

[Chiphigh]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Right. Declared pandemic by the WHO in june 2011 only (that's the WHO which decides if there is a pandemic). Obama started acting in anticipation 3 months before in April by declaring a national health emergency and releasing funds to fight the swine flu. That's the facts.

12,000 deaths.

 

Much less than the normal flu season average.

 

Trump began restricted travel long before it was declared a pandemic. 

 

Those are the facts.

 

And yet this one is the end of days, to feed a false narrative. Get over the emotional irrational outrage. 

[Chiphigh]

3 minutes ago, amykat said:

I would flip your paragraph around ....many Trump supporters are about hate and rage ...many folks cheering to support Trump as the President are haters (of many various things ....make list here)  and are actively acting against the interests of the country.

 

That makes more sense!  You’re welcome ????.

That is the standard of the left, they assume the ability to read minds and hearts without a shred of reality based on their opinions 

[Opl]

6 minutes ago, amykat said:

I would flip your paragraph around ....many Trump supporters are about hate and rage ...many folks cheering to support Trump as the President are haters (of many various things ....make list here)  and are actively acting against the interests of the country.

 

That makes more sense!  You’re welcome ????.

Scholars who study modern disinformation tactics have identified this approach as “censorship through noise.” (Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist, has described the strategy in blunter terms: “Flood the zone with <deleted>.”)

[bkk6060]

US futures down over 1,000.

I am going to be buying today.

It may go lower, but come back in 2 years and see how much it will have gone up.

Good luck to all investors.

[Nyezhov]

13 minutes ago, amykat said:

make list here

You couldnt list one.

[Tounge Thaied]

Does this include U.S. citizens simply returning from Europe/Eastern Europe?

[Nyezhov]

39 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

There are concrete reasons for opposing The Donald.

And other than nebulous rhetoric, you have given us none.

[digibum]

37 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Your opinion of what a functioning health system is means nothing. I am an American and I have never had a problem with my health care, but then I work for a living and don't expect to be given things at every turn to satisfy some Europeans version of what health care is and I especially don't want to pay taxes like a European. 

 

I don't know how old you are or what kind of healthcare you had access to, but being a GenX'er, I saw healthcare decline drastically in my lifetime. 

 

Back when I was young, I was on my father's healthcare plan.  I never remember any worries about seeing a doctor or costs or anything.  Everything was always taken care of.  Of course, he was a Boomer and worked for the same company his whole life.  They're one of the largest companies in the world with great pension plans, unions, and benefits. 

 

Even for a few years when I got a job and was working, healthcare seemed so simple.  $10 or $25 co-pay, everything covered. 

 

But in the last 10 or 15 years, it's just been a disaster.  Go in for an endoscopy, a covered procedure, and end up getting $3,000+ in bills from the doctor that insurance wouldn't cover. 

 

I went in to a lab to get some blood work done that my doctor ordered and the woman pulling the blood asked me if I had insurance.  I said I did and she said, "Oh good.  If you didn't, this would cost you about $2,000." 

 

Even dental has turned into a money grubbing, used car salesman-like profession.  Every year in November, my dentist's office would call me to tell me how much of my insurance I hadn't spent this year and wanted to schedule an appointment so they could figure out a way to max out my insurance claims. 

 

Every visit they were selling some new BS that wasn't covered by insurance.  Once it was invisilign, then it was some sort of coating to put on your teeth, then it was veneers, etc, etc. 

 

It was disgusting because the dentist's office was completely open with just small walls separating each patient so you could hear the dentist going from room to room pitching the same BS stuff and using the same lines, "Well, if you don't get the invisilign, you get dental decay from food caught in your crooked teeth and that could lead to heart disease."  <deleted>?!?! 

 

I'm sorry but if I can move to Thailand and get my blood work done for $100 and it costs $2,000 in the US, there's something seriously wrong with the healthcare system. 

 

It's not mooches looking for a handout, man.  It's the system.  It's gotten horrific to deal with. 

 

The saddest stories aren't even from the people without insurance.  It's the people who get whacked with bills even though they have insurance. 

 

Like a story I was reading recently (sorry, I forget the source) where someone was ill and had to be taken to the hospital.  So instead of taking an ambulance and ending up at an out of network hospital they took themselves to an in-network hospital to save money.  But one of the treating doctors was not in-network so they got slammed with a bunch of bills to cover the doctor's costs. 

 

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

US futures down over 1,000.

I am going to be buying today.

It may go lower, but come back in 2 years and see how much it will have gone up.

Good luck to all investors.

This might be good for long term investors, but for people retiring this year it is a disaster. 

 

[amykat]

10 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

You couldnt list one.

That was weak dude!!! Have a nice day!!

[sqwakvfr]

VP Pence was just on Fox News and he said this:  The main reason for the European Continent Travel ban is the fact that Italy went from 500 cases to over 10,000 in less than a week.  Wow!

 

Also, since the EU is pretty much without borders I kind of understand the reason for this.  Many will disagree with it.  Like him or  hate him(know many on TVF do) at least he made dramatic or in some minds a drastic decision.  

We will see what the consequences will be.  It appears Wall Street was not impressed.  My portfolio is hurting.   

 

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

9 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Love the US healthcare system, 1600 dollars for a corona virus test.

You are so <deleted> ! 555

 

Supposedly, the U.S. insurance industry told Trump the other day that they would waive co-pays/deductibles at least for CV testing for Americans with health insurance. But I haven't heard peepers about what's supposed to happen for the many Americans who, thanks to Trump, DON'T have any health insurance whatsoever.

I wonder how much Tom Hanks and his missus paid for their fast-tracked tests in Australia?

[bkk6060]

56 minutes ago, sirineou said:

This might be good for long term investors, but for people retiring this year it is a disaster. 

 

I agree.

Sadly, they may have to work several more years to make up for it.

[Tropposurfer]

But just the other day after absolutely confirming he spent hours and hours on Airforce One with a carrier the President (the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet) saw no need to be tested for the virus .... cause he said he felt okay!?!? How many others on the plane were tested? My guess is f... all.

Also The D made comments about how the world economies will somehow negate Covid19. "good things are happening, going to happen, the consumer bla bal bla...." (paraphrase). What a load of complete delusional incoherent dribble !

All you Yanks ou there in TV land; Folks you really have a corker of a President and a corker of a Nation. About as inspiring and edifying as the Australian government. 

[overherebc]

This is not a nice virus for those who are old and have health problems, ie it will possibly/likely kill them.

Just reading through most of the posts it seems that that many have no feelings for that section of those affected. It seems to be a platform for 'let's win political points and try to show how clever I am on what should be done' or I see it as a good way to invest in whatever and I'll be richer than you at the end.

This virus might mutate and change the age bracket it affects most.

Just imagine if it 'decides' and viruse do, to start killing people regardless of age or weath or how big your investments are.

Who cares what a president did 8 years ago, right or wrong, this is now.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by overherebc

[URMySunshine]

18 minutes ago, overherebc said:

This is not a nice virus for those who are old and have health problems, ie it will possibly/likely kill them.

Just reading through most of the posts it seems that that many have no feelings for that section of those affected. It seems to be a platform for 'let's win political points and try to show how clever I am on what should be done' or I see it as a good way to invest in whatever and I'll be richer than you at the end.

This virus might mutate and change the age bracket it affects most.

Just imagine if it 'decides' and viruse do, to start killing people regardless of age or weath or how big your investments are.

Who cares what a president did 8 years ago, right or wrong, this is now.

 

 

No need to worry this guy's got it covered. 

 

 

[jcsmith]

I find it ironic that the same people who viewed the small number of deaths that have resulted from islamic terrorism in the United States as justification to try to ban an entire religion from entering the country are now trying to downplay the danger of the corona virus. 

[wabothai]

10 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

No they will never understand it.

"Why should I pay for someone else's hospital bills? " (Redneck accent)

Bett you a lot of Americans stay away from the mirror these days.

[Logosone]

Trump: "We have been in close contact with our allies"

 

EU spokesman: "The European Union disapproves of the fact that the U.S. decision to impose a travel ban was taken unilaterally and without consultation"

 

One of the two is lying. Who could it be?

[wabothai]

9 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

well thats a difference in price in just a few minutes.

 

Whats your point by the way? 

They are free in NY. You germans are getting ripped off.

Oh....just give it a rest.

 

[overherebc]

38 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

No need to worry this guy's got it covered. 

 

 

The next person who has never made a mistake will be the first.

[Logosone]

We will ban all travel to and from Europe, except the UK where co-incidentally I own three golf courses.

 

 

[URMySunshine]

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

The next person who has never made a mistake will be the first.

It's not a mistake it is wilfully ignoring some of the world's most expert advice and intelligence from wise folk whose job is to inform and educate. And destroying a pandemic preparedness unit whose job was to prepare and coordinate a smart response should the worse happens. It just has.